Sam Bradford went for a first and a conditional pick that was a 4th to a second depending on triggers...

I mean, Alex is probably worth at least that.

Right?

That was to a desperate team though, right before the season IIRC. I don't want to wait that long. I'll take less to get rid of Alex sooner. Mahomes needs to go into OTAs getting all of the first team reps. We don't need this Alex bullshit hanging over the team's head.

Vikings were desperate. Bridgewater's injury was right before the season started.

We are getting our pick back from Buffalo

I'm one of Smith's largest backers, especially compared to most of the posters here, and I feel he gives us our best shot at a Super Bowl next season. With that said, his value will never be higher than it is right now and we'd be stupid not to cash in on that given that Mahomes looks like he's ready. Even if that means we take a step back next season, we'll be better off in the long run.

**** YOU!

You heard Rappoport. There are several teams interested. That's not going to be a major bidding war, but it IS going to boost his trade value, perhaps just as much if a desperate team needed him at the last minute.

Unless Belichick takes over the team before then and pawns him off for a 2-dollar steak, Alex's price BEGINS at a 2nd round pick. Minimum.

Maybe we can draft another Javier Arenas with a high 2

Tigger is part of the trade with Smith right?

It will destroy any value Smith has. Tigs will have to follow Alex via free agency.

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Buffalo can’t be this stupid.

Would trade Alex Smith for Javier Arenas right now, straight up, wherever he is.

They've been through this with Ryan Fitzpatrick... hell, he's a FA.

Alex is brought on at this point to provide stability to a franchise for the end of his career. They know he'll play well enough to keep the fan base attending vs. what other teams have at this point. Cleveland, Miami, Buffalo, if you've been bad for awhile then Alex is your kinda guy that your franchise needs so the money keeps coming in. If you think Alex is going to win you the Superbowl, well then you haven't been paying attention.

Football card REVOKED!!!!!

Will be curious to see what he brings in a trade... 34 years old, $20M ... would have to think it's a trade and restructure kind of deal to give them security for 2 years if they're giving up anything higher than a R3.

I still think the Browns with all those picks and cap room are your huckleberry.

Reid would agree... the 2nd best sting of years in his career are tied to Smith.

All Clay would have to do is stand there waving his arms like a wide open receiver and Alex would never see him or just refuse to step on the accelerator. ROFL

One of our local stations here in Phoenix was reporting last night on how interested the Cardinals are in Smith, how he'd be perfect for the QB situation right now, and how the Cardinals realize they'd have to give up their mid first round pick for him but even so, they're still very interested. At least that's the scuttlebutt for now.

If you could get the first rounder from the cardinals, man.

Veach would be a badass for that

Why? So he can play the 49ers twice a year?

His best bet... go to the Jaguars. Not sure what Luck is going to be like when he comes back, same with Watson - but, if he's ok, HOU is set. That being said, the Jags are kinda built as a "QB Away" from being a nice threat the next 2-3 years.

Cardinals have to deal with the Rams and whatever the SEA look like next year... and the 49ers are on the rise.

Wonder if the Jags make a play.

It looks to me like there's 4 teams that could use his services.

1. Browns
2. Jaguars
3. Bills
4. Cardinals

Those are some good teams to start a bidding war. The Browns have a high enough 2nd pick that the other 3 would have to throw their 1st round pick to beat their offer.

Or I could be over valuing Alex Smith and they just offer a 3rd. I'm fine with that as well.

I don't see why any team would be dying to give up anything significant for Alex Smith.

Jacksonville would make sense but Cousins would be a much better option.

Buffalo has two #1's and Tyrod Taylor. They'd be better off letting Tyrod be their bridge QB and using their draft capital to secure one of the four great, young QB's in the draft.

Arizona would make sense, but they'd also be better off using their draft picks to trade up for a young QB.

That leaves the Browns, who can pick whoever they want and have extra picks to burn on Smith. But does John Dorsey really want to deal with KC? And why wouldn't they just sign Josh McCown to be the placeholder in case their QBOTF isn't ready?

Once their HB comes back they have a complete offense. A nice group of WR's (even with Fitz gone and one of them constantly being out with a blood disorder.) All Smith has to do is move the chains and not turn it over to protect a defense (much like KC's) that gives up yards but gets turnovers.

I think it's a good fit.

I would think that Nagy+Smith would have been good to Cleveland. Dorsey knows what he's getting and they'd likely hit 8 wins in year 1...

Ok so put it down. Enough with this bullshit of you spouting shit then when it doesn’t happen no one holds your feet to the fire

Make a prediction or something. No one is gonna trade for him? He will just get released? What?

They don't need Cousins and his soon-to-be-tops NFL contract.

They just need a guy like Smith to not eff it up.

Taylor is gone after this year.

It would get Smith out of the division (and a Nagy+Smith move would have made sense.)

Here's the thing. Yes they could all make a play for Cousins....but you're going to be bidding against each other and whoever gets Cousins is going to severely overpay for his services.

And the Bills, Cardinals and Jaguars don't have the draft capitol to move up for a QB. The Bills have the #21 and #22 picks which aren't going to be worth enough to move up into the Top 10....let alone the Top 5 for a QB. And if a team DOES have enough to move up....you're basically drafting that QB and forcing him to start because you have nothing else.

I still think the best team for Alex is the Browns but I'd be down with the Cardinals or the Jaguars giving us a 1st for Alex.

I don't think the Chiefs are going to get a great return for Alex Smith. Maybe a mid, to late 2nd rounder or a 3rd.

There will not be a bidding war for Alex Smith.

Would think your advise to all those teams is just take him and his salary and he is yours, correct? Not worth a freaking thing from the post I've read. I'm sure they've all been in here reading all of the great post on how Alex sucks donkey dick so maybe we wont get a thing for him? But of course, you all are smarter than say a Gruden or all the other HC's/GM's so not to worry someone will make the trade, whew!

Cool story, bro.

Not just overpay but Cousins, no matter where he goes, will be the highest paid QB in the league.

And all those teams have done that in the recent past.

I would have agreed if Dorsey had hired Nagy. They didn't.

If Smith is a FA he won't sign with Cleveland and it's obvious why he wouldn't want to go there at this point in his career. Honestly, I don't think Andy/Hunt would send him there...

But how much would he bring in return if he were a Bronco?

I could see it for sure. Denver would love to have Alex,(wont happen). The Chiefs, if not for Mahomes would be fine with Alex. Lots of teams would love to have the top rated passer in the league.
What a great spot for the Chiefs to be in! Thank You Alex!!

99% of the posts on Chiefsplanet - Smith sucks. He's a cuck. He misses open receivers. Our playoff losses are all his fault.

Then, in the trade Smith discussion - he's so much better than [x], he's worth at least a first. Team [y] really needs him, he can help them.

In his attempt to shit troll Chiefs fans with a negative position, he overlooked one thing.

If teams make a play for Cousins (that team would likely be the Broncos, mind you) then the Redskins now enter the pool of QB needy teams.

He's a total piece of shit. His appeal is that he's less shitty than about 12 other quarterbacks in the league...and we'll gladly pawn our fool's gold off on some other rube.

The difference is he can get you to the playoffs but that's not good enough anymore. Some franchises that is good enough and that's why he's valuable. We are at different places and expectations than most teams.

Browns were willing to trade a 1st+ for an unproven Garropolo with 1/2 a season of control.

Dorsey isn't trading for a 33 year old Alex...

I think Denver would be one of the few teams who'd be serious about trading for Smith. If Smith would agree to sign a sub-$20M per year contract extension they'd be all over it.

Smith is an above average QB. If there was a great list of FA QBs out there that teams could go after.....then we wouldn't get dick in return for Smith.

BUT there are about 4-5 teams that could use a QB next year and the projected top QB that is going to be available is Kirk Cousins. So if you're one of those 4-5 teams.....are you going to pay Cousins north of $25 million a season to get him? One of those teams has the draft capitol to draft a top QB in the draft but has a history of drafting QBs and then ruining them by throwing them to the wolves.

The Browns have 5 picks in the first two rounds and have $100 million in cap space. They could easily take the QB they want, trade for Smith and let the rookie sit for a year. Smith could get them back to being a respectable 8-8 and then hit FA the year after. Or the Browns could draft a rookie with the #1 pick, throw him to the wolves and hope they don't ruin another QB.

Good to know, Mrs. Dorsey. I'll be sure and pass that onto Veach.

If Arizona would offer a 1st you jump on that shit faster than an naked Alexsexual on a alex fat head.

What teams need QBs?

Jets - Could just draft one.
Bills - Could roll with Taylor but more than likely will cut him and need one.
Browns - More than likely going to draft one.
Jaguars - Bortles is due $19 million and isn't worth it.
Broncos - Needs to hope that one drops in the draft.
Redskins - Could re-sign Cousins but if they don't....they'll need one.
Giants - They have Manning but don't have shit outside of him.
Vikings - Bradford, Keenum and Bridgewater are all FAs.
Cardinals - Has nothing and probably won't get a QB at #15.

I'll laugh when the Broncos go all in for Smith and we end up eating his shit for the next 4 seasons while he dominates our shitty defense.

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If you'd like to wager on that I'm open to it...

Why give up a high pick for Smith when you can potentially get a younger, better QB without giving up anything?

If they cut Bortles they'll have $40M+ worth of cap space.



Why get rid of Tyrod for Smith? They make the same amount of money and Smith isn't the missing piece that's going to take Buffalo to the Super Bowl.

2 of the top QBs wanted to stay in school to avoid the prospect of being drafted by Cleveland. A year of security with Alex Smith might be just the thing the Browns need to stop their chosen QB from going all Elway on them.

The Jags should be calling about Alex the second their season is over.

Wow, you know literally nothing about the Bills if you just posted that. They benched Tyrod for Nathan Peterman who proceeded to have one of the worst showings I've ever seen. The Bills have made their feeling on Tyrod abundantly clear.

This is the worst year for KC to get a return for Smith.

Bradford, McCown, Bridgewater, Keenum, and Cousins are all FA's and there are four legitimate first-round QB's, plus LaMar Jackson available in the draft.

Because you can't in the short term.

All the Jags need is a QB that won't completely shit the bed 6 games a year.

Hell, they have one and still made it further than Alex+Andy.

The Bills are ****ing stupid.

I can't explain stupid...

This is a pretty straight forward business decision whether you are pro-Alex or not.

The Kansas City Chiefs defense was NOT good. Alex Smith had the best season of his career but it got us no where because the defense couldn't get off the field. Smith isn't good enough when it matters to overcome a shoddy defense.

Alex Smith is worth more to Kansas City not on this team than he is by staying. Anyone with a pulse knows Mahomes is ready for the starting gig. People that follow this game for a living can see something special in him. It's his time to lead this football team. In the mean time, by trading Smith, Kansas City opens themselves up to potentially multiple early round picks and nearly $20M in cap space. Picks and $$$ that can go to one of the leagues worst defense. It's a no brainer.

There's nothing Alex Smith brings to the table that's going to help this team win a Super Bowl in 2018. Not with this defense. Add to the fact Mahomes is tailor made to Reid's new hybrid WCO/Spread offense. The time is now to cash in and move forward.

ROFL Sure thing man.

When you ignore the OP..

Tyrod isn't their QBOTF. But he could be a perfect bridge QB for one more year.

The Bills need to use their high picks to draft a QB, not give them up for a 34 year old Alex Smith.

I would laugh if the Broncos traded for him just to see Knowmo flip 180 degrees and talk about how the Chiefs just never put a good team around Smith.

LMAO

Rapaport is a shill. For agents, teams, the NFL. The only time I listen to what he says is when he's breaking news.

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Cousins is a younger, better QB than Smith.

Truff...

Their high picks? You mean the #21 and #22 pick? Those high picks?

Maybe if there were 4 Cousins on the free agent market you'd have something resembling a point.

So is the QB who just knocked us out of the playoffs.

Hell, he's a mirror image of Smith...

Yeah those ones. They should use them to move up in the draft.

LMAO

Cousins is the only QB available that could challenge Alex Smith as the best on the market, and he’s not because Alex had a better season and he will be around $9-10 million cheaper than Cousins.

Cousins could also be even more expensive if Jimmy G, Brees and Rodgers get their new deals before he signs.

Nobody wants to pay the Cousins the most money of any player in the NFL and if they do they are desperate morons.

Louis Riddick on espn said Buffalo may be willing to give their 1st for Alex and they keep ours so they still draft ahead of us. I'd do that in a second lmao

Cousins and Smith are by far the best FA QB's that will be available. If you think your team is close right now, those are your best options.

So essentially we gave up a 3rd and swapped Alex and Mahomes? WOW!

Cool.

I'm down. Although their original pick is #21. Our pick is #22. So they'd be giving us our pick.

Drew Brees.

His contract voids after the playoffs, iirc. I doubt the Saints dont lock him up though.

I used to think the Chiefs could get a 2nd round pick and minimum a 3rd round pick for Alex Smith. I now think they definitly can get at minimum a 2round pick but I don't see how a team would be willing to give a 1st round pick for him.

Really, maybe only the Jaguars who probably need to upgrade the QB position right now. An elite defense like they have likely won't last for years so they should make their best effort to get a guy like Cousins or Smith.

If I were Buffalo, I would be Ok giving a 2nd round pick for Smith but I want my 1st round picks to get that top QB prospect if possible.

Its just a game of musical chairs. If someone else ends up with Brees them the Saints are the team in need of a QB.

Dorsey and the chiefs didn't exactly end on good terms. Why are people so confident he will go there? It will have to be a stupid amount of money for him to agree to an extension

After Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and Mayfield who is the next top QB? Right now all four QB's are projected to go higher than where the Bills are drafting in the first.

Where Buffalo is drafting in the 1st, who is potentially available that's equal too or better than Alex Smith? Remember they just drafted Peterman. I think there's a strong likelihood Buffalo makes that deal with KC if they feel one of the top 4 mentioned won't be there.