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penbrook 04-05-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9559499)
We get first dibs if the Chiefs want to absurd that contract and let the Raiders off the hook.

Yea 9 mil over the next 2 years.

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:29 PM

I wish we could get something for him but he is a total dumbass... Bad tackler, always out of position... Yall can have him, go for it

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:31 PM

He would only be worth league minimum salary in my mind to someone

Mr_Tomahawk 04-05-2013 02:34 PM

Arrowhead Pride‏@ArrowheadPride2m
Wow RT @MikeMSchwartz With waiving of Rolando McClain, Darren McFadden is only Raiders first-rounder from last 10 years still on roster.

The Bad Guy 04-05-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559502)
Yea 9 mil over the next 2 years.

No how, no way.

If he clears and they want to offer him a minimum salary, then fine.

Cephalic Trauma 04-05-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9559446)
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 46s

Raiders waiving LB Rolando McClain today.

You saw this 46 seconds after he posted it?

Holy shit man, where is your life right now?

penbrook 04-05-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9559543)
No how, no way.

If he clears and they want to offer him a minimum salary, then fine.

Yea but hes not gonna accept the league minimum.

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:40 PM

Raiders are projected to have 69 million dollars in cap space next year so you guys beat us while you can....

Sassy Squatch 04-05-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559561)
Yea but hes not gonna accept the league minimum.

So hell retire?

The Bad Guy 04-05-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559561)
Yea but hes not gonna accept the league minimum.

So then you don't sign him.

If you think he's worth 4.5 million a season, then you need your ****ing head checked.

There's linebackers we could take in the 3rd round better than him.

The Bad Guy 04-05-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559566)
Raiders are projected to have 69 million dollars in cap space next year so you guys beat us while you can....

So cap space = winning.

Got it.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-05-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9559550)
You saw this 46 seconds after he posted it?

Holy shit man, where is your life right now?


...and you finding out about it 10 minutes later is any better?

penbrook 04-05-2013 02:42 PM

The Raiders are a ****ing mess.

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559561)
Yea but hes not gonna accept the league minimum.

Then the loser can sit home and shoot at his friends...

NFL needs to quit paying shit players superstar salaries....

I bet the Raiders are BETTER this year than last year even without all those bloated contracts...

It would not even hurt my feelings if they traded DMC on draft day

Cephalic Trauma 04-05-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9559574)
...and you finding out about it 10 minutes later is any better?

Well, yeah.

It's either coincidental, or he was feverishly checking twitter for football updates like always.

Which was my point...

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559576)
The Raiders are a ****ing mess.

no they aren't , they are rebuilding this team the right way.. This team is in the best shape going forward it has been in 20 years.

Cephalic Trauma 04-05-2013 02:46 PM

I guess you can defend 1 first round draft pick from the last 10 years on the roster.

I don't know why anyone would, but keep trying.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-05-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9559580)
Well, yeah.

It's either coincidental, or he was feverishly checking twitter for football updates like always.

Which was my point...

Eh.

I guess I don't see it a big deal. It is all a matter of setup...He could be sitting at work pushing a mouse with work on one screen, and then CP/Twitter up on the other. This is my setup I commonly use throughout the day.

Tweet pops up while I am working...copy/paste on CP. Not tough.

RNR 04-05-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559576)
The Raiders are a ****ing mess.

The Raiders will be $69 million under the cap in 2014. There is a new sheriff in Oakland. McKenzie has cleaned house and the old ways are gone. This worthless shitbag is just the latest piece of trash to be taken out~

penbrook 04-05-2013 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNR (Post 9559589)
The Raiders will be $69 million under the cap in 2014. There is a new sheriff in Oakland. McKenzie has cleaned house and the old ways are gone. This worthless shitbag is just the latest piece of trash to be taken out~

Yes but no FA will want to come to OAK. Buying FA does not build your franchise.

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNR (Post 9559589)
The Raiders will be $69 million under the cap in 2014. There is a new sheriff in Oakland. McKenzie has cleaned house and the old ways are gone. This worthless shitbag is just the latest piece of trash to be taken out~

I LOVE what Reggie has done here... Every Single Move...

I feel good about Flynn because Reggie was in the draft room when they took him and I know he knows what he is going to get with him...

I am going out on a limb but he will easily be the best QB for this team since Gannon

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559602)
Yes but no FA will want to come to OAK. Buying FA does not build your franchise.

Stupid statement based on nothing but hate... Any player will go anywhere if the money is what they want.

Wake the **** up man

RNR 04-05-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559602)
Yes but no FA will want to come to OAK. Buying FA does not build your franchise.

Read what you just posted LMAO

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:52 PM

Reggie will build this team through the draft mainly with a few carfully selected F/A's sprinkled in... This is not the Al Davis way anymore this is the Reggie show now and this guy knows how to pick football players and work the cap..

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559566)
Raiders are projected to have 69 million dollars in cap space next year so you guys beat us while you can....

Players have to want to come to Oakland. Go ahead and blow big money in free agency. It doesn't work. If you can't draft you are ****ed and up shit creek and stuck.

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9559617)
Players have to want to come to Oakland. Go ahead and blow big money in free agency. It doesn't work. If you can't draft you are ****ed and up shit creek and stuck.

Like KC?

RNR 04-05-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559604)
I LOVE what Reggie has done here... Every Single Move...

I feel good about Flynn because Reggie was in the draft room when they took him and I know he knows what he is going to get with him...

I am going out on a limb but he will easily be the best QB for this team since Gannon

I will hope for the best with Flynn. Anyone who is paying attention to what is going on in Oakland understands he is building for the long haul. No quick fix bullshit anymore. People can talk trash if they wish but the change is apparent to those who are watching objectively~

penbrook 04-05-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559621)
Like KC?

Yes actually. Most of our starters have been drafted by the Chiefs. The Raiders only have one player still on their roster that was drafted within the last 10 years.

penbrook 04-05-2013 02:57 PM

We really dont have any needs so Im hoping Dorsey drafts the Choco Penii.

Cephalic Trauma 04-05-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9559587)
Eh.

I guess I don't see it a big deal. It is all a matter of setup...He could be sitting at work pushing a mouse with work on one screen, and then CP/Twitter up on the other. This is my setup I commonly use throughout the day.

Tweet pops up while I am working...copy/paste on CP. Not tough.

OK SO SORRY

Jeez, people on this board get so worked up about the littlest shit.

RNR 04-05-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559630)
Yes actually. Most of our starters have been drafted by the Chiefs. The Raiders only have one player still on their roster that was drafted within the last 10 years.

How is that been working out for you?

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559630)
Yes actually. Most of our starters have been drafted by the Chiefs. The Raiders only have one player still on their roster that was drafted within the last 10 years.

And that equated to how many playoff wins and superbowls since people were walking with boom boxes on their shoulders?

How has that worked out?

Please do tell how superior your team is to mine and how mine has done everything wrong since day 1 yet they have more total wins vs the NFL, 3 times the superbowls and god only knows how many more playoff wins...

Please do tell

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNR (Post 9559634)
How is that been working out for you?

Not too good :facepalm:

penbrook 04-05-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNR (Post 9559634)
How is that been working out for you?

Its been working out fairly good. All 6 of our pro bowlers were drafted by the Chiefs. How many pro bowlers did you have.

Now that we have a legit qb were taking it all.

Cephalic Trauma 04-05-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNR (Post 9559634)
How is that been working out for you?

I think we have a solid roster going into next year, and we still have a good core. We don't have Romeo/Daboll to **** it up.

You?

Oh right, you have "Reggie".

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559630)
Yes actually. Most of our starters have been drafted by the Chiefs. The Raiders only have one player still on their roster that was drafted within the last 10 years.

Chiefs won 2 games this year... How many players should ACTUALLY be on this team this year... Oh I know, it's all Cassels fault....


Cassel is going to expose how weak the Chiefs actually were last year, watch and see

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559648)
Chiefs won 2 games this year... How many players should ACTUALLY be on this team this year... Oh I know, it's all Cassels fault....


Cassel is going to expose how weak the Chiefs actually were last year, watch and see

:facepalm: It was Cassel and coaching staff incompetence. Actually, we've been exposing how weak Cassel was.

penbrook 04-05-2013 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559648)
Chiefs won 2 games this year... How many players should ACTUALLY be on this team this year... Oh I know, it's all Cassels fault....


Cassel is going to expose how weak the Chiefs actually were last year, watch and see

Actually believe it or not it was mostly our qbs fault mixed in with terrible coaching.

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 03:05 PM

Bottom line is the Chiefs and the Raiders are currently SHIT and will remain SHIT until proven otherwise but to keep rehashing the same ole same ole shit.. Salary cap blah blah blah, Overpaid players blah blah blah , stupid trades blah blah blah when your team has had less success than the one you are spewing about is stupid....

You live in a glass house, you have nothing to talk shit about the Raiders... NADA

RNR 04-05-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559641)
Its been working out fairly good. All 6 of our pro bowlers were drafted by the Chiefs. How many pro bowlers did you have.

Now that we have a legit qb were taking it all.

Whatever scooter a Raiders fan and a Chiefs fan talking trash to each other only draws laughter from most every other teams fans. One more question though. How have your pro bowlers faired against Oakland? Where were you in 2006? If you were at Arrowhead you saw the last game KC beat Oakland at home~

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559668)
Bottom line is the Chiefs and the Raiders are currently SHIT and will remain SHIT until proven otherwise but to keep rehashing the same ole same ole shit.. Salary cap blah blah blah, Overpaid players blah blah blah , stupid trades blah blah blah when your team has had less success than the one you are spewing about is stupid....

You live in a glass house, you have nothing to talk shit about the Raiders... NADA

You likewise.

Cephalic Trauma 04-05-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559668)
Bottom line is the Chiefs and the Raiders are currently SHIT and will remain SHIT until proven otherwise but to keep rehashing the same ole same ole shit.. Salary cap blah blah blah, Overpaid players blah blah blah , stupid trades blah blah blah when your team has had less success than the one you are spewing about is stupid....

You live in a glass house, you have nothing to talk shit about the Raiders... NADA

Oakland is a shithole and their fans are convicts.

Boom.

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9559680)
Oakland is a shithole and their fans are convicts.

I mean Boom.

FYP

http://images.watoday.com.au/2012/12...l2-620x349.jpg

RNR 04-05-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9559654)
:facepalm: It was Cassel and coaching staff incompetence. Actually, we've been exposing how weak Cassel was.

When talking to fans like you that don't go stupid I will hold a conversation. In all honesty I do think KC has some pretty solid building blocks in place~

penbrook 04-05-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNR (Post 9559688)
When talking to fans like you that don't go stupid I will hold a conversation. In all honesty I do think KC has some pretty solid building blocks in place~

Than in your opinion what positions do you think the Chiefs need to improve on

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNR (Post 9559688)
When talking to fans like you that don't go stupid I will hold a conversation. In all honesty I do think KC has some pretty solid building blocks in place~

We've missed on the most important piece. QB. We have some pieces but time is ticking on our veteran core.

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559661)
Actually believe it or not it was mostly our qbs fault mixed in with terrible coaching.

Yea ok and the only thing wrong with the Raiders were the zone blocking scheme and a rookie coach...

Carson is gone, but I love to see people bash him when he put up 4018 yards passing in 14 games and a qtr... When everybody in the stadium knew all he was going to do was pass...

Carson is a big hit away from retirement and we paid way too much for him but that regime is over...

We had no defense at all last year and still won twice as many games, weak receivers or decent ones on IR...

Replacing Cassel with Smiff is NOT a cure for the Chiefs unless Andy Reid sees something no one else does...

raiders 6/10 Chiefs 6/10 this year.. Bank on it

penbrook 04-05-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559701)
Yea ok and the only thing wrong with the Raiders were the zone blocking scheme and a rookie coach...

Carson is gone, but I love to see people bash him when he put up 4018 yards passing in 14 games and a qtr... When everybody in the stadium knew all he was going to do was pass...

Carson is a big hit away from retirement and we paid way too much for him but that regime is over...

We had no defense at all last year and still won twice as many games, weak receivers or decent ones on IR...

Replacing Cassel with Smiff is NOT a cure for the Chiefs unless Andy Reid sees something no one else does...

raiders 6/10 Chiefs 6/10 this year.. Bank on it

Reid will see Geno as the savior. Plus Jamaal put up 1500+ Yards when everybody knew we were gonna run.

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559697)
Than in your opinion what positions do you think the Chiefs need to improve on

Chiefs were predictable as hell last year and if I can see it you know anybody else can...

Raiders had the weakest D I have ever seen in my life last year and we still owned the Chiefs

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559714)
Reid will see Geno as the savior. Plus Jamaal put up 1500+ Yards when everybody knew we were gonna run.

Well good luck to you .. Now go get McClain... He is a perfect fit in KC:D

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559719)
Chiefs were predictable as hell last year and if I can see it you know anybody else can...

Raiders had the weakest D I have ever seen in my life last year and we still owned the Chiefs

Yes, because we had the worst QB play and coaching staff.

penbrook 04-05-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559719)
Chiefs were predictable as hell last year and if I can see it you know anybody else can...

Raiders had the weakest D I have ever seen in my life last year and we still owned the Chiefs

Yes because Cassell couldnt throw a ****ing pass and while were at it lets ask the coach why our best player on the team in Charles only got 5 carries. It seriously was the qb and terrible coaching.

The Bad Guy 04-05-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559621)
Like KC?

What big money did they blow on free agents?

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 03:17 PM

You can quit fighting the Raider fans now. It's a pissing match between the crippled.

RNR 04-05-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9559714)
Reid will see Geno as the savior. Plus Jamaal put up 1500+ Yards when everybody knew we were gonna run.

I sincerely hope KC takes Smith~

Fritz88 04-05-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9559532)
Arrowhead Pride‏@ArrowheadPride2m
Wow RT @MikeMSchwartz With waiving of Rolando McClain, Darren McFadden is only Raiders first-rounder from last 10 years still on roster.

ROFL
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Fritz88 04-05-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9559726)
What big money did they blow on free agents?

Logic. Raiders fans don't have it.
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Red Dawg 04-05-2013 04:15 PM

Hell yes to this guy. We would be super stacked on d.

Sully 04-05-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9559604)

I feel good about Flynn because Reggie was in the draft room when they took him and I know he knows what he is going to get with him...

Something very familiar about this quote... Can't quite put my finger on it... Where have I heard this line of thinking before?

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 9560180)
Something very familiar about this quote... Can't quite put my finger on it... Where have I heard this line of thinking before?

P I O L I

Sassy Squatch 04-05-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9560353)
P I O L I

Reported.

Mother****erJones 04-05-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9560357)
Reported.

ROFL

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-05-2013 05:44 PM

Is it the player or the team that drafted them. It happens so ****ing often you really have to wonder. If Peyton Manning was drafted by the Browns he may already be out of the league.

Hootie 04-05-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 9560378)
Is it the player or the team that drafted them. It happens so ****ing often you really have to wonder. If Peyton Manning was drafted by the Browns he may already be out of the league.

? The colts weren't really a power franchise by any means

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-05-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9560388)
? The colts weren't really a power franchise by any means

Didn't save Mora's ass. The new GM already had a hella rap.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-05-2013 08:31 PM

Poor old Crohn....
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-05-2013 08:33 PM

Oakland: where fresh young talent rots on the vine and careers go to die.
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notorious 04-05-2013 08:46 PM

We have been getting anally raped by the Raiders for a while now. We have not shit-talking ground to stand on.

MeatRock 04-05-2013 08:48 PM

Chiefs are first on the waiver wire claim right?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-05-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9560667)
We have been getting anally raped by the Raiders for a while now. We have not shit-talking ground to stand on.

Sobering thought: Herm was the last coach to somehat split the series with them. Herm.
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penbrook 04-05-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9560671)
Chiefs are first on the waiver wire claim right?

Yep. But were not gonna claim Mcclain and his 4 mil cap hit this year.

keg in kc 04-05-2013 08:51 PM

One of the many guys I've been wrong about in the draft over the years.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-05-2013 08:52 PM

Andy will return us to Schottenhiemer standards. Alex...will keep us...at Schottenhiemer standards. Do you see what I did there?
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BossChief 04-05-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9560682)
One of the many guys I've been wrong about in the draft over the years.

This.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 04-05-2013 10:29 PM

I think Routt & Boss have proven the argument that "They were just bad because they were on the Raiders" isn't necessarily true. Let's put that theory to rest.

Tombstone RJ 04-05-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 9560796)
I think Routt & Boss have proven the argument that "They were just bad because they were on the Raiders" isn't necessarily true. Let's put that theory to rest.

but it is true!

Dave Lane 04-05-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9560682)
One of the many guys I've been wrong about in the draft over the years.

I got this one right but have plenty of misses on my ledger.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 04-05-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9560812)
but it is true!

Let's see:

Jason Campbell: Didn't do well in limited playing time with Bears, looked much better in OAK
Stanford Routt: Released by KC
Kevin Boss: Released by KC?
Kyle Boller: Retired
JaMarcus Russell: Fail
Rolondo McClain: No one offering anything for him
DHB: Now on Colts, too early to make a judgement
Nhamdi Asomugh(?) - didn't do much with Eagles, signed to SF at 1m/1yr
Carson Palmer: Didn't do much after injury with Bengals, Didn't do much in Oakland
Michael Bush: Wasn't bad in Oak
Mike Goodson: Wasn't bad in Oak
Schilens: With Jets(?)
Demarcus Van Dyke: What has he done yet?

I can think in recent history of Charles Woodson, who went on to be a productive member on another team.

Do you think just maybe, some of these guys are just busts?

R8RFAN 04-05-2013 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 9560836)
Let's see:

Jason Campbell: Didn't do well in limited playing time with Bears, looked much better in OAK
Stanford Routt: Released by KC
Kevin Boss: Released by KC?
Kyle Boller: Retired
JaMarcus Russell: Fail
Rolondo McClain: No one offering anything for him
DHB: Now on Colts, too early to make a judgement
Nhamdi Asomugh(?) - didn't do much with Eagles, signed to SF at 1m/1yr
Carson Palmer: Didn't do much after injury with Bengals, Didn't do much in Oakland
Michael Bush: Wasn't bad in Oak
Mike Goodson: Wasn't bad in Oak
Schilens: With Jets(?)
Demarcus Van Dyke: What has he done yet?

I can think in recent history of Charles Woodson, who went on to be a productive member on another team.

Do you think just maybe, some of these guys are just busts?

They are bitter dumbasses

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-06-2013 05:51 AM

A decade can condense fairly easily, I see :Poke:


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