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Riley Odoms 88 10-25-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5150790)
there isnt a team, fans or program I despise more than LSU...

The word GEAUX is kind of annoying, but I am indifferent to that program. Before Nick Saban, they really weren't much of a national power. They had a few good years under David Archer, but you would have to go back to Paul Dieztel and Billy Cannon (late 50s) to when they were a real power.

Frazod 10-25-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5150800)
After living in Alexandria LA for 3 years, you realize how lucky you where to live in Big 12 country...

The are the crudest, most annoying, uneducated fans I have ever met...

Understood.

chiefs1111 10-25-2008 04:09 PM

38-24 UGA over LSU now

Riley Odoms 88 10-25-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150797)
Although, at this point, I'd be fine with us never drafting a Penn St. player again.

If Kansas City did that, they could miss out on Lenny Moore or Jack Ham.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5150800)
After living in Alexandria LA for 3 years, you realize how lucky you where to live in Big 12 country...

The are the crudest, most annoying, uneducated fans I have ever met...

Yeah, I'd love to hang with with LSU fans. I'd just have to remove teeth and start acting like I have no class

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150806)
Yeah, I'd love to hang with with LSU fans. I'd just have to remove teeth and start acting like I have no class

misread your post... sorry reerun

kstater 10-25-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley Odoms 88 (Post 5150804)
If Kansas City did that, they could miss out on Lenny Moore or Jack Ham.

:spock:

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150799)
Aaron Rogers has skills Sam Bradford doesn't?

Yes. He's much naturally thicker, for one. He has a stronger arm, he's shown a willingness to stand in the pocket and take a hit, and he worked with a talented cast at Cal, but not nearly as talented as what Bradford has at OU.

Reerun_KC 10-25-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley Odoms 88 (Post 5150801)
The word GEAUX is kind of annoying, but I am indifferent to that program. Before Nick Saban, they really weren't much of a national power. They had a few good years under David Archer, but you would have to go back to Paul Dieztel and Billy Cannon (late 50s) to when they were a real power.

Dear god, everything down there ends witha EAUX.....

chiefs1111 10-25-2008 04:11 PM

i can't believe they just let UGA out of that hole

the Talking Can 10-25-2008 04:11 PM

everytime they blitz stafford he kills them....

Riley Odoms 88 10-25-2008 04:11 PM

I want to stick it in Tracy Wolfson's butt crack.

Reerun_KC 10-25-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150809)
misread your post... sorry reerun

But I will say the ladies down there in Baton Rouge on gamedays are stunning..... True southern bayou honeys!

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley Odoms 88 (Post 5150804)
Jack Ham.

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58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150811)
Yes. He's much naturally thicker, for one. He has a stronger arm, he's shown a willingness to stand in the pocket and take a hit, and he worked with a talented cast at Cal, but not nearly as talented as what Bradford has at OU.

Standing in the pocket???? You've obviously not watched an OU snap this year.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150811)
Yes. He's much naturally thicker, for one. He has a stronger arm, he's shown a willingness to stand in the pocket and take a hit, and he worked with a talented cast at Cal, but not nearly as talented as what Bradford has at OU.

thicker? yeah, Rogers is stout!

Riley Odoms 88 10-25-2008 04:13 PM

Bonehead move by Richt to go for the FG.

jaa1025 10-25-2008 04:14 PM

Stafford reminds me of a smaller, less mobile version of Freeman. Just has a much better supporting Cast. This is easily the best game so far I've seen from Stafford...maybe I won't be so hard on him.

Riley Odoms 88 10-25-2008 04:15 PM

Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson are music to my ears. One of the best pairs in the business.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150825)
thicker? yeah, Rogers is stout!

6'2" 220 is thicker than 6'4" 210

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 5150828)
Stafford reminds me of a smaller, less mobile version of Freeman. Just has a much better supporting Cast. This is easily the best game so far I've seen from Stafford...maybe I won't be so hard on him.

What the hell are you talking about? Aside from Green and Moreno, he has nothing on offense. He has a true freshman center, his LT is out for the year, and his receivers chug dick.

Mr. Arrowhead 10-25-2008 04:17 PM

Please Give me Matt Stafford, PLEASE!!!

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150833)
6'2" 220 is thicker than 6'4" 210

Yeah, and Rogers is 26 and Bradford is 22. Good argument.

the Talking Can 10-25-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 5150828)
Stafford reminds me of a smaller, less mobile version of Freeman. Just has a much better supporting Cast.

lmao

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150823)
Standing in the pocket???? You've obviously not watched an OU snap this year.

Yeah, I have. I've seen him stand there and throw a 2 yard pass all year. I forgot that the jailbreak screen is real "pressure" on him, almost like it's not designed that way.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150837)
Yeah, and Rogers is 26 and Bradford is 22. Good argument.

First of all, dumbass, Bradford is 20. Secondly, Rogers was that size coming out of Cal 3 1/2 years ago.

Mr. Arrowhead 10-25-2008 04:19 PM

Anybody that wants bradford over stafford is clearly an idiot

Reerun_KC 10-25-2008 04:19 PM

Watching GA just hammer LSU is music to my ears...

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150837)
Yeah, and Rogers is 26 and Bradford is 22. Good argument.

10 pounds over 2 inches in 4 years. That post confirms that you have no perspective. plus Bradford is 6"5. How many balls have been batted down for our team lately?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 5150844)
Anybody that wants bradford over stafford is clearly an idiot

I guarantee you they were the same people :whackit: to the thought of drafting Ty Detmer or David Klingler.

kstater 10-25-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150846)
10 pounds over 2 inches in 4 years. That post confirms that you have no perspective. plus Bradford is 6"5. How many balls have been batted down for our team lately?

I can almost guarantee you that when the combine rolls around, he'll be 6'3".

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150846)
10 pounds over 2 inches in 4 years. That post confirms that you have no perspective. plus Bradford is 6"5. How many balls have been batted down for our team lately?

Actually, Bradford would have to gain about 15 pounds, and even then he's going to be of a similar build to a QB who was knocked for a lack of size coming out.

Secondly, stop jerking off in the OU media guide. Bradford is not 6'5"

Finally, homer, it still doesn't address the fact that Bradford doesn't have to read a defense in that system, takes no snaps from under center, makes no difficult throws, and lack the arm strength of Aaron Rodgers, who had a good, but not great, arm.

So, other than trying to obfuscate the entire argument about Bradford vs. Stafford into a diversion about the size of Aaron Rodgers, which still doesn't hold up, you're completely <del>right</del> ****ing reeruned.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150841)
First of all, dumbass, Bradford is 20. Secondly, Rogers was that size coming out of Cal 3 1/2 years ago.

OK, he is ten days from being 21, plus you are making my point for me dumbass. He is extremely poised for such a young age.

eazyb81 10-25-2008 04:24 PM

Damn, OSU might win this one.

kcxiv 10-25-2008 04:25 PM

Shit, the kicker from Fresno State kicked a 58 yard field goal with 2 seconds left to win the game. Longest in team history.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150855)
Actually, Bradford would have to gain about 15 pounds, and even then he's going to be of a similar build to a QB who was knocked for a lack of size coming out.

Secondly, stop jerking off in the OU media guide. Bradford is not 6'5"

Finally, homer, it still doesn't address the fact that Bradford doesn't have to read a defense in that system, takes no snaps from under center, makes no difficult throws, and lack the arm strength of Aaron Rodgers, who had a good, but not great, arm.

So, other than trying to obfuscate the entire argument about Bradford vs. Stafford into a diversion about the size of Aaron Rodgers, which still doesn't hold up, you're completely <del>right</del> ****ing reeruned.

You were the one that brought up Rogers. I think Bradford or Stafford would be good prospects dumbass. and if you've watched any games, he takes tons of snaps under center.

BTW, how many snaps does Brady take under center old school?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150856)
OK, he is ten days from being 21, plus you are making my point for me dumbass. He is extremely poised for such a young age.

How can you measure someone's poise when they are making high school football throws in a system where they are pressured as much as Homer Simpson at the Springfield Power Plant?

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150855)
Actually, Bradford would have to gain about 15 pounds, and even then he's going to be of a similar build to a QB who was knocked for a lack of size coming out.

Secondly, stop jerking off in the OU media guide. Bradford is not 6'5"

Finally, homer, it still doesn't address the fact that Bradford doesn't have to read a defense in that system, takes no snaps from under center, makes no difficult throws, and lack the arm strength of Aaron Rodgers, who had a good, but not great, arm.

So, other than trying to obfuscate the entire argument about Bradford vs. Stafford into a diversion about the size of Aaron Rodgers, which still doesn't hold up, you're completely <del>right</del> ****ing reeruned.

And it was the national media that said bradford was 6"5. whether he is 6"5 or 6"4, what's the f'n difference?

eazyb81 10-25-2008 04:28 PM

God, the South just completely owns the North. It's so embarrassing.

The Big 12 South is easily the best division in college football.

chiefs1111 10-25-2008 04:28 PM

touchdown UGA on a Staford QB draw

Reerun_KC 10-25-2008 04:29 PM

Stafford is a stud!

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150873)
How can you measure someone's poise when they are making high school football throws in a system where they are pressured as much as Homer Simpson at the Springfield Power Plant?

poise is standing in the pocket taking a hit.... don't you think you've seen that... maybe you are just not educated....that's what I think

kstater 10-25-2008 04:29 PM

I don't think the OSU QB realized it was 4th down.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150869)
You were the one that brought up Rogers. I think Bradford or Stafford would be good prospects dumbass. and if you've watched any games, he takes tons of snaps under center.

BTW, how many snaps does Brady take under center old school?

Stupid ****:

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150799)
Aaron Rogers has skills Sam Bradford doesn't?


milkman 10-25-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150856)
OK, he is ten days from being 21, plus you are making my point for me dumbass. He is extremely poised for such a young age.

Poised?

The only time he had to make plays under any kind of pressure, he shit his pants.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150873)
How can you measure someone's poise when they are making high school football throws in a system where they are pressured as much as Homer Simpson at the Springfield Power Plant?

High school throws in the best division of the best conference in college football. Wow, i've never thought you were such an idiot until today

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5150883)
I don't think the OSU QB realized it was 4th down.

Who throws that pass on 4th and 7?

Reerun_KC 10-25-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150888)
Who throws that pass on 4th and 7?

Herm?

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150884)

convenient you left out the few posts before that

chiefs1111 10-25-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5150890)
Herm?

nah,Herm would be to chicken to do any throw on 4th down. It has to be a field goal,punt or a run up the middle for him..

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5150886)
Poised?

The only time he had to make plays under any kind of pressure, he shit his pants.

When was that exactly?

jaa1025 10-25-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150835)
What the hell are you talking about? Aside from Green and Moreno, he has nothing on offense. He has a true freshman center, his LT is out for the year, and his receivers chug dick.

And Freeman has Banks...a 5'6" 145 pound WR. Georgia has an excellent running game. KSU has one of the worst in the league.

milkman 10-25-2008 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150895)
When was that exactly?

2nd half of the Texas game.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:34 PM

Texas will lose to TT next week anyway

chiefs1111 10-25-2008 04:36 PM

touchdown LSU. 45-31 UGA still in the lead 8:47 left

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150887)
High school throws in the best division of the best conference in college football. Wow, i've never thought you were such an idiot until today

Jesus Christ. How many times does it have to be said to you.

Slip screens, jailbreaks, bubble screens, and 2 yard digs are not NFL throws. They are high school throws.

No team in the NFL runs those plays. Not one. I'm sorry that your desire to jerk off to your all-stat quarterback has deluded you from seeing that he simply is not in the same league as Matt Stafford when it comes to being an NFL quarterback.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5150899)
2nd half of the Texas game.

What??? 5 TDs and 2 INTs, both of the INTs were not even relevant to the game. Try again old man.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150893)
convenient you left out the few posts before that

Which, ones, the ones where I didn't mention Aaron Rodgers, which would have been everyone in this thread? Oh I forgot, you bringing Aaron Rodgers into the equation somehow equates to me bringing Aaron Rodgers into the equation through some unknown corollary of tard logic.

kstater 10-25-2008 04:38 PM

OSU has a chance.

98 yards in 33 seconds and no timeouts, but it's a chance.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150905)
Jesus Christ. How many times does it have to be said to you.

Slip screens, jailbreaks, bubble screens, and 2 yard digs are not NFL throws. They are high school throws.

No team in the NFL runs those plays. Not one. I'm sorry that your desire to jerk off to your all-stat quarterback has deluded you from seeing that he simply is not in the same league as Matt Stafford when it comes to being an NFL quarterback.

I didn't say Stafford wasn't a legitimate NFL QB. Bradford is a Sophmore. You've obviously not seen the NFL type throws Bradford has made down field. OU's offense is effective. Deal with it. He runs the plays they call.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Today is one week. Bradford can make every NFL throw.

eazyb81 10-25-2008 04:39 PM

Dez Bryant is sick.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 5150898)
And Freeman has Banks...a 5'6" 145 pound WR. Georgia has an excellent running game. KSU has one of the worst in the league.

And Matt Stafford plays against defenses that actually have NFL caliber players. Wait, though, Josh Freeman hung 35 (and 3 picks) on a D that has given up over 110 points in the last three weeks (after OU played prevent all second half because they were up by ****ing 45).

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150910)
Which, ones, the ones where I didn't mention Aaron Rodgers, which would have been everyone in this thread? Oh I forgot, you bringing Aaron Rodgers into the equation somehow equates to me bringing Aaron Rodgers into the equation through some unknown corollary of tard logic.

You are such a drama queen. Now I finally see why half the board hates you. You have no accountability about what you say, and half of what you say isn't even accurate. Good job 'Hamas'.

eazyb81 10-25-2008 04:42 PM

Damn, that's the game. OSU put up one hell of a fight, and they shouldn't drop much at all in the polls for barely losing on the road against the #1 team in the nation.

kstater 10-25-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150919)
And Matt Stafford plays against defenses that actually have NFL caliber players. Wait, though, Josh Freeman hung 35 (and 3 picks) on a D that has given up over 110 points in the last three weeks (after OU played prevent all second half because they were up by ****ing 45).

Freeman's going to go late 1st/early 2nd. But he made some pretty sick throws either on the run or with defenders draped on him today.

milkman 10-25-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150906)
What??? 5 TDs and 2 INTs, both of the INTs were not even relevant to the game. Try again old man.

I've said this a thousand times.

I base my opinions on what I see, not on stats.

Yeah, he put up big numbers, but there were about 4 plays where Oklahoma needed him to step up and make play.

He crapped his pants.

Colt McCoy had more poise and composure.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150783)
No it's not. There's a reason why the Colts, Chargers, and Packers draft better than other teams. There is a definitive skill set to identifying players. There is also a list of abilities that an NFL QB must have in order to succeed.


you listed QBs and the Green Bay Packers but you never brought Aaron Rogers into the equation? OK...

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150921)
You are such a drama queen. Now I finally see why half the board hates you. You have no accountability about what you say, and half of what you say isn't even accurate. Good job 'Hamas'.

I'm not the one who invented the fact that I brought Aaron Rodgers into this conversation.

Don't accuse me of shit that I didn't say. I can't be held responsible for your schizophrenic musings, thinking I said that something that you did.

Please, show me where Sam Bradford has thrown a 20 yard square in to a receiver who was wearing a CB like a cheap suit, or a 30 yard deep post to a receiver with no separation, or a 50 yard streak over the receiver's outside shoulder when he is tightly covered.

I've never seen him do it. His WR's constantly run free, and he has one of the best lines in the country protecting him. You could throw Todd Reesing back there and you would get the same results, and no one is crazy enough to think he's anything more than an Arena League 2 prospect.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5150925)
I've said this a thousand times.

I base my opinions on what I see, not on stats.

Yeah, he put up big numbers, but there were about 4 plays where Oklahoma needed him to step up and make play.

He crapped his pants.

Colt McCoy had more poise and composure.

The definitive play in that game was the kickoff return for Texas when OU was up 14-3. Had NOTHING to do with Bradford. Your memory is failing you old man

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150934)
you listed QBs and the Green Bay Packers but you never brought Aaron Rogers into the equation? OK...

So was I talking about Matt Hasselbeck then?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5150922)
Damn, that's the game. OSU put up one hell of a fight, and they shouldn't drop much at all in the polls for barely losing on the road against the #1 team in the nation.

They shouldn't drop beyond 8. That is a damned good football team.

Best four teams in the league are all in the South.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150940)
So was I talking about Matt Hasselbeck then?

So the Packers didn't draft Rogers to succeed Farve?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150939)
The definitive play in that game was the kickoff return for Texas when OU was up 14-3. Had NOTHING to do with Bradford. Your memory is failing you old man

LAWL

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5150925)
I've said this a thousand times.

I base my opinions on what I see, not on stats.

Yeah, he put up big numbers, but there were about 4 plays where Oklahoma needed him to step up and make play.

He crapped his pants.

Colt McCoy had more poise and composure.


Bradford crapped his pants? Just goes to show you how much perspective you have on college football. This argument is over.

milkman 10-25-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150939)
The definitive play in that game was the kickoff return for Texas when OU was up 14-3. Had NOTHING to do with Bradford. Your memory is failing you old man

The two teams combined for how many points?

In a game that Oklahoma went to the locker room with the lead at the half?

But the definitive play came early in the game?

Do you actually believe this garbage?

Are you really this ****ing stupid?

milkman 10-25-2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150951)
Bradford crapped his pants? Just goes to show you how much perspective you have on college football. This argument is over.


Yeah it is, because you are a ****ing idiot.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150945)
So the Packers didn't draft Rogers to succeed Farve?

I didn't mention Rodgers, nor did I allude to him. What I did was talk about how prospect evaluation is far more advanced than just speculation.

You speculated what you wanted me to say in order to invent some kind of losing argument.

58-4ever 10-25-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5150949)
LAWL

consider me a chat room n00b, but I don't even know what LAWL means cool guy.

kstater 10-25-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 5150951)
Bradford crapped his pants? Just goes to show you how much perspective you have on college football. This argument is over.

Well I did see a brown spot on his trousers. But who knows, there could have been a bare spot on the field.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-25-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5150955)
Yeah it is, because you are a ****ing idiot.

Hey, what do you know? We're obviously just drama queens. It's not like we're looking at OU football objectively or anything.


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