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Anyong Bluth 06-08-2012 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 8668016)
the ending was pretty badass. I do hope we get a sequel.

See, that's where I think it shows such promise as this is the start of its own storyline arc.

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jiveturkey 06-08-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 8667986)
I want to go watch it again RIGHT NOW. And i'm 1 hour removed from the ending credits.

same here. There's a couple of things I need to pay closer attention to.

L.A. Chieffan 06-08-2012 05:06 PM

Just got out, incredible.

Imax 3D was WELL worth it.

How the **** do you do spoiler tags?

Bowser 06-08-2012 05:45 PM

Holy shit. Great film.

If this movie doesn't win an Academy Award for visuals, there shouldn't BE an award for visuals.

Bowser 06-08-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8668105)
Just got out, incredible.

Imax 3D was WELL worth it.

How the **** do you do spoiler tags?

Like so - just surround the text with [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ]. Just don't have a space between the [ and ].

And this is an actual spoiler, here -

Spoiler!

Sure-Oz 06-08-2012 06:05 PM

Saw it earlier...makes me want to see it in imax 3d. Some cool visual shit for sure...and def. leaves you with more questions than answers

Johnny Vegas 06-08-2012 06:11 PM

haven't seen it yet but the trailer reminds me of mass effect.

007 06-08-2012 06:50 PM

Really surprised at all the 3D love here. The general consensus here has always been don't waste your money on 3D. Is it really that good?

Frazod 06-08-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8668394)
Really surprised at all the 3D love here. The general consensus here has always been don't waste your money on 3D. Is it really that good?

Most times it's just gimmicky shit - I saw MIB3 in 2D it was obvious what the 3D shots were. Seeing that in 3D would have been a waste of money.

From everything I've heard, this is more in the Avatar range. That was a shitty movie, but the 3D was breathtaking.

007 06-08-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8668400)
Most times it's just gimmicky shit - I saw MIB3 in 2D it was obvious what the 3D shots were. Seeing that in 3D would have been a waste of money.

From everything I've heard, this is more in the Avatar range. That was a shitty movie, but the 3D was breathtaking.

We watched MiB3 in 3D because we didn't really have a choice and I didn't really have a problem with it. Got a real kick out of seeing the scenes on top of the Empire State Building.

Frazod 06-08-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8668408)
We watched MiB3 in 3D because we didn't really have a choice and I didn't really have a problem with it. Got a real kick out of seeing the scenes on top of the Empire State Building.

Well, if your cheap ass ponied up for 3D on that, you should definitely watch Prometheus in 3D! :D

Easy 6 06-08-2012 07:10 PM

I better go see this movie before i get sick of it.

These Coors Light tie-in commercials are killing it for me.

007 06-08-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8668421)
Well, if your cheap ass ponied up for 3D on that, you should definitely watch Prometheus in 3D! :D

I probably will now with all these glowing reviews. I just wish we had a damn Imax in topeka.

KevB 06-08-2012 07:21 PM

I am doing the IMAX3D in Olathe later tonight.....can't wait.

Anyong Bluth 06-08-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8668400)
Most times it's just gimmicky shit - I saw MIB3 in 2D it was obvious what the 3D shots were. Seeing that in 3D would have been a waste of money.

From everything I've heard, this is more in the Avatar range. That was a shitty movie, but the 3D was breathtaking.

Agreed on all points. Best use of 3D since Avatar, IMO.


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Buck 06-08-2012 08:02 PM

I don't really care about 3D, but the only way to see this on the big IMAX screen was to see it in 3D.

Far and away the best 3D film I've seen.

I think I've only seen 3 (Up, The Avengers, and Prometheus).

They were all very good in 3D, but this time I literally felt like Michael Fassbender's face was within reaching distance...

That being said, as long as you take the "Alien" element out of this movie, it's a really good sci-fi thriller. I guess it sets up for a sequel, but who knows...

Okay here's some things I'm thinking about in spoiler tags.

Spoiler!

007 06-08-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8668505)
I don't really care about 3D, but the only way to see this on the big IMAX screen was to see it in 3D.

Far and away the best 3D film I've seen.

I think I've only seen 3 (Up, The Avengers, and Prometheus).

They were all very good in 3D, but this time I literally felt like Michael Fassbender's face was within reaching distance...

That being said, as long as you take the "Alien" element out of this movie, it's a really good sci-fi thriller. I guess it sets up for a sequel, but who knows...

Okay here's some things I'm thinking about in spoiler tags.

Spoiler!

Ummm, why not Charlize Theron's face?

Buck 06-08-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8668535)
Ummm, why not Charlize Theron's face?

Did you see the movie yet?

Spoiler!

007 06-08-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8668545)
Did you see the movie yet?

Spoiler!

Nope. I'm just giving you shit. heh

I know what you mean though. I went to see U23D in Imax a couple years ago and it felt like I could just reach out and grab the mic from Bono.

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8667968)
All these reviews are making me very happy. PBJ

You will hate it because some stuff isn't explained fully, or doesn't appear to make sense, and likely wasn't intended to. ROFL

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8668228)
Like so - just surround the text with [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ]. Just don't have a space between the [ and ].

And this is an actual spoiler, here -

Spoiler!

Yes,
Spoiler!

Buck 06-08-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat (Post 8668715)
Yes,
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8668505)
Okay here's some things I'm thinking about in spoiler tags.

Spoiler!

Spoiler!

NewChief 06-08-2012 10:13 PM

Okay. I haven't watched this movie or really followed its creation despite loving the Aliens franchise. All that being said, the ideas put forth in it really really remind me of a book called The Sparrow

Check it out. Seriously. Wonderful book about First Contact and what it all means if that contact isn't benevolent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sparrow_(novel)

Bowser 06-08-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8668723)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Buck 06-08-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat (Post 8668725)
Spoiler!

Damn, I need to watch the movie again. I completely forgot about the stuff you brought up in #2.

As for #1, I just read something interesting on FO that

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 10:17 PM

The fact that people are still wondering about all this shit is pissing a lot of people off. LMAO

Everything is not supposed to be fully explained.

But to me it was pretty obvious that was a "planet seeding" ritual.

Buck 06-08-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8668732)
Spoiler!

I think I like Clay's argument better.

Spoiler!

Buck 06-08-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat (Post 8668744)
The fact that people are still wondering about all this shit is pissing a lot of people off. LMAO

Everything is not supposed to be fully explained.

But to me it was pretty obvious that was a "planet seeding" ritual.

Every good story should leave some doubt.

Especially when you can make money off of a sequel...

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 10:19 PM

In fact, according to some early drafts of Prometheus, Scott wanted Jesus to be an Engineer, which sounds really stupid.

Buck 06-08-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat (Post 8668751)
In fact, according to some early drafts of Prometheus, Scott wanted Jesus to be an Engineer, which sounds really stupid.

That is really ****ing stupid.

He already put too much religion into the movie as it was.

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8668746)
I think I like Clay's argument better.

Spoiler!

It's not that they thought we were "bad."

This is part of the point the movie is trying to make.

David is a human creation, and yet Vickers
Spoiler!


Have you ever made something, decided it was shit, and then gotten rid of it? Like, perhaps a dish of food, or a painting, or an essay?

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8668752)
That is really ****ing stupid.

He already put too much religion into the movie as it was.

Ridley Scott is not infallible.

He's had some really stupid ideas. ROFL

In fact, at the end of the original Alien, he wanted the Xenomorph to survive, eat Ripley's head, and record the final log in her voice.

Buck 06-08-2012 10:26 PM

I'm going to rewatch the movie next week.

Bowser 06-08-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat (Post 8668761)
Ridley Scott is not infallible.

He's had some really stupid ideas. ROFL

In fact, at the end of the original Alien, he wanted the Xenomorph to survive, eat Ripley's head, and record the final log in her voice.

:spock:

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 11:24 PM

Why Ridley Scott is still awesome:

Spoiler!

Sure-Oz 06-08-2012 11:42 PM

I will likely see this again after reading some of this stuff. I like that it makes me think...stoked for another

The main actress chick is cute too and shes the dragon tattoo chick in the foreign flicks

Hammock Parties 06-08-2012 11:49 PM

Great reading right here:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...r=170#lastpost

Hammock Parties 06-09-2012 02:19 AM

Holy shit, Ridley Scott, you loveable arse:

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The planet is LV223...Leviticus 22:3

"Say to them: 'For the generations to come, if any of your descendants is ceremonially unclean and yet comes near the sacred offerings that the Israelites consecrate to the LORD, that person must be cut off from my presence. I am the LORD.

Buck 06-09-2012 10:35 AM

I had a dream last night that

Spoiler!

Bowser 06-09-2012 10:40 AM

Spoiler!

Buck 06-09-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8669258)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

RINGLEADER 06-09-2012 11:24 AM

Prometheus was one of the biggest steaming piles I have ever seen. Had such high hopes for it and it basically went dumbnuts from the opening frame. Can't believe some of the stuff that made it into the final cut - just awful from beginning to end and a great waste of a concept that could have been done much better.

L.A. Chieffan 06-09-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 8669312)
Prometheus was one of the biggest steaming piles I have ever seen. Had such high hopes for it and it basically went dumbnuts from the opening frame. Can't believe some of the stuff that made it into the final cut - just awful from beginning to end and a great waste of a concept that could have been done much better.

Lol, I'm so glad you didn't like it.

L.A. Chieffan 06-09-2012 12:58 PM

Have you guys seen the viral Peter Weyland video at the 2023 TED conference? I didn't even know it existed until today. They should've put it at the end of the credits or something.

TrickyNicky 06-09-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8669420)
Have you guys seen the viral Peter Weyland video at the 2023 TED conference? I didn't even know it existed until today. They should've put it at the end of the credits or something.

I also thought they should have had that vignette in there somewhere. Same with the David-in-a-bag commercial. It will probably all be in the Director's Cut though.

KcMizzou 06-09-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8669420)
Have you guys seen the viral Peter Weyland video at the 2023 TED conference? I didn't even know it existed until today. They should've put it at the end of the credits or something.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/lpYUW0ekPSA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Frazod 06-09-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat (Post 8668701)
You will hate it because some stuff isn't explained fully, or doesn't appear to make sense, and likely wasn't intended to. ROFL

Bite me, douche. I loved it. nlm

Frazod 06-09-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat (Post 8668758)
It's not that they thought we were "bad."

This is part of the point the movie is trying to make.

David is a human creation, and yet Vickers
Spoiler!


Have you ever made something, decided it was shit, and then gotten rid of it? Like, perhaps a dish of food, or a painting, or an essay?

Spoiler!

Frazod 06-09-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8668732)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Chiefs Pantalones 06-10-2012 02:17 AM

Just got back from seeing it. Not bad. Kinda drug out.

Question...

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 06-10-2012 02:26 AM

They didn't say that at all, dude.

Chiefs Pantalones 06-10-2012 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fine Uncut Meat (Post 8670514)
They didn't say that at all, dude.

My bad I thought I read that then after I posted this I scrolled down and read stuff that made sense of it.

Fire Me Boy! 06-10-2012 07:17 AM

Spoiler!

Frazod 06-10-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8670569)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Sully 06-10-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8665617)
Tested my IMAX version last night. Only got to see a few scenes (the beginning, a gruesome medical scene around 3/4s of the way through, and the last 15 minutes). Seemed to be exactly what I expected from what I've heard: thoughtful, cinematically gripping, probably confusing for most non sci-fi/"Alien" fans. Not a horror film, not a suspense film per se. Very Ridley Scott. I think most people here will like it, but most "normals" won't like it or get it.

I've never seen any of the Alien movies, and I lived Prometheus.

Fire Me Boy! 06-10-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8670573)
Spoiler!

:facepalm:

Frazod 06-10-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 8670591)
:facepalm:

Spoiler!

Frazod 06-10-2012 09:25 AM

Off to see it again - this time IMAX 3D.

Buck 06-10-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8670694)
Off to see it again - this time IMAX 3D.

Hell yeah, enjoy it. So visually stunning.

As far as that Peter Weyland TED video, I think it should have been in the movie, right after the first Engineer part.

I hope it makes it into the Director's cut. Cant wait for that to come out on Blu-Ray.

Sure-Oz 06-10-2012 11:29 AM

Going in a bit to see in imax3d...caught it in 2d and loved the visuals.

Stoked.

Valiant 06-10-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8669266)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

keg in kc 06-10-2012 12:47 PM

Just saw it. Leaning somewhere in the area of 'okay' to 'mildly disappointing'. Visually stunning with some really cool sequences, and the main concept of a progenitor race is a theory I've always liked, but the storytelling in a general sense just wasn't very good. The only way I can think of to characterize it is ham-fisted. There was no finesse, no style or elegance to it. No meaningful reveals because everything that happened was obvious from very early in the film (although I will say they did a surprisingly good job with the trailers; didn't give away nearly as much there as I thought). It wasn't bad per se. Just sort of like hoping you're going to get a Chimay and somebody hands you a Coors light. Drinkable, but disappointing. Oddly enough, while I was watching, the movie that it reminded me of was Event Horizon. Cool concept in theory, not quite all it should have been in execution.

(note: I'm relating the thoughts and reactions I had while watching both films, not saying Prometheus = Event Horizon; Prometheus was much better than that...)

Frazod 06-10-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8670977)
Just saw it. Leaning somewhere in the area of 'okay' to 'mildly disappointing'. Visually stunning with some really cool sequences, and the main concept of a progenitor race is a theory I've always liked, but the storytelling in a general sense just wasn't very good. The only way I can think of to characterize it is ham-fisted. There was no finesse, no style or elegance to it. No meaningful reveals because everything that happened was obvious from very early in the film (although I will say they did a surprisingly good job with the trailers; didn't give away nearly as much there as I thought). It wasn't bad per se. Just sort of like hoping you're going to get a Chimay and somebody hands you a Coors light. Drinkable, but disappointing. Oddly enough, while I was watching, the movie that it reminded me of was Event Horizon. Cool concept in theory, not quite all it should have been in execution.

(note: I'm relating the thoughts and reactions I had while watching both films, not saying Prometheus = Event Horizon; Prometheus was much better than that...)

I'm surprised by this - I obviously loved it. Made me want to watch Lawrence of Arabia again, too.

Didn't really pick up more from the first time, except
Spoiler!

keg in kc 06-10-2012 01:10 PM

I thought that seemed pretty clearly to be the case.

Bowser 06-10-2012 01:18 PM

The one thing that may be holding you up from thinking it was a "great" film might be the way they left it wide open for a sequel,and possibly, all of this talk about it being a prequel. It was, but not in a way that would give definite relationship to the Alien movies, therefore not living up to preconceived notions?

Frazod 06-10-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8671052)
I thought that seemed pretty clearly to be the case.

Yeah, I just didn't notice it first time around. Sometimes I get so lost in the visuals that I miss things. I've probably seen Watchmen five or six times and I still notice little things I hadn't caught before.

Buck 06-10-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8671043)
I'm surprised by this - I obviously loved it. Made me want to watch Lawrence of Arabia again, too.

Didn't really pick up more from the first time, except
Spoiler!

I didn't even really think of that.

How did you like the IMAX 3D?

Frazod 06-10-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8671065)
The one thing that may be holding you up from thinking it was a "great" film might be the way they left it wide open for a sequel,and possibly, all of this talk about it being a prequel. It was, but not in a way that would give definite relationship to the Alien movies, therefore not living up to preconceived notions?

Spoiler!

Frazod 06-10-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8671070)
I didn't even really think of that.

How did you like the IMAX 3D?

It was pretty bad ass. I sat right in front, too.

keg in kc 06-10-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8671065)
The one thing that may be holding you up from thinking it was a "great" film might be the way they left it wide open for a sequel,and possibly, all of this talk about it being a prequel. It was, but not in a way that would give definite relationship to the Alien movies, therefore not living up to preconceived notions?

Nah, it doesn't have anything to do with that. They've said from the beginning it wasn't a direct prequel and I believed them.

What I didn't like was basically lazy storytelling. Coincidences and convenient setups, poorly done foreshadowing and reveals, and particularly people doing things people wouldn't ever do facing the situation in 'real life' (this is important - you want to suspend disbelief but people still have to react in a believable way).

Beef number 1: taking off their damn helmets. That was just dumb. And when I say it was dumb, I mean the writing. That's like bad horror movie level stuff.

There was a lot more, to go into any details would be serious spoiler territory, but the short list would be splitting up the group the way they did, introducing infertility when and how they did, basically everything David did, basically all of Vickers and finally the way that for the entire movie, nearly every character was a cliche, there was no real development for anybody but Shaw (and hers wasn't done very well; not organic at all, stuff just kept getting introduced in nonsensical leaps), everyone else was a cardboard cutout that was there only to set up their death scene.

keg in kc 06-10-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8671082)
It was pretty bad ass. I sat right in front, too.

You and me both. I was front and center, feet propped up on the railing. Favorite spot in the house.

Buck 06-10-2012 01:31 PM

Alright, I'm done with spoiler tags. The movie has been out 3 days.

Are we to assume that each of the other ship bases (I think we saw 3 or 4) didn't have a hibernating engineer in them? Also it seemed like the one ship had 3 or 4 hibernation pods, and there was only 1 engineer in that one.

I don't see why each base/ship wouldn't have at least 1 hibernating engineer (along with all the jars) in it. So do you think that Shaw and David had to take care of an Engineer before they got the ship airborn or do you think that there was only 1 engineer left on the planet?

Frazod 06-10-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8671094)
Alright, I'm done with spoiler tags. The movie has been out 3 days.

Are we to assume that each of the other ship bases (I think we saw 3 or 4) didn't have a hibernating engineer in them? Also it seemed like the one ship had 3 or 4 hibernation pods, and there was only 1 engineer in that one.

I don't see why each base/ship wouldn't have at least 1 hibernating engineer (along with all the jars) in it. So do you think that Shaw and David had to take care of an Engineer before they got the ship airborn or do you think that there was only 1 engineer left on the planet?

I'm still going to use the spoiler tags for another couple of days.

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 06-10-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8671065)
The one thing that may be holding you up from thinking it was a "great" film might be the way they left it wide open for a sequel,and possibly, all of this talk about it being a prequel. It was, but not in a way that would give definite relationship to the Alien movies, therefore not living up to preconceived notions?

There will definitely be a sequel.

Can't ****ing wait. No one makes movies like Ridley Scott. Even when they suck, I'm in a trance. That includes Kingdom of Heaven and Robin Hood.

keg in kc 06-10-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8671106)
I'm still going to use the spoiler tags for another couple of days.

Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Hammock Parties 06-10-2012 01:52 PM

Spoiler!

Buck 06-10-2012 02:05 PM

God damn so many things just popped in my head right now. I need to see this movie again next weekend.

I'm not quite understanding why the Engineers left markings on Earth leading them to LV-223, if it was just some kind of military instillation.

KevB 06-10-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8671085)
Nah, it doesn't have anything to do with that. They've said from the beginning it wasn't a direct prequel and I believed them.

What I didn't like was basically lazy storytelling. Coincidences and convenient setups, poorly done foreshadowing and reveals, and particularly people doing things people wouldn't ever do facing the situation in 'real life' (this is important - you want to suspend disbelief but people still have to react in a believable way).

Beef number 1: taking off their damn helmets. That was just dumb. And when I say it was dumb, I mean the writing. That's like bad horror movie level stuff.

There was a lot more, to go into any details would be serious spoiler territory, but the short list would be splitting up the group the way they did, introducing infertility when and how they did, basically everything David did, basically all of Vickers and finally the way that for the entire movie, nearly every character was a cliche, there was no real development for anybody but Shaw (and hers wasn't done very well; not organic at all, stuff just kept getting introduced in nonsensical leaps), everyone else was a cardboard cutout that was there only to set up their death scene.

I enjoyed it, but can't argue much with your criticisms. That's what held me back from really loving it, despite my desire to do just that. Another one : the biologist reaction when that snake-like creature reared up in front of him. He reacts as if it's friendly, but it looked like a cobra. Would you really get that close and try to interact when just moments earlier you were frightened with every noise and shadow?

Hammock Parties 06-10-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 8671183)
God damn so many things just popped in my head right now. I need to see this movie again next weekend.

I'm not quite understanding why the Engineers left markings on Earth leading them to LV-223, if it was just some kind of military instillation.

I don't really think it's important. It's just a plot device. Ridley Scott makes movies where every little detail isn't fully explained.


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