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Frazod 05-21-2018 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 13564117)
How very selfless of you.

Yeah, show me the final combined bill, then talk to me about selflessness.

Marcellus 05-21-2018 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13564115)
No, that's not what I meant at all. The doctor's getting paid. The hospital's getting paid. Why shouldn't the donor get paid?

I believe legalizing selling organs would become a bit of an ethically complicated mine field.

I did hear on a podcast a while back that one of the biggest markets for missing and exploited children in the middle east is the very rich sheikhs will pay people for these black market kids if they are a match to harvest their organs so their own sick children can get a transplant.

Disturbing to say the least.

Frazod 05-21-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13564121)
I believe legalizing selling organs would become a bit of an ethically complicated mine field.

I did hear on a podcast a while back that one of the biggest markets for missing and exploited children in the middle east is the very rich sheikhs will pay people for these black market kids if they are a match to harvest their organs so their own sick children can get a transplant.

Disturbing to say the least.

Sounds like rich muslim scumbags doing rich muslim scumbag shit. Has little bearing the way things work here.

I just don't see any reason why the only person who doesn't reap a windfall here is the person giving up a vital organ. That's nuts.

Beef Supreme 05-21-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13564121)
I believe legalizing selling organs would become a bit of an ethically complicated mine field.

I did hear on a podcast a while back that one of the biggest markets for missing and exploited children in the middle east is the very rich sheikhs will pay people for these black market kids if they are a match to harvest their organs so their own sick children can get a transplant.

Disturbing to say the least.

They pay people for plasma donations.:shrug:


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The Franchise 05-21-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13564123)
Sounds like rich muslim scumbags doing rich muslim scumbag shit. Has little bearing the way things work here.

I just don't see any reason why the only person who doesn't reap a windfall here is the person giving up a vital organ. That's nuts.

Where is the money going to come from?

Frazod 05-21-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13564145)
Where is the money going to come from?

Same place the rest of it comes from.

-King- 05-21-2018 02:19 PM

This thread has taken a turn for the insane...
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Fire Me Boy! 05-21-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 13564119)
How many kidneys have you donated?

Knowing what I know now, with zero functioning kidneys and needing one so I don't hook up to a machine for 10 hours every night; tethered to within 12 feet of wherever I place my dialysis machine; losing any semblance of a social life, because in order to be at work at a reasonable hour, I have to hook up at 7:30 every night; visiting doctors every other week; the monthly blood work and quarterly urinalysis; the anxiety every time you get a cold, because those are some of the same symptoms of peritonitis, which could kill me; the periodic hospital visit just because shit's not working right, and multitude of other complications that come from losing kidney function; the hassle with any kind of overnight travel, including shipping or lugging 18L of dialysate solution for every night I'm gone, manual bags in case the machine breaks... I could go on.

I would if I could, BCT. I would if I could.

Fire Me Boy! 05-21-2018 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13564120)
Yeah, show me the final combined bill, then talk to me about selflessness.

The donor doesn't pay a dollar.

srvy 05-21-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 13564126)
They pay people for plasma donations.:shrug:


https://www.uphe.com/sites/default/f...-Gallery-1.jpg

They pay women to carry a child to term then hand it off.

srvy 05-21-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13562422)
Won't be long before a kidney can be grown in the lab and then transplanted.

https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2...ini-kidney-lab

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MahiMike 05-21-2018 02:53 PM

(in my best Red voice) Dumbass!

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-21-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13564115)
No, that's not what I meant at all. The doctor's getting paid. The hospital's getting paid. Why shouldn't the donor get paid?

If your wife needed a transplant and you were a match, would you donate?

Beef Supreme 05-21-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13564210)
If your wife needed a transplant and you were a match, would you donate?

I think that's not even relevant to the point he is making. Pretty sure everyone would.

Would you walk in to a hospital and just randomly donate a kidney to nobody in particular? Without compensation? Does it make you an asshole if you wouldn't? Does it make the Doctor an asshole since he didn't donate his time and expertise to do the procedure? Are the hospitals assholes for charging for tests and blood work and bed time, etc?

Marcellus 05-21-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 13564176)
The donor doesn't pay a dollar.

There is actually more to it than that as well.

A lot of the time when people are seeking a living donor, usually within the family but not always, they offer to recoup any income lost due to the procedure as the donor is going to miss many weeks of work as well.


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