And you have nothing to back this up with.

He's absolutely ****ing us in 2 ways. His backup is playing some of the worst football at the S position I've seen since Kendrick Lewis, and his contract made it ridiculously hard to do anything on the trade market outside of a half season rental.

But the Chiefs held firm, and while it may still come back to bite them in a few months, it wasn’t for a lack of effort. The Chiefs expressed interest in Collins, but the Giants weren’t interested in trading him, Yahoo Sports has learned. Same goes for Peterson, who the Cardinals also weren’t open to trading. A source with knowledge of the club’s thinking also told Yahoo Sports that the Chiefs were not interested in Jenkins, an expensive, 30-year-old corner with uneven tape this season.

The club also monitored the availability of Clinton-Dix, a smooth 25-year-old safety who is set to be a free agent in May, but decided internally it wouldn’t surrender the third-round pick needed to secure his services from the Green Bay Packers. (Washington wound up trading a fourth for him). There were several reasons for that.

For one, Clinton-Dix would have been a tight fit under the cap this year, and the Chiefs — who will need to pay young building blocks like Tyreek Hill and Chris Jones in the near future — knew he’d be hard to re-sign. Especially when you consider the amount of salary and equity they’ve already invested in the safety position, with Eric Berry and Daniel Sorensen combining to take up $18.3 million in cap space, and the fact they just invested a 2018 fourth-rounder in Armani Watts and a 2020 seventh for Jordan Lucas.

Add all that together, and they just couldn’t justify using a premium, top-100 asset on a rental player they liked but didn’t necessarily see as a game-changer.


Rental player.


Rental player.













Rental player.

Just a question. If Berry would retire, what effect would that have on the cap? His newest problem is not really a football injury. The team negotiated in good faith for his services and he couldn't provide them due to a physical problem.

To be fair, that doesn't say they viewed them as rental players. It said they would HAVE to be rental players because the Chiefs are stuck with Sorenson and Berry.

Maybe it's splitting hairs but to me, those are 2 different things.

Watts wasn't picked to be a "day 1" starter. He was picked because they thought he had the talent and ability to become the starter in a year or 2. They didn't count on the fecal storm of injuries that have the Chiefs playing their #5,6,7 safeties now.

Him retiring doesn't really help them. They could attempt to recover his pro-rated signing bonus but it doesn't really help the cap hit otherwise.

No team takes a 4th round pick EXPECTING them to ever become a starter.

He was taken to play special teams and HOPE that he could become a starter in the future.

Stating the obvious there. Pretty sure they'd like a player like Collins long term but with our money issues he's relegated to nice rental for us.

There's a shitload of OL that beg to differ. In my world the HOPE level doesn't start until the 6th and 7th rounds. The 5th is the good special teamer/rotational/pushing for playing type of guys.

Absolutely it's obvious.

But I also think it's an important, and fair, distinction to make, especially when evaluating Brett Veach.

The Chiefs didn't WANT to view them as rentals, they HAD to view them as rentals, primarily because of a couple of contracts that Brett Veach had nothing to do with.

Door #1 - trade a second rounder and spend $15m per year starting next year on a surefire all pro safety

Door #2 - take a low risk gamble on a safety in the draft. Use the $15m savings to bring in a surefire D starter... Maybe multiple.

Apart from losing a 2018 win now rental, I'll definitely choose door #2. We can't surrender high picks given all our needs.

Never a guarantee. You can't say that.

Neither would Landon Collins be. I don't think we have to spend that. Just saying at that price tag, it shouldn't be hard to find someone who can contribute.

Nothing is a guarantee.

Well except the fact that they're 7-1 and have the inside track on HFA. But that's now water under the bridge. Hopefully January doesn't end in disappointment. AGAIN.