I'd hate to do that, before he's even played a down at G in the NFL. I know he was good in college, but that would be a stretch.

He was? Then why was he switched to tackle?

Some people believe that he played guard in college because Monroe was better, but the reality was that they had more tackles than they had starting spots, and Monroe could not play inside. Albert could. So basically UVA tried to get the best 5 linemen that they had on the field the best way that they were able. I think we should approach 2013 the same way. What improves the line the most, as a whole? Moving Albert inside and starting Fisher at LT, with who exactly on the right side, maybe an interior lineman moving out? Or keep Albert and Fisher both outside, and leave the guards on the roster inside? I know what my answer is.

Allen and Stephenson are both tackles.

Based on last year, Allen was a failed tackle to guard conversion.

I think they need to put him at right tackle or sit him.

So is Albert. And he's 100% better tackle than they'll ever be so they should keep him there.

I don't see either of them as being in competition for starting spots either inside or outside.

I think if Albert inks a long term deal, he should be given the LT spot because he has earned it...but if he is here on a 1 year deal ONLY, put him at guard and start Fisher at left tackle.

The OL is all about technique and cohesiveness and if Albert is gone after one year, Eric Fisher needs to handle the left tackle position...whoever is the long term answer at the position needs to be playing it from day one.

I'm thinking the Albert trade talk all along has been mostly about public negotiation (by the team) for a long-term deal. But who knows.

Alex Smith should be comfortable behind that line (once they gel) and Jamaal Charles should challenge for the rushing record (average and yardage) for the foreseeable future...well, until he gets hurt.

I believe Albert is flying to KC to sign the long term deal that his agent has agreed upon.

If Smith can't produce behind this line, he should be yanked sooner rather than later. The rest of this team could actually build some momentum under the new staff, and giving Smith the "cassel golden safety net" would be a HUGE mistake for the productivity of anyone on this team who is not a rookie( did not live the nightmare ).
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Who do they pull him for? Chase Daniel? There isn't anybody.

Who you and I define as "nobody" doesn't matter in this instance. If our benevolent leaders have enough faith to hand the little ****er the keys to the number two spot, then absolutely throw his ass in the fire and see what cooks. They chose him, didn't they?
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It was dysfunctional. They fired Tannebaum, who was the one guy who was actually worse at his job than Peeholi was at his. He was truly horrendous and ruined a team that was in the AFC Championship game two years in a row just three years ago.

Geno has all the tools you look for in a potential franchise QB. Why he and the rest of the QB's slipped this year, I don't know. Barkley went in the fourth round this year and last year he was, without question, the third QB off the board behind Luck and Griffin. Matt Scott, the pre-draft darling of the mocksters, didn't even get picked and ended up as a UDFA.

Of the teams that "needed" QB's from an outsiders perspective, a lot of those made off-season moves like the Chiefs or decided to ride out their young QB's for another season (such as Jacksonville).

Sometimes a guy slips for whatever reason. Geno and Matt Barkley did and I think teams are going to end up regretting not taking them when the opportunity was there. There are 23 teams in the league that passed over Aaron Rogers and to a team, all of them would give their eye-teeth to have him on their roster now.

Alex Smith will be 29 in two days time. He's only completed two full seasons out of eight and is coming off a concussion injury this past season. He's a gutty, tough, smart QB, but one that isn't going to take the top off of a defense. And he's going to have to perform at a Pro Bowl level right off the bat if he's going to pay dividends for this team.

I get the Fisher pick. Load up with the best you can to help Alex Smith out up front and to open those lanes for Charles. Calculated, matriculating of the ball up and down the field. Both sides of the ball are built for such a game, but it needs to work right now. In that regard, Fisher is probably a better pick than Geno for that concept. How it plays out in the long run remains to be seen.

as long as the chiefs are winning, who gives a shit what his stats are. Wins are all that matter.

I believe Albert is flying to KC to sign the long term deal that his agent has agreed upon.

You are correct. And if he starts "Casseling" up the joint(can't complete a checkdown, folds under phantom pressure, stares down receivers and doesn't see other wide open and available targets etc.), then it's time to get the **** off the field, wouldn't you say?
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of all of our disagreements. I have been clear about that. If you arent winning, because we know that alex smith is not going to be a top 15 qb statistically, then its time to go another way. I completely agree. He has no excuses. He has a top oline, a top running back, a top receiver. 37 tight ends, and the defense will be improved. anything less than 10 wins, and alex smith failed.....

Good. Albert having a great season and buying in will be a turning point for this O line. Who gives a damn where the rookie plays for now?
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Unfortunately for us teams don't hire backups because they think they can take over the starter's job. They hire them because they think they can fill in temporarily in an emergency.

best thing that can happen, is fisher at right, and albert at left. Put your best players on the field....

Per Sal Palantonio

2013 NFL 1st round draft picks Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher will both be making the move to right tackle.

This.
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Bet with Direckshun: Negated.
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not true...laz said so

Per Chiefsbeef

Albert than was talking to DT Anthony Toribio in the comments, and told him that he "will be there soon"

Don't puss out now. Playing RT never negated the bet.

sounds like Albert has finally decided to stop bitching and really try to get an extension done with the Chiefs

are 32 teams pining for Jimmy Clausen?

You can use Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson as examples...but there are hundreds of Clausens that I can use to paint the other picture.

Yes I think it does. That was for him playing LT. It is two different breeds.


It's like he will have to defend against T. Jack and not Tamba Hali in his first game. Big difference.

Hell no.

But Jimmy Clausen had fundamental flaws in his mechanics, physical tools and game time understanding that he wasn't going to be worth a shit as an NFL QB as far as I saw it.

Geno and Barkley both looked like very good NFL QB prospects, IMO.

fair enough

I just don't see how, in a QB league, a guy like Cam Newton can go 1st and then a guy like Geno doesn't if the only concern is him being a diva

they must think he's a diva...and he's not very good

who knows though

I personally feel that it was the Andrew Luck/Bobby Griffin let down.

Barkley was, without question, the third QB off the board in the 2012 Draft, but he falls to the 4th round in 2013? Geno should have been a Top 10 pick at worst and he goes at 39?

I don't get it either, but then, the collective wisdom of the NFL front offices, especially those teams that seem to always be drafting in the top 15 every single year, isn't the best measuring stick for rationality.

Cams got the size, speed, and arm over Geno, but I'd put their mental aspects in the same ballpark, and Geno gets the accuracy. I don't see how Geno will be able to be successful in NY though, you have to have some thick skin to play in that media hellhole. Plus the fact his team is going to be straight garbage his first few years, I see him being a FA in our near future.

Cam Newtons accuracy, is vastly underrated. he probably has one of the top 5 deep balls in the league.

About the only level of qbing they are equal on, is they are both awful with the Media. I dont think there is much doubt, that just about everyone would take Cam Newton over Geno Smith every day of the week. And twice on sundays....

The bet was predicated upon sacks given up as a rookie LT. I'd say that pretty much kills the bet.
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I'd definitely take Newton over Alice in exactly the scenario you just laid out, yes.
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Rotoworld OLine ranking, has KC 11th

You'll notice 2012 Run and Pass Block Rankings listed before each lineup projection. The first number is via Pro Football Focus. The second number is Football Outsiders' 2012 rating. While PFF and FO's data is relevant and valued, keep in mind the goal of this column is to project the effectiveness of 2013 NFL offensive lines, as opposed to rank them based solely upon what occurred last season.

The number in parentheses after each team name is that club's number of returning offensive line starters. The asterisk (*) denotes a new projected starter.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...-line-rankings

11. Kansas City Chiefs (3)

2012 Run Block Rankings: 8, 19
2012 Pass Block Rankings: 20, 27

LT: Branden Albert
LG: Jeff Allen
C: Rodney Hudson*
RG: Jon Asamoah
RT: Eric Fisher*
Super Sub: G/T Geoff Schwartz

Overview: Kansas City has pieces in place to field an impressive young line consisting of franchise player Albert, second-year guard Allen, third-year center Hudson, fourth-year right guard Asamoah, and No. 1 pick Fisher. Off the bench can come power blocker Schwartz and 2012 third-round pick Donald Stephenson, an athletically gifted tackle. While this group remains in heavy transition with plenty to prove, the player-by-player assembly rivals the league’s top offensive lines. The pass blocking should -- and needs to -- take a big step forward under historically pass-first coach Andy Reid as Fisher upgrades on Eric Winston and Allen improves in year two.



Note Denver #3, Oakland #30, San Diego #32

How'd we go from one thing to ten things in under two weeks?

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Lol good bump.

Didn't realize it was a bump at first. Thought Direkshun went plum crazy...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

We're headed in the other direction...

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The Direckshun?