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Swanman 11-27-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9139790)
The thread is labeled as a spoiler, I don't think you need the tags.

Jon is likely dead. But, if he's going to be Azor Ahai reborn, he needs to be reborn.

Griff could be an imposter, but Varys believes him to be real. He told Kevan that he was real before killing him, no need to lie to someone you're about to kill. Either Varys (who was responsible for replacing him before Gregor got there) is being fooled, or he's really Aegon.

No one really dies for good in their own POV chapter so far in the series, so I expect he will be back in some form.

MagicHef 11-27-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 9139527)
Tyrion is another possibility.

Huh. Dany's mom died in labor. If the theory about Jon is true, his mom died in labor. Tyrion's mom died in labor.

Setsuna 11-27-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poz (Post 9139696)
Next guy that gets the axe will be Pioli. :thumb:
This is the first season of GoT for our company. We've worked on Borgias, Nikita, Titanic and also films Breaking Dawn, Abe Lincoln Vampire Slayer, Resident Evil and I'm now on the latest Robert Redford flick, All Is Lost. We're also getting Robocop.
Busy times.

That baby in Breaking Dawn was absolute horrid. Hope you had nothing to do with that.

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9156870)
Huh. Dany's mom died in labor. If the theory about Jon is true, his mom died in labor. Tyrion's mom died in labor.

Tyrion would be the worst one to be a head. People need to get that out of their heads. He will never be anything more than he is now. Maybe he'll be the only one to inherit CR when Jamie kills Cersei. The thirds is probably Aegon or some dark horse like Darkstar or something.

MagicHef 11-27-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9157645)
Tyrion would be the worst one to be a head. People need to get that out of their heads. He will never be anything more than he is now. Maybe he'll be the only one to inherit CR when Jamie kills Cersei. The thirds is probably Aegon or some dark horse like Darkstar or something.

There are a lot of possibilities.

There is a theory (which I don't really believe) that Tyrion is not really Tywin's son, but Aery's. He is described as having hair so light blond it's almost white, and he is shown to have a morbid fascination with dragons, much like every Targaryen ever. Also, Tywin does proclaim that Tyrion is not his son several times, though it seems that this is not meant to be taken literally.

The Poz 11-27-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9157645)
That baby in Breaking Dawn was absolute horrid. Hope you had nothing to do with that.

How would you know :p

No, our company had nothing to do with the baby or any of the face replacements. It did look awful.

Hawk 11-28-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9158345)
There are a lot of possibilities.

There is a theory (which I don't really believe) that Tyrion is not really Tywin's son, but Aery's. He is described as having hair so light blond it's almost white, and he is shown to have a morbid fascination with dragons, much like every Targaryen ever. Also, Tywin does proclaim that Tyrion is not his son several times, though it seems that this is not meant to be taken literally.

Early in ADWD as he's on the road with Ilyrio to go see Dany, Tyrion has a dream that he is in a battle fighting alongside Barristan the Bold with dragons flying over head, and in the dream he has "two heads, neither of which has a nose..."

Made me wonder if it was a clue that he could somehow be one of the heads of the dragon since dragons don't have a nose either. Or it could be more misdirection from GRRM (which seems likely since other parts of the dream didn't make much sense).

duncan_idaho 11-28-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9131660)
I might honestly consider getting HBO just for the months this is on.

Storm of Swords adapted to HBO is going to be absolutely incredible and I want to see the real-time reactions of the uninitiated so badly.

I saw this this weekend. My brother-in-law just started reading them a month or so ago. He's not a big reader (it took him 3 months to read Keith Richards' auto-biography, and he's a huge Stones fan) and just got into the meaty parts of SoS.

We were talking about the series, and he mentioned that Catelyn and Robb were on their way to see those one guys about that one thing. Then started reading. So I made sure to stay within viewing distance of him while he was reading.

It was pretty awesome.

Pants 11-28-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9158952)
I saw this this weekend. My brother-in-law just started reading them a month or so ago. He's not a big reader (it took him 3 months to read Keith Richards' auto-biography, and he's a huge Stones fan) and just got into the meaty parts of SoS.

We were talking about the series, and he mentioned that Catelyn and Robb were on their way to see those one guys about that one thing. Then started reading. So I made sure to stay within viewing distance of him while he was reading.

It was pretty awesome.


That back and forth sequence between Arya's and Sandor's POV chapters leading up to the wedding was some of the most traumatizing reading I have ever experienced.

Setsuna 11-28-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9158345)
There are a lot of possibilities.

There is a theory (which I don't really believe) that Tyrion is not really Tywin's son, but Aery's. He is described as having hair so light blond it's almost white, and he is shown to have a morbid fascination with dragons, much like every Targaryen ever. Also, Tywin does proclaim that Tyrion is not his son several times, though it seems that this is not meant to be taken literally.

I hear you, I do. But think about Tywin for a moment. Do you really think a man such as him would tolerate someone else's son, especially a lunatic like Aerys, to use his name and reputation and money so willingly instead of throwing him off a cliff when he was born? I highly, highly doubt as such. He already had Jamie, his golden child had already been born. There is no other explanation than that he is actually his son.

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Originally Posted by The Poz (Post 9158455)
How would you know :p

No, our company had nothing to do with the baby or any of the face replacements. It did look awful.

I saw the movie is how I know. Is that a problem?

MagicHef 11-29-2012 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9160512)
I hear you, I do. But think about Tywin for a moment. Do you really think a man such as him would tolerate someone else's son, especially a lunatic like Aerys, to use his name and reputation and money so willingly instead of throwing him off a cliff when he was born? I highly, highly doubt as such. He already had Jamie, his golden child had already been born. There is no other explanation than that he is actually his son.

Just for the sake of argument,there must be something keeping Tywin from killing Tyrion already. He has always despised Tyrion for being a dwarf and for causing Joanna to die. Perhaps whatever it is that is keeping him from killing the Tyrion that is his son would be enough to keep him from killing the Tyrion that is not.

Or, maybe Tywin doesn't know.

DJ's left nut 11-29-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9160804)
Just for the sake of argument,there must be something keeping Tywin from killing Tyrion already. He has always despised Tyrion for being a dwarf and for causing Joanna to die. Perhaps whatever it is that is keeping him from killing the Tyrion that is his son would be enough to keep him from killing the Tyrion that is not.

Or, maybe Tywin doesn't know.

Only possible option, IMO.

I think Tyrion probably is his son and that's the only reason he hasn't killed him off. And even then, it's not paternal affection, but that the whole 'kinslaying' thing is clearly very frowned upon.

Then again, GRRM is a dick, so he's probably just screwing with us all and it turns out that the headless corpse of Ned is going to be Azor Ahai reborn. Why? Because **** you, that's why.

Bowser 11-29-2012 02:02 PM

I'll give DJ this - he has been steadfast with his hate of GRRM. LMAO

DJ's left nut 11-29-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9161775)
I'll give DJ this - he has been steadfast with his hate of GRRM. LMAO

Don't kill Grey Wind and we're cool, George.

MagicHef 11-29-2012 02:26 PM

I'm starting to read through the series for the second time, and I've realized something:

I really do not like Robert.

He maintains that Rhaegar kidnapped and raped Lyanna and no one disagrees, which makes it easy to believe that he is right. However, who would disagree with the King on something like that? Barristan obviously has a different view of the events, and we slowly learn that most of the realm was eager for Rhaegar to take the throne.

We see that he didn't really know Lyanna at all, believing her personality to be much different than Ned knows it is. Even Cersei liked him when they were first married, but he couldn't be bothered to love her, and just lets her know that she will never be the "Lyanna" he's created in his head.

Most of the characters, even the antagonists, act out of duty or love for family or friends. Even Tywin and Cercei do much of their "evil" stuff to benefit their family. However, I'm struggling to find a single act of Robert's that is not 100% selfish.

MagicHef 11-29-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9161779)
Don't kill Grey Wind and we're cool, George.

I'm just waiting for reanimated Robb's body with Grey Wind's head to show up somewhere.


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