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fairladyZ 01-12-2018 11:05 AM

Don't forget DeVito. Him and Poe were monsters against the run, and Hali was younger, he was always good against the run

MAG 01-12-2018 11:37 AM

He is a giant choke artist. His defenses always give up the crucial first down, TD, etc.

philfree 01-12-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 13356011)
Don't forget DeVito. Him and Poe were monsters against the run, and Hali was younger, he was always good against the run

Jay Howard is another player we lost from that squad.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-12-2018 11:42 AM

Run defense has never been respectable. Move to the 4-3 base and get a new coordinator

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-12-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13355663)
Star will get Suh money no?

Doubt it I don't think he's made the pro bowl and he had that injury last year. Give him a 2 year contract and make him prove his worth. He's a solid fattie to help the run D

Tribal Warfare 01-12-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13355962)
Off the top of my head, Houston and Poe were hurt

The Poe injury is 100% on Sutton for overworking him

chiefzilla1501 01-12-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13355956)
What the **** happened between 2014 and 2015? Run defense just fell off a ****ing cliff.

I was fine with that in 2015 because teams were terrified about passing against us. The big difference is pressure. We had 47 sacks and 22 INTs that year. That is outstanding. Sutton used to blitz on about 1/3 of the snaps, now we're one of the lowest blitzing teams in the league.

Eleazar 01-12-2018 12:28 PM

28th in total yards
29th against the pass
25th against the run
Slid from top 5 to #15 in points allowed in the second half of the season
Finished with 26 takeaways, 8 of which came against Denver. Apart from Denver's suckage, they're probably bottom half of the league in takeaways too.
Gave up over 200 rushing yards in the playoff game against a bad offense.

There's really very little the defense was doing right. The only possible way to defend them is the PPG stat, which is more connected to ball control on the part of the offense than anything positive the JAG defense was doing.

Can we put a scarlet letter or something on anyone who thinks Sutton should return...?

Ragged Robin 01-12-2018 12:45 PM

He's responsible for two of the biggest defensive meltdowns in NFL playoff history within the span of 5 years. There is no case for Bob Sutton.

Titty Meat 01-12-2018 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13356193)
28th in total yards
29th against the pass
25th against the run
Slid from top 5 to #15 in points allowed in the second half of the season
Finished with 26 takeaways, 8 of which came against Denver. Apart from Denver's suckage, they're probably bottom half of the league in takeaways too.
Gave up over 200 rushing yards in the playoff game against a bad offense.

There's really very little the defense was doing right. The only possible way to defend them is the PPG stat, which is more connected to ball control on the part of the offense than anything positive the JAG defense was doing.

Can we put a scarlet letter or something on anyone who thinks Sutton should return...?

Yards don't matter.

kccrow 01-12-2018 01:56 PM

Sutton sucks.

I'd love to see what Brent Venables could do in the pros.

KChiefs1 01-12-2018 02:11 PM

I just keep thinking how the Chiefs screwed me out of an unbelievable weekend of football.

Atlanta @ Philly
Chiefs @ Pats
Jax @ Pitt
NO @ Minny

That would have great.

Thanks Bob Sutton!

Beerthirty 01-12-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13356084)
Run defense has never been respectable. Move to the 4-3 base and get a new coordinator

I say stay 3-4. 4 -3 gets more un athletic with a bunch of extra fatties. I would rather see linebackers get after the QB than the d linemen. Plus you have more linebacker types on special teams. That said we need to stop the run I agree.

Easy 6 01-12-2018 02:42 PM

Here is my case for Sutton

https://goo.gl/images/2PpiLr

Sassy Squatch 01-12-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13356455)
Here is my case for Sutton

https://goo.gl/images/2PpiLr

Dilly dilly


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