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Chief Roundup 03-15-2018 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472197)
I don’t think we can afford Mathieu honestly. If they many teams are in on him, someone is bound to offer an insane amount.

Probably going to be the Jets. They have the room, him and Boles were with the Cardinals together so there is some history there.

bigjosh 03-15-2018 10:01 PM

Our own chiefs recruitment team.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f1e78b7e15.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8c6ce59677.jpg

Simplicity 03-15-2018 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13472206)
Probably going to be the Jets. They have the room, him and Boles were with the Cardinals together so there is some history there.

Jamal Adams also plays there as well... LSU connection.

Only reason I don't think he goes there is he stated he wanted a football and winning atmosphere. Jets are no where near being competitive.

Simplicity 03-15-2018 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13472223)

Man I love Dustin... If there is anyone on this team right now I want to win a ring more than anyone is him.

RealSNR 03-15-2018 10:07 PM

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pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 10:09 PM

Jets have Marcus Maye though who they like

TimeForWasp 03-15-2018 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13472223)


Am I weird? For some reason, two of our players reaching out to him after his culture over money coment , brought tears to my eyes.


I mean literally.

Chief Northman 03-15-2018 10:18 PM

If there really are legs to this, Chiefs would be wise to pursue it a tad more aggressively.

The best remaining corner fit on the market just re-upped with the Jets - Mo Claiborne. That leaves a lot of zone guys or marginal starters at best. The DL starter market is thinning out, and Suh/Richardson will break bank along with having character questions linger.

Mathieu’s versatility fits great with how Sutton schemes his safeties. If money is tight, axe Sorenson who Mathieu essentially replaces in some capacities and also insure the position through the draft which has solid secondary talent throughout the first three rounds.

Strongside 03-15-2018 10:29 PM

I know the injury history here, but Berry/Honey Badger would be an absolute BLAST to watch on Sundays.

Coach 03-15-2018 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472242)
I know the injury history here, but Berry/Honey Badger would be an absolute BLAST to watch on Sundays.

All Pro IR players, for sure.

BossChief 03-15-2018 10:39 PM

The way Veach talked about attacking FA in areas that are weak in the draft and then his specific comments on TM, I just doubt he’s gonna drop big coin on a FA safety when the draft is strong at the position.

I’d be happy with the move because he takes the ball away and makes big plays...but I can see why Veach would pass.

BossChief 03-15-2018 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472242)
I know the injury history here, but Berry/Honey Badger would be an absolute BLAST to watch on Sundays.

Sure would help our corners in their new roles...especially after adding a good ILB.

KChiefs1 03-15-2018 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471993)
Man... I personally said bad idea originally but if Veach sees something is left than I’ll be fine with it.

Biggest reason for optimism is he’s just 25.



Veach is going young & if he checks out medically ok...I could see it happening. Veach isn't a dumbass.

KChiefs1 03-15-2018 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472242)
I know the injury history here, but Berry/Honey Badger would be an absolute BLAST to watch on Sundays.



Both good run stoppers too.

Simplicity 03-15-2018 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13472245)
All Pro IR players, for sure.

Dude had the most snaps on defense in the NFL last year?

TribalElder 03-15-2018 11:12 PM

Honey Badger has always been fun to watch

He plays with a ton of heart

He has more fight in him than some entire teams do

If it is supposed to be it will

BossChief 03-15-2018 11:33 PM

He has the same age and injury history as Sammy Watkins.

BlackOp 03-15-2018 11:49 PM

This is KC's "time to spend" period...They will be able to get out of Houston's bloated deal before Mahomes needs to get paid.

They have a lot cap next year and a lot of picks....load up now while the new labor is cheap. You only stumble on an inexpensive franchise QB once every 20 years...or in KC's case...once every 50 years.

Chiefs are in a "sweet spot"...

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13472274)
He has the same age and injury history as Sammy Watkins.

That’s a stretch. Not saying I wouldn’t be okay with Mathieu under the right circumstances, but the guy has tore 2 ACLs and had a bad shoulder injury not long ago. Watkins just broke his foot and had a strain or two.

aturnis 03-16-2018 01:40 AM

Surprised nobody posted this.

Honeybadger liked a Chiefs post on Instagram.

https://twitter.com/KingdomConnektN/...174871555?s=19

TLO 03-16-2018 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13472312)
Surprised nobody posted this.

Honeybadger liked a Chiefs post on Instagram.

https://twitter.com/KingdomConnektN/...174871555?s=19

THE DEAL IS DONE

DaNewGuy 03-16-2018 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13472313)
THE DEAL IS DONE

TO THE SHIP

Strongside 03-16-2018 09:57 AM

I mean, you guys.

If this kid's healthy, and he is, sign me the **** up.

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Buckweath 03-16-2018 10:09 AM

The guy on Twitter who scooped the Watkins deal is saying the Seahawks are closing in on Tyrann Mathieu.

Strongside 03-16-2018 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13472728)
The guy on Twitter who scooped the Watkins deal is saying the Seahawks are closing in on Tyrann Mathieu.

**** that guy.

Simply Red 03-16-2018 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13472728)
The guy on Twitter who scooped the Watkins deal is saying the Seahawks are closing in on Tyrann Mathieu.

well then - bye felicity

Simply Red 03-16-2018 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472733)
**** that guy.

I sure hope you're right - but yeah - **** 'em

Simply Red 03-16-2018 10:23 AM

I'm not a fan of Arrowhead Addict - but this was a decent thought.
 
4:00PM • 3 hours ago
He refused to take a pay cut, so AZ cut him. Obviously he's banking on some other team coughing up more than AZ's reduced number. Of course, 'it's not about the money'... Whenever I hear a player say "it's not about the money" - it's almost always about the money. He has a right to earn as much as he can - but don't say it's not about the $$$ when you're gambling that you can make more somewhere else - which, he just might. He's very versatile, and would probably fit nicely in our S/LB hybrid role...good vs the run.
I believe in AZ he was playing both at CB (slot) and S - which is probably why his numbers have tapered off a bit. As just S and S/LB, he would be a big upgrade. But, given the list of teams interested, I think he'll be way too expensive

.

Mother****erJones 03-16-2018 10:25 AM

I don’t see KC signing him. We’ll see

Simply Red 03-16-2018 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13472758)
I don’t see KC signing him. We’ll see

I was warm on it yesterday - I don't think it's happening, nope. Sucks but perhaps it's a blessing in disguise - time will tell Mother****er.

The Franchise 03-16-2018 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13472758)
I don’t see KC signing him. We’ll see

I don't see how we fit him under the cap.

Sassy Squatch 03-16-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13472770)
I don't see how we fit him under the cap.

Restructure 1 of Houston, Berry, or Fisher.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13472312)
Surprised nobody posted this.

Honeybadger liked a Chiefs post on Instagram.

https://twitter.com/KingdomConnektN/...174871555?s=19

That’s legitimately interesting considering he supposedly wants to go somewhere that has a strong culture or whatever. That post ties directly to that.

BleedingRed 03-16-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13472770)
I don't see how we fit him under the cap.

Pretty easy with a simple restructure or two

hometeam 03-16-2018 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13472728)
The guy on Twitter who scooped the Watkins deal is saying the Seahawks are closing in on Tyrann Mathieu.

https://media.giphy.com/media/12XMGIWtrHBl5e/giphy.gif

DaNewGuy 03-16-2018 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13472728)
The guy on Twitter who scooped the Watkins deal is saying the Seahawks are closing in on Tyrann Mathieu.

Thought he wanted to play for a contender, seems like seattle is blowing shit up. Rams and 49ers gonna run that divison now

BleedingRed 03-16-2018 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 13472775)

I highly doubt it

Simply Red 03-16-2018 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 13472777)
Thought he wanted to play for a contender, seems like seattle is blowing shit up. Rams and 49ers gonna run that divison now

He typo'd his statement - it was supposed to say - "I'm ALL about the money."

BleedingRed 03-16-2018 10:36 AM

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Strongside 03-16-2018 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13472770)
I don't see how we fit him under the cap.

Once again. We still have $14MM in cap space. And the draft accounts for about $500k. We have room for another big move or a couple smaller ones, as plenty of people have pointed out. If they want him, they can sign him.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13472783)
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I just checked and couldn’t find him under the likes of that post. May be just a glitch or someone photoshopped.

staylor26 03-16-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472786)
I just checked and couldn’t find him under the likes of that post. May be just a glitch or someone photoshopped.

You looked through all 6,000+ different names?

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13472788)
You looked through all 6,000+ different names?

You can just type in his name and it should pop up haha

Strongside 03-16-2018 10:41 AM

Edit. We have $12.7 in cap space. Minus the 500k or so for the draft and we've still got 12.2MM. That's plenty to get him locked up if you choose to do so. And the next few years look great as far as cap space is concerned.

https://i.imgur.com/2LMrgey.png

This includes all of the new deals that have been signed as well, FYI.

Everyone tripping out that our cupboards are bare in cap space need to pump the brakes a touch.

staylor26 03-16-2018 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472790)
You can just type in his name and it should pop up haha

Lol gotcha never tried that

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472796)
Edit. We have $12.7 in cap space. Minus the 500k or so for the draft and we've still got 12.2MM. That's plenty to get him locked up if you choose to do so. And the next few years look great as far as cap space is concerned.

https://i.imgur.com/2LMrgey.png

This includes all of the new deals that have been signed as well, FYI.

Everyone tripping out that our cupboards are bare in cap space need to pump the brakes a touch.

Don’t think it includes Sherman or Jenkins

Mother****erJones 03-16-2018 10:45 AM

You can cut Sorensen post-1 and get like $4 mil. You can restructure guys. Bailey can be cut for $6 mil. Just option are there to make it happen. I don’t see it. Although Terez isn’t breaking news if it’s not 100% fact. He won’t just post rumors to post them.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2018 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472784)
Once again. We still have $14MM in cap space. And the draft accounts for about $500k. We have room for another big move or a couple smaller ones, as plenty of people have pointed out. If they want him, they can sign him.

The Chiefs need $3-5 million in case of injury/emergency and the draft will account for $2-3 million in 2018 and more if they move up.

O.city 03-16-2018 10:48 AM

Someone posted that the draft won’t be that much not sure how they figured it

Strongside 03-16-2018 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472808)
Don’t think it includes Sherman or Jenkins

Good call. Sherman's deal is reportedly a one year, but I don't know about Jenkins yet. Either way, can't see either of those guys carrying any kind of astronomical cap number.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2018 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13472810)
You can cut Sorensen post-1 and get like $4 mil. You can restructure guys. Bailey can be cut for $6 mil. Just option are there to make it happen. I don’t see it. Although Terez isn’t breaking news if it’s not 100% fact. He won’t just post rumors to post them.

While I'd like to see Sorensen cut or his contract restructured, I don't think the Chiefs can cut Bailey because they're already thin on the D line.

Maybe a two year restructure for Bailey.

Strongside 03-16-2018 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13472814)
The Chiefs need $3-5 million in case of injury/emergency and the draft will account for $2-3 million in 2018 and more if they move up.

No the draft does not pull $2-$3 million.

BleedingRed 03-16-2018 10:51 AM

one restructure and we have the space

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13472815)
Someone posted that the draft won’t be that much not sure how they figured it

It all depends on if they stay put or move up but with their current picks of 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 6, 7, 7, they'll need at least $2 million, which isn't including UDFA's.

FTR, the Chiefs gave DAT a $90k signing bonus as well.

It all adds up...

Strongside 03-16-2018 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13472828)
It all depends on if they stay put or move up but with their current picks of 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 6, 7, 7, they'll need at least $2 million, which isn't including UDFA's.

FTR, the Chiefs gave DAT a $90k signing bonus as well.

It all adds up...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to get this out of the way right now, the draft doesn&#39;t cost 4 to 5 mil against the cap. Yes that is the total cost, but it isn&#39;t the new cap hit. You have to figure in the current bottom contracts falling off. See the picture below. <a href="https://t.co/y7T6ChEg2R">pic.twitter.com/y7T6ChEg2R</a></p>&mdash; ChiefBearcat (@Chief_Bearcat) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chief_Bearcat/status/974637728519348224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Simply Red 03-16-2018 10:52 AM

so if he has say '6' clubs interested - what's the lead-time (historically) for said player to sign - say he vetts all 6 prior to a decision - what? maybe 8 or 9 days??? So it'll be about a week and half before we know? I'm just reaching for ANYthing.... And I'm like an impatient kid who's parent is rationing the cotton candy at the fair.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2018 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472821)
No the draft does not pull $2-$3 million.

wut

Last year alone, Mahomes, Kpass and Hunt were more than $1.5 million in base salaries, not including their signing bonuses.

bigjosh 03-16-2018 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13472800)
Lol gotcha never tried that

Shows up that he liked it on my IG.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...185ff0b570.jpg

DaNewGuy 03-16-2018 10:54 AM

Did he sign yet

Strongside 03-16-2018 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13472836)
wut

Last year alone, Mahomes, Kpass and Hunt were more than $1.5 million.

In base salary, or cap hit? Mahomes accounted for the vast majority of that, too. And we ain't picking in the top 10.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13472837)
Shows up that he liked it on my IG.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...185ff0b570.jpg

Must be because I don’t follow him.

DaneMcCloud 03-16-2018 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472829)
.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...204293359.html

And assuming they keep all eight of their draft picks — once the Smith and Peters trades are completed on March 14 — that should eat up a few million more.

bigjosh 03-16-2018 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472841)
Must be because I don’t follow him.

Yep, it wont tell you any specific names at that screen unless you follow that person.

KCrockaholic 03-16-2018 11:02 AM

Is this actually close to happening?

The Franchise 03-16-2018 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13472852)
Is this actually close to happening?

No new info has come out. But my guess is probably not.

Simply Red 03-16-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13472852)
Is this actually close to happening?

no

Strongside 03-16-2018 11:09 AM

Here's where our numbers would stand IF:

• Sherman's deal is the reported 1 year, $2 million dollar

• Jenkins' deal is minor. This could be a bigger number, but as you'll see it wouldn't
matter.

• We give Tyrann the deal he's reportedly looking for, which is somewhere north of $9
million a year. I saw some numbers saying he was looking for 11-plus, but starting it
at 9 million per, 4 years, with a $12M signing bonus. That number could also be higher,
but I'm generalizing. You could also backload that contract based on our cap space over the next several years.

• We cut Sorenson after June 1

As you can see, that would still leave us with $3.2M in space for the draft, which again, if I'm understanding correctly could come in at around $500k based on bottom salaries dropping off and the positions of our draft picks based on their salaries. There are also a ton of restructuring options available.

https://i.imgur.com/zM0AUeG.png

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 11:13 AM

And Mathieu’s cap number would certainly be lower than $12M this year anyways. It’s doable. Not likely, but doable.

KChiefs1 03-16-2018 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472864)
Here's where our numbers would stand IF:

• Sherman's deal is the reported 1 year, $2 million dollar

• Jenkins' deal is minor. This could be a bigger number, but as you'll see it wouldn't
matter.

• We give Tyrann the deal he's reportedly looking for, which is somewhere north of $9
million a year. I saw some numbers saying he was looking for 11-plus, but starting it
at 9 million per, 4 years, with a $12M signing bonus. That number could also be higher,
but I'm generalizing. You could also backload that contract based on our cap space over the next several years.

• We cut Sorenson after June 1

As you can see, that would still leave us with $3.2M in space for the draft, which again, if I'm understanding correctly could come in at around $500k based on bottom salaries dropping off and the positions of our draft picks based on their salaries. There are also a ton of restructuring options available.

https://i.imgur.com/zM0AUeG.png



Then draft pass rushers & CB’s in the draft.

Strongside 03-16-2018 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472870)
And Mathieu’s cap number would certainly be lower than $12M this year anyways. It’s doable. Not likely, but doable.

Yeah. They'd work some shit out with the numbers that I can't do here.

Simply Red 03-16-2018 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13472872)
Yeah. They'd work some shit out with the numbers that I can't do here.

very true - they're able to do stuff we can't fathom (IMO)

pugsnotdrugs19 03-16-2018 11:21 AM

Maybe HB wants to play next to Berry? I could see that being very motivating in deciding to be a Chief.

Passionate fan base, strong culture, potentially great offense. Solid defense in the making. I can see it.

carcosa 03-16-2018 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65TPT (Post 13472240)
Am I weird? For some reason, two of our players reaching out to him after his culture over money coment , brought tears to my eyes.


I mean literally.

you seem like a sweetie

BleedingRed 03-16-2018 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13472887)
Maybe HB wants to play next to Berry? I could see that being very motivating in deciding to be a Chief.

Passionate fan base, strong culture, potentially great offense. Solid defense in the making. I can see it.

My thoughts exactly...... Plus he looks good in red.

Simply Red 03-16-2018 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13472891)
you seem like a sweetie

I want to cuddle honey badger

Mother****erJones 03-16-2018 12:02 PM

My guess is he goes to the Jets

Simply Red 03-16-2018 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13472957)
My guess is he goes to the Jets

why do you say that, Mother****er?

Mother****erJones 03-16-2018 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13472959)
why do you say that, Mother****er?

Just a hunch. No clue r ally other than they have a ton of money to still spend

DaNewGuy 03-16-2018 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13472979)
Just a hunch. No clue r ally other than they have a ton of money to still spend

Shut up and stop speculating, I'm trying to use positive energy to bring him to kc

Kiimo 03-16-2018 12:16 PM

Stay away

Tiny slow man


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