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Whoa, whoa, whoa. I pegged Rothlisberger as the best QB in the 2004 draft before he taken by Pittsburgh. One of my best friends in Los Angeles has been a lifelong Pittsburgh fan was ecstatic when I told him that in 2004. Aaron Rodgers slipped because no one believed in Tedford QB's ability to translate in the NFL. He also sat for THREE YEARS, learning from Favre and Mike McCarthy. Is that what you're suggesting? The Chiefs take a guy at #1, only to sit him for three years? |
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4 years. Both Newton and Luck got 4 years 22M. |
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FTR, I'm not stating that's what I want to happen, nor do I expect it to happen. But with a QB class that at this time has no clear cut "Savior", it's definitely possible, IMO. |
I am pretty damn confident Reid will draft a QB at #1.
That whole Q&A thing, "Andy, you're going to a team without a QB WHATEVER WILL YOU DO???" "Well, they have the #1 overall pick..." The guy is thinking QB. He was thinking QB all season in Philly, assuming his team would need to draft a new guy. He's going to be thinking QB here. We're getting a QB at #1. Bank on it. |
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Thanks for the update. Point is, the pick is a fairly significant financial and symbolic commitment to build a team around. Reid won't take it lightly. He will draft a differene maker or trade down. If his QB isnt out there he won't just take the best QB if he's not deserving of the 1/1.
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Oh, we need a defensive lineman so let's get Freeman and Sims and Downey and Savaii and Dorsey and Jackson. |
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There is a damn good QB in this draft; there is in pretty much every draft. And the Chiefs must find him. |
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This draft isn't the 2000 draft when the only QB taken was Chad Pennington late in the 1st. It's not as good as 2012, either. And I don't think it's as good as 2004, either. It IS, however, better than 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, and 2005, though. That's pretty ****ing positive. These QBs are going to ****ing fly off the board. Expect at least 4 gone in the first round, with at least two in the top 10. |
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And when have the Chiefs ever reached for a valuable position? There's a huge difference between QB and 5-technique DT. I can't believe you're making this argument. |
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You may be wrong in terms of their quality. |
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When Andy Dalton, RGIII, Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck can lead their teams to the playoffs their rookie seasons, that's the new norm, IMO. Personally, I'm sick of the Chiefs choosing guys that take years to develop, if ever. |
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You know less about football than you do psychology, which is shocking in and of itself, Dumbass. |
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Smith, Wilson, and Barkley are all good prospects. |
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Wilson's team fell apart due to Petrino. There are some minor character questions. As I've said repeatedly, every time I've seen Smith, he was far less than impressive. Outside of this particular football forum, I can find no general consensus on any of the above players in regards to who is best suited for the NFL, let alone the #1 overall pick. I hope that The Combines provide more insight and guys to begin to separate but there's no guarantee. |
do chiefs fans ever get tired of coming up with reasons to not draft a QB?
jesus...y'all are the biggest collection of pussies imaginable... "oh noes...i only watched one football game all year and i didn't see joe montana...whatever will we do, pa?" "draft a mediocre lineman, son....or maybe a linebacker...for reasons not explained in the bible, that's not risky..." |
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I think its gonna be alot about Reid's system. Barkley, Wilson, or Smith fit in it pretty good. Look at RGIII. He's in the absolute perfect system for his style, same with R. Wilson. |
From what I have heard if Chip Kelly lands in Philly then Vick stays because he can run the zone read option and Foles would be on the market because he can't.
You do the math from there. Not too exciting since its the same pattern we seem to always follow. |
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Another question I haven't heard an answer to, lets say Reid drafts a QB, who in the draft is most suited to a WC style offense?
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I am guessing the new guys will want to do their own thing and get their own guy. |
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He'll adapt the offense to whoever he brings in. That is what I would expect from his background. |
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Andy Reid probably knows more than me about football, and he was really big as a 13 year-old. However, I probably know more about the Chiefs, and I was a very bright 13 year-old. It's time for the Chiefs franchise to draft a quarterback with a high 1st-round draft choice.
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smith, wilson, barkley could easily run a wc offense...the perception is that barkley is most suited (which is also a nice way of saying he has the weakest arm) |
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There have been only 2 or 3 QBs in the last 6 or 7 drafts, outside of Luck, that has a package of talent and intangibles that I like better than Smith. |
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Maybe 2007 would have been a bit better QB class: RD SEL # PLAYER 1 1 JaMarcus Russell 1 22 Brady Quinn 2 36 Kevin Kolb 2 40 John Beck 2 43 Drew Stanton 3 92 Trent Edwards 5 151 Jeff Rowe 5 174 Troy Smith 6 205 Jordan Palmer 7 217 Tyler Thigpen or 2002? 1 1 David Carr 1 3 Joey Harrington 1 32 Patrick Ramsey 3 81 Josh McCown 4 108 David Garrard 4 117 Rohan Davey 5 137 Randy Fasani 5 158 Kurt Kittner 5 163 Brandon Doman 5 164 Craig Nall 6 186 J.T. O'Sullivan 7 216 Seth Burford 7 232 Jeff Kelly 7 235 Ronald Curry 7 236 Wes Pate I haven't seen a year in recent history where there has been less hype for a No. 1 overall QB. In 2008 Matt Ryan was taken #3 overall. Bottom line, the Chiefs picked a real bad year to have the #1 pick. |
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#1 Tell me you'd rather have Sam Bradford over Geno Smith. I'll call you a moron. #2 Jamarcus Russell was proclaimed a brilliant #1 overall pick at QB by tons of draft gurus. Kiper ****ing loved that guy |
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What do Stafford, Bradford or Ryan have that Geno Smith doesn't?
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Catch more flies with honey. And not shitting on/being negative about every comment on CP. |
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Oh. Yeah, cute doggie. It makes the long walks more fun. Say hi to my wife for me. |
Down to 51 percent. Mount up Horsemen....
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Ryan was at BU and was consistent with lower competition. Geno at WV was less consistent than Ryan but has athletic upside. He's only 12 notches below Robert Griffin III in terms of mental and physical ability but since he resembles RGIII, the Chiefs will waste their No.1 pick on Geno? Not if the Walrus is in town... SNR's gonna be pissed. |
Over his career he was more consistent than Ryan
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You are being a buffoon Gadzooks. I doubt you've even seen him play. Stop listening to the sweet whispers of Kipers toupe.
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Yeah I would say Geno was more consistent
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Like I said, he's a buffoon. Geno is legit and the tape backs up the numbers.
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But don't then try to provide analysis. |
Where is the "JFC DO NOT VOTE VICK" option?
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I've watched 3 Geno games this season and have watched his stats throughout the season. I did the same thing with RGIII last year. My opinion is that Geno is no RGIII and Reid will be unlikely to pick him with the No. 1 pick. |
If Geno Smith had thrown 19 INTs as a senior, as Ryan did, he would probably be a 5th round pick among true fan dumbasses.
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I hope you guys hire Pioli. Dude was the five time Exec. of the ****ing Century. |
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