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if he beats defenders like he beats pregnant women, he'll be good

If Kansas State football players had any doubts about the big-play abilities of Oklahoma State’s Tyreek Hill, Bill Snyder erased them with seven words. “He's the fastest guy in the world,” Snyder said earlier this week.

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I'm so impressed, I just put my wife in a chokehold and **** punted her!!!

Go Chiefs!!!

Now? Domestic abusers of pregnant women.

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Well if that bitch would have just listened the first time....


Kidding. That sounds pretty horrible.

Here's the whole article for those who are interested.

STILLWATER — During a preliminary hearing on Monday, a pregnant woman testified that she was punched and choked by former Oklahoma State football player Tyreek Hill.
Crystal Espinal, who alleges that she was assaulted on Dec. 11, and Hill were in Judge Kathy Thomas’ Payne County courtroom on Monday.
Hill has been charged with domestic assault and battery by strangulation — a felony punishable by one to three years in prison and/or a $3,000 fine. One day after the alleged attack — and only six days after he scored on a 92-yard, fourth-quarter punt return to help OSU defeat Oklahoma in the Bedlam game at Norman — Hill was dismissed from the Cowboy football program.
Espinal told police in December that she and Hill had been dating since June. According to information given to Stillwater police, her age was 20 at the time of the incident and she now would be in her fifth month of pregnancy. She testified on Monday that she and Hill had sex during the evening of Dec. 11, and then “were planning on going to the movies” when he became angered by messages he saw on her phone.
Hill “threw my laptop (and) my phone into the hallway” before ordering her to leave his apartment, Espinal testified. She said she was in the hallway outside of Hill’s room, but did not leave because she wearing only a T-shirt and underwear. After she reentered the apartment, “domestic violence occurred,” she said.
In response to questions from Payne County Assistant District Attorney Lynn Hermanson, Espinal said that Hill “punched my face. ... When I tried to get up, I was put into a chokehold (for) longer than a minute.”
Espinal, who at the time of the alleged attack told police investigators that she was pregnant with Hill’s child, said Hill punched her stomach “on the left side,” and after that “grabbed my neck ... and started choking me again. ... He was pounding my head against the wall. He eventually stopped.”
When asked why she believes Hill stopped with his alleged attack, Espinal replied, “I think he had a realization moment.”
Thomas scheduled a trial-court arraignment for April 17.
“At that time,” Hill’s defense attorney Cheryl Ramsey said, “we will enter a plea of not guilty.”
A trial may not begin until the spring of 2016, Ramsey said.
The 21-year-old Hill no longer attends Oklahoma State and resides again in his home state of Georgia. During his court appearance on Monday, he was accompanied by family members. Hill did not respond to hallway questions from media members. It is not known whether he will attempt to play elsewhere this fall.
After two seasons at Garden City (Kansas) Community College, Hill signed with OSU after having been recruited also by Oklahoma, Alabama, Southern Cal, Baylor, Arkansas, Arizona State, Georgia, Nebraska and Tennessee, among others. Hill finished the 2014 season with rankings of No. 2 in the Big 12 and No. 11 nationally in all-purpose yards (150.9 per game). Big 12 coaches voted him the league’s offensive newcomer of the year, and he also was a member of the Associated Press’ all-conference team.
Presented as evidence on Monday were photographs of Espinal’s injuries sustained during the alleged attack. The photographs were taken by Stillwater police Sgt. Kyle Bruce, who testified on Monday that Espinal “seemed distraught” when he interviewed her on Dec. 12, and that there were “injuries on her face and neck that were visible.”
In the original Stillwater police report, Espinal was said to have told an investigating officer that Hill “threw her around like a ragdoll. ... She explained Tyreek has a volatile temper and that he thought it was OK to punch and choke her.”

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This one tells a little more about how it started

Judge rules probable cause in case against Tyreek Hill

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Tyreek Hill leaves a Payne County Courthouse courtroom after a scheduled court appearance on Tuesday, Jan. 13. Friday, Hill pleaded guilty to a charge of domestic assault and battery by strangulation.

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Tim Ahrens, Sports Editor @ahrens_tim | Updated Mar 18, 2015

Tyreek Hill is headed to trial for an alleged crime that saw him kicked off the Cowboy football and track teams.

A Payne County district court judge ruled there was probable cause for trial in the case against former Oklahoma State football player and track athlete Tyreek Hill on Monday morning.

Hill’s trial is set for April 17. There will be a pre-trial arraignment in which Hill will plead not guilty, according to Hill’s attorney Cheryl Ramsey.

Judge Katherine Thomas presided over Hill’s preliminary hearing in a Payne County district courtroom. Hill is charged with one felony count of domestic assault and battery by strangulation for allegedly assaulting his eight-week pregnant girlfriend on Dec. 11, 2014. According to the alleged victim, she had known she was pregnant three weeks prior to the alleged assault. The investigating detective found an ultrasound photo on a mirror in Hill’s room at his apartment.

Assistant District Attorney Lynn Hermanson called two witnesses – alleged victim Crystal Espinal and Sergeant Kyle Bruce of the Stillwater Police Department – to the stand. Espinal described the events before, during and after the alleged assault occurred.

According to Espinal, it was common for she and Hill to hang out at the other’s residence, to the point she kept clothes at his apartment. The night of the incident, Espinal said she and Hill planned to go to the movies at about 8 or 9 p.m., and Hill decided to take a shower.

Before taking a shower, Hill took Espinal’s phone and looked through it, which Espinal said from the witness stand was not normal for Hill to do. Espinal said she discovered this because her phone is synced with her Mac through iCloud, which led to her discovering Hill was texting people with her phone.

Espinal said she knocked on the bathroom door because she wanted her phone back, at which point Hill opened the door, gave her the phone and closed it again.

According to Espinal, when Hill left the bathroom, he was upset and would not talk to Espinal. Espinal later said while being questioned Hill was upset because someone (Espinal did not specify who) texted her saying Hill had been “hitting on high schoolers.”

Espinal said she then sat on a chair and used her laptop while Hill sat on the bed, waiting for Hill to talk. Hill then allegedly went over to the chair, took her laptop and threw it into the hallway. Espinal took her phone out, and Hill threw it into the hallway as well.

When Espinal, who said she was only wearing a T-shirt and panties at the time, got up to retrieve her belongings, Hill closed the door and left her in the hallway. Hill had previously told her twice to leave the apartment.

When Hill’s attorney, Ramsey, asked Espinal why she didn’t leave, she said she did not want to leave without wearing any pants and did not want Hill’s roommates – who were there at the time but have not been called as witnesses – to see her not wearing pants.

Espinal said she then opened the door, which was unlocked, to retrieve the rest of her belongings; it was at this point Hill pushed her onto the bed and began to punch her in the left eye. When she tried to get up and push him off her, Hill allegedly used on arm to put her in a choke hold for longer than a minute, which caused her to have trouble breathing.

Once Hill let go of her, Espinal said she collapsed to the ground as she tried to regain her breath. Hill then allegedly grabbed her shirt to try to pull her, but it tore. Hill then grabbed her by the hair and began to punch the left side of her stomach. Espinal said she told Hill to stop because she feared for the life of her child.

Hill then allegedly pushed her against the wall and, with both hands, grabbed her neck and began to hit her head against the wall. Espinal said she had no trouble breathing at this time. Once Hill stopped, he left the room for 5-10 minutes and was on the phone with his grandmother, according to Espinal. Espinal then called her friend to pick her up and also called her aunt to inform her of what had happened.

Espinal’s friend then picked her up and drove her to the hospital, where she was treated for her injuries. Later, Bruce – who is a sergeant in SPD’s investigation unit and has done investigation work for six years – was contacted by the district attorney’s office to look into the matter.

This led to Bruce contacting Espinal by phone, arranging a meeting at her apartment on campus at OSU and taking photos of her injuries. Bruce also obtained a search warrant to retrieve Espinal’s torn shirt from Hill’s apartment, at which point he noticed the ultrasound photo on Hill’s mirror. Bruce said neither Hill nor Espinal’s phones were examined for information or damage.

The defense tried several times to cast Espinal’s story and injuries in doubt. Ramsey attempted to establish that the bruises came from Espinal and Hill having rough sexual intercourse; some of the bruises came the day after the alleged assault occurred, and the couple had sexual intercourse about an hour before Hill decided to take a shower, according to Espinal. Espinal said she had gotten hickeys and bruises before during sexual intercourse with Hill, but these bruises were unrelated.

Ramsey also asked Espinal several times whether she had been to a psychologist for self-mutilation before, but Thomas overruled the questioning as it was not relevant to the case.

Thomas found probable cause despite the defense’s attempts to prove the evidence provided was not sufficient and the lack of witnesses. Hill will go on trial April 17 and will face a prison sentence of one to three years and/or a $3,000 fine.

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You're right. Vermeil catch was "Profile Guys". Good catch.

Any way you slice it, it's pretty ****ed up for a franchise that has had two players kill the mother of their children draft a guy who punched and choked the putative mother of his child.

espn should do a sports science segment on punching and choking pregnant women

Jeezus, if this is true, what in the actual **** was Dorsey thinking.

chiefs might have to walk away from this one


really can't believe dorsey and clark thought this was worth it....

Holy Shitballs, I'm beside myself as why Dorsey would draft this guy, let alone, Clark Hunt signing off and not overuling.

I couldn't care less about a guy smoking weed.

But this is Ray Rice shit.

It's stunning

This is much worse than Ray Rice shit. This isn't a guy getting pissed and taking a swing (which is indefensible on its own). This is someone not only taking a swing, but then choking a pregnant woman for close to a minute.

It's as bad as any DV case in the league that hasn't involved murder.

I dunno man. I was in a shit relationship once where the lady kicked my shower door down and came at me with a 12' Cutco knife. I grabbed her wrist, completely naked mind you, and slammed it against the wall jarring the knife to the floor. I was almost ****ed. This story might be embellished.

Very interesting (but not very informative) Dorsey press conference. First 10-15 minutes alone are about Tyreke Hill.

For those who don't want to listen, here's what Dorsey basically says: "Trust me."

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...c-90e1d8adc228

This dudes high school highlight tape is insane! Also has the worst music ever, but his tape is nuts!

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This is Judgemental Planet! Everyone saw first hand what Hill did!


Oh, and every time he makes a play, the fanbase will boo and/or boycott the Chiefs brand.

I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. Truly.

But this bastard should have walked out of the room, counted to 30 and left.

You don't choke people for more than 60 seconds (or better yet, at all) or punch a woman in the stomach, let alone, a pregnant woman.

This is as bad of a draft decision that I can recall.

Tyson Jackson was the biggest piece of shit decision at #3 overall and I'm on record stating it was the worst choice in Chiefs Franchise History.

But holy crap, Dorsey just surpassed the Tyson ****ing Dillweed Dumbshit Jackson pick.

If they intend on keeping him, you'd think the only way they would escape long term bad blood would be to put the kid in front of a mic, have him tell his story to the fullest, and then proceed to get hammered by the media. And even THAT likely wouldn't be enough. Like I said earlier, people calling in to 810 were pissed about the pick.

Dorsey seems to think people are concerned he will do it again. People don't want a guy who has done that even once on their favorite football team. He doesn't get it.

He plead guilty.

If that's not an indictment of his behavior...

His actions as a human being are the only thing that will help him in the eyes of the fanbase.

Oh, and if he scores a shitload of touchdowns.

I don't get how the Chiefs haven't learned from what Belcher did.

Dumbfounded.

Everyone wants a saint in a pretty violent sport.

I could have done without the guy though. It's not like he's a high pick.

I am not defending him.


It's going to be very interesting seeing the reaction of all these angry fans if Hill produces. That's all.

There are lines you can't cross. If he got in a bar fight with another dude, not great but forgivable. What he did crossed the line.

Terez Paylor asked: "Why even take the risk on a person who has done something terrible like this? What's the benefit to the team?"

Andy Reid responded: "It's about the human element. I went through this with Michael Vick. It's about reaching out and helping someone... yadda yadda"

I wonder what kind of reception he'll get from the team the first time he walks into the locker room....

Oh, I agree that the casual fan will be willing to bend over and take it up the ass a few times after he scores his first TD on a return but holy shit, this was just a bad idea.

It's a shame Belcher isn't around to show him the ropes.

Or Bam Morris.

Or Tamarick Vanover.

****, I hate this pick and I should have zero emotions for a 5th rounder.

It's uncharacteristic for sure. Easy cut though.

I don't get it either. No, I DO get it, but I can't see how they quantified it.

They shouldn't be cutting a 5th round selection for something they knew about months in advance.

It was just a bad idea all around.

Larry johnson

Oh yeah, I forgot to add St. Larry.

I'm STILL pissed Peterson passed on Polamalu, traded down and took LJ.

I honestly couldn't care less what the character of the players are. Even the "good"character guys are often hiding a lot of baggage. (Marvin Harrison being the prime example here) The guy made a horrible life decision, but if he helps us win football games, then I really don't give a shit what he does/ has done in his spare time.

EDIT: Unless he continues beating women - then he'll be suspended and shunned from the NFL, and rightfully so.

If this logic had truth to it, then Reid would be trying to sign Manziel.

That's because you're dumber than a mosquito

The ironic part is that they would likely catch less critical shit over signing Manziel than this guy.

Really a 12 foot knife? Thats one big ass knife was her name Andretta the Giant?

I think the circumstances are a little different but there's no justifying this pick.

UDFA? Maybe.

5th rounder?

Nope.

Manziel still has an active case. No team will consider him while it's active.

I think I'm making a fully logical point here. No silliness or trolling involved.

LMAO

I always screw that up. But in the end, I called 911 and I almost went to jail over it as she had signs of abuse from me slamming her hand against the wall. Hill should not have been in that situation, but I take her story with a grain of salt. And feel shitty doing so.

She probably got pissed when she found out you didn't have a 1 foot cock.

Yeah, but I thought it was about trying to help someone. This is why Reid's logic falls apart. He's picking and choosing who he wants to help based upon who can help him win football games right now, just like he did with QB Dog Killer. That's fine, but I'd rather he just have the sand to admit it.

Nine is fine.

He will help them with their problems if they are immensely talented.

1 foot cock.......12 foot knife.....


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LMAO

His son must not have been talented...

Exactly. Which makes him full of shit, because it's not about the human element, it's about wins and losses. So just say it.

But did she do anal? I'm gonna put 50 chips on yes. Any chick crazy enough to come at you with a 12 foot knife most likely loves taking it in the poop chute.

In all seriousness, you make one hell of a good point.

Teams just typically don't sign guys that have pending legal issues. I wouldn't rule out Andy taking him when it's finally cleared up.

Only because the chick that Manziel "allegedly" beat up wasn't pregnant

He's huge in Japan

It was this sombitch

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj..._id=880000500F

Great knife.

Who, Manziel?

Her account is pretty damning, to say the least. Sure, there's probably some embellishment, i.e. A minute choke hold, etc. but if she has marks on her throat or he really did choke her for even 10 seconds, it's pretty disturbing. So unless the embellishments are grossly over exaggerating in pursuit of a payday they matter.

It's just football though, and I don't watch it for character references or influences. He's literally on probation for the crime, legally and also figuratively for the team and fanbase, IMO. One misstep and he's gone.....

Damn thats horrible. Punching your GF in the stomach who is pregnant? Thats pretty damn high on the scumbag scale.

It's a ****ed up world Mr. Hamas.


Reid would rather lie, and most fans would rather hear him lie so that they can rationalize the situation and sleep at night.


Human nature is a bitch.

Yeah. Think it was well known that Andy wanted him 2 years ago.

nO ONE WILL cArE ABouT THIS IF hE BEASTs IT.

I said it in the other thread, I'm pretty sure the fans and the coaches would be able to justify drafting Hitler if he had a high enough pSPARQ score.

The Arizona Cardinals GM said last year that teams could justify Hannibal Lector's cannibalism as an "Eating Disorder if he ran a 4.3 40.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ating-disorder

Just an awful pick. Especially coming off the Greg Hardy incident from last year. Any chance the victims photos surfacing and it's just a huge distraction for the organization. This guy is just bad news and a piece of shit.

The key difference is Manziel doesn't want help. He's basically given the middle finger to anyone who's offered it so far.

I don't think this guy has truly learned his lesson, either.

He eventually stopped so what's the problem?

Kobe Bryant is celebrated like he's an American hero even though he anally raped a woman in Colorado how many years ago. If this kid becomes the next Devin Hester no one is going to end up giving a shit about his past.

DT was allergic to rubber.

This is far different.

I know.

Just saying how the chiefs have had some guys in the past who've had some lady issues.

Nothing like this guy though and frankly, I'm pretty appalled at myself that I had any sort of justification for it after I read the actual report. .
Pretty damning

This is not even remotely the same

How is it not? Assaulting a woman isn't a big deal as long as it's with your dick instead of your hand?