Franklin is a terrible route runner, I want Ladd if Mitchell is gone

I just want someone who can quickly learn the playbook, will get open and catch the damn ball.

I think McConkey would do all that. I thinks he's a second rounder but hell, picking at 32 (again!) is practically the second round.

That was horrible... I hope like hell he's not our pick.

Worthy 4.25

It's confirmed, Xavier Worthy can definitely fit the burner role

Yeah, two Texas WR's saw their stock spike after today. Two nice players.

(Man, Texas and LSU were loaded at WR this year. With LSU's QB slated to go in the first round I'm feeling better about losing to them.)

That’s great - he needed that time too at just 165 lbs

I can totally see Veach trading up for this guy

This WR class rules. It looks like the best in NFL history. 3 elite talents at the top and depth stacked everywhere.

What a year for us to need WR

Worthy 4.22 on second try

Xavier Worthy also posted a 41" vertical. That guy is an athletic specimen.

I can too, unfortunately.


:mad:

:huh:

That's Cheetah speed.

Guess who’s ready to throw passes in Texas?

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He’s not just a fast guy. He can actually run good routes at all levels and is great tracking the deep ball.

He would be ****ing perfect for our offense.

If we somehow walk away from this with ladd over these other dudes im gonna be furious.


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Trading up for a kid who could be another Hardman? I doubt it :)

Which guy is most like Kadarius Toney?

Clearly a better college prospect than Hardman ever was

Xavier Worthy you are a Chief

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He'll be schemed deep while Rashee will get the shallow to intermediate routes

Compared to Mecole, sure.

But Worthy is behind Adonai AND Sanders in route running for me on his own team, and those guys are going to weigh 40 or 80 lbs more.


ROFL


I expect Worthy to have the impact of Toney if you took out his best games.

Why spend a 1st round pick on a WR with one good trait?

I don't understand the fascination.

End of 2nd or 3rd round, ok.

This combine performance may have put him out of our reach today. He might be the best athlete there. Guys like this generally go in the top 15.

I think this is the guy, I think you have to trade up above Buffalo for him to keep the history going.

We've seen it before, John Ross.

It's not a good trait his speed is extraordinary. That's what you invest in

You don’t know what you’re talking about if you think his only trait is speed.

I think Worthy not quite that bad but his route running, hands, and COD are not elite.

If you are just fast and small I want other traits to combine with the speed or it won't be that impactful.

So he's not a 1.

Don't think he's really a 2 either.

Is he a gadget/slot? Maybe but tiny slots don't get as much play in the current NFL.

It's his only + NFL trait.


Name another trait that is going to be + in the NFL.

He's also a KR/PR with great tracking skills unlike MVS.

Deep ball tracking. He’s more Desean Jackson than John Ross.

Reid and Veach are looking for the next Tyreek, they want that deep threat to stretch the field so this guys on the list.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">XAVIER WORTHY TIES THE NFL COMBINE RECORD WITH A 4.22u 40-YARD DASH �� <a href="https://t.co/DnBGRLjFb8">pic.twitter.com/DnBGRLjFb8</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1764068301850751406?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4.22 nah if AD not there <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> get X</p>&mdash; Charles Omenihu (@charless_94) <a href="https://twitter.com/charless_94/status/1764068294636831034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Worthy is done for the day. He’ll be there at 32

And his start/stop ability, but he'll ignore that too.

Goddamnit I love this WR class so much I want Veach to trade Sneed for a 2 and draft 2 WR’s in the first 3 picks LMAO

I don't see that comp at all.

I keep hearing it and D Jackson wasn't just an Elite #2 WR, he was a LEGENDARY vertical.



I think you are way too high on a guy that could have 6-8 WR's ahead of him.

If the guy picked 8th at WR in this class is a top 15 WR in the NFL, then this class would be the greatest WR group of all time if all these guys are D Jackson and frail Franklin is Slim Reaper.

Let's slow down the hype just a tad here....


;)

And if he’s not, the Chiefs will have the draft capital to trade up after the Sneed trade.

He’s 20 years old too, which means he’s almost certainly gonna get a little faster in the league. LMAO

How about this, we just keep sneed and take the best WR available?

I'm tired of getting small speed guys. Let's switch it up for once fgs. I'd take Franklin over Worthy because dude at least has some height to him and is a chiefs fan so would hopefully put in that extra work to get better.

Thomas, Wilson, Hardman, James, Pringle etc. All smallish speed guys and we need to move on from this unless the guy is Tyreek.

Yea Xavier Worthy has Chiefs written all over him.

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But a good portion of these top 8 receivers will flame out, like adonai mitchell


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Rd1 grades. Agree?

Tier 1
MHJ
Nabers
Odunze

Tier 2
Thomas Jr
Mitchell

Tier 3
Worthy
Franklin

Bro Antonio Brown was a 6th rounder, DeSean Jackson was a 2. It's entirely possible Worthy is better than numerous guys taken ahead of him, that's the draft.

That's where my round 1 ends.

Mitchell and Thomas Jr are preference.

I prefer the guy who could eat 10-12 targets a game over the elite Vertical 2 in Thomas Jr.

But either would be WAY better than tiny Worthy or Frail Franklin.

Worthy with an official 4.21

NFL teams sometimes let a better player drop.

But not as often now as when D Jackson was drafted.

I don't get the excitement for Worthy.

He is the darling of the analytics bros who will then just change it around if he gets drafted later, saying "draft capital"!


Isn't it cool to never be wrong?

Guys who have a bunch of film making plays that run 4.22 and jump 41 are the types of guys you want on your team.

Depends.

Kadarius Toney has a 40" vert and ran a 4.38 40-yard dash and he absolutely sucks.

This time of year people typically get too enamored with the athleticism numbers and focus less on if they are an actual good football player.

That's how you convince yourself to draft John Ross.

His jumping is irrelevant to me.

He's fast and runs well in a straight line.

I don't like his route running, hands, or COD enough at his tiny size.

I also don't think he has a certain role in the NFL.

Gadget/Slot- but slots that barely weigh more than 150 lbs aren't volume or difference makers.

Might be a good year to take two WR .

And it means **** all if they can’t ****ing catch the ball. Where have we seen this before?

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Where is McConkey??

Umm no they weren't.

And Rice certainly isn't. Pringle wasn't.

Drop rate is really overblown when he plays with Quinn Ewers.

I see a Kadarius Toney type impact. Maybe take out this year and just the few games where he caught a few nice passes when he first got on the team.

Vert and broad jumps are how you measure explosion, so it matters.

Rice is the only success and he's not a tiny player or frail like Franklin.


Pringle wasn't drafted.

I recall DK Metcalf was considered limited and tested worse than Tom Brady in the COD drills. Doubt he'd fall out of the top 10 in a redraft, let alone fall to 64.

This forum is hilarious, we hate all QBs, we also don't like WRs unless they are perfect prospects, get the **** outta here with that.

Did you like Marquise Goodwin as a player?


I think he made some nice plays now and then but wasn't overall that impactful.

And Goodwin was an Olympic level athlete.

I didn't care about DK's COD because he could do other shit.


Little Worthy ain't DK Metcalf.

The Metcalf shit is comical, this man is the size of a TE and runs faster than 99% of WRs, but he'll suck because he can't cut on a dime... nevermind he basically doesn't have to do that to win on routes.

No one you take at 32 is going to be a perfect prospect, for this offense and for being a compliment to Rice I'll take the speed guy.

Worthy was being talked about as a fringe 1st prospect before he broke the Combine record as the fastest ever. He isn't going to be there past 15 at the Colts. Irsay loves speed.

Not sure how you can be a Chiefs fan who watched regular season MVS and Toney and not be extremely concerned with Worthy dropping good passes wide open

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I don't buy that, there's to many WRs.

Well don't draft any of them then cause they all drop balls. If that's what you're worried about just take a guard.

I find it hard to believe that Worthy, Mitchell, and Thomas Jr. are all gone at 32.

I want sennott or Beebe as a chiefs.

Yea I don't either.

If that happens, it probably means an OT like Mims or Guyton probably falls into our lap.

Or a day 1 plug and replace starter at CB.

Also something I got today, Keon Coleman is way more ready to contribute day 1 than Troy Franklin is.

Or maybe Troy Franklin who is a better ball tracker/better hands

Franklin the guy in the cross drill that let the ball eat him alive?

Umm did I mention Rice? He's not exactly a giant either but I was talking about medium sized fast guys mainly.

Outside the top 3, there haven't been too many rated above him. Thomas Jr, Franklin, Coleman, and McConkey sometimes have been the only ones consistently at or around him. With Coleman running a 4.6 he probably bowed out of that group and Adonai Mitchell popped into the discussion. Of all those guys, only Franklin and Thomas Jr were more productive in college. This kid just broke the combine record. The last two times fringe 1s ran sub-4.3 at the combine, they went really high (Ruggs 12th and Ross 9th). He absolutely just jumped them all IMO.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official 40-yd times for WRs (second group):<br><br>4.21 Xavier Worthy<br>4.33 Brian Thomas Jr. (at 209 pounds!)<br>4.36 Devontez Walker<br>4.39 Roman Wilson<br>4.41 Ricky Pearsall<br>4.45 Rome Odunze<br>4.46 Jamari Thrash<br>4.47 Malik Washington, Devaughn Vele<br>4.50 Brenden Rice</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1764076005986070698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>