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Mr. Laz 01-26-2017 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12710302)
Carr called his dislocated pinkie "the greatest pain I've ever felt in my life."

Well, now it's not.

Pussy...

lol

got me

tk13 01-26-2017 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12709996)
Yeah, physically Luck is superior to Carr in every way. And from a passing standpoint, he's more aggressive and more accurate downfield.

If you're backing Carr's horse here, it has to be on the basis of intangibles and frankly, I don't see Carr being any sort of cut above Luck in that regard either. Luck's a very smart quarterback and by all accounts a premier leader in the lockerroom.

I see nothing that Carr does better than Luck nor do I see anyplace where he's likely to surpass Luck. Carr had potentially the best OL in football and 2 WRs playing at a premium level. Luck had Hilton and a trash OL because Grigson is hot garbage.

I'd take Luck over Carr 10 times out of 10. Carr's going to be a good player, but more in the Phillip Rivers to Luck's Tom Brady. Rivers was a very good quarterback but still a tick below Brady. Such will be the case with Luck/Carr going forward.

I mean...until Mahomes blows by both of them.

There was a stat that came out in December, I'd have to find it... But Luck has had something like 35 different starting offensive lines. Thirty five. That's crazy. He's basically averaging a different starting OL once every two games in his career.

Luck is basically where Matt Ryan used to be. There was a time where a lot of people would say that he wasn't a franchise guy, but he absolutely is. Honestly I'm not sure any of these other guys have been given the load of crap Luck was handed. Terrible running game, poor defense, awful OL. Give him the Seahawks defense and watch what happens.

Mr. Laz 01-26-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12710306)
That's not how business, or promotions, work.

Giving Ballard a raise is mutually exclusive from Ballard interviewing for a higher level position in another organization.

Also, if the Chiefs could have blocked him from interviewing but didn't.

Sure that's how it works if the employer is just giving an employee a raise.

but that's not what was happening, it was a leverage situation

I've been on both sides of the situation

Workers - Headhunter wants me to leave
Boss- we want you to stay
Worker - I dunno, it's a good opportunity
Boss - How about if we give you a raise, would that help you decide to stay?
Worker - Ok, sounds good to me
Boss - Sound great, you agree to stay another year and we increase you pay xxx amount. How's that?
Worker - Yes, I'll stay or No, I need more money than that. (rinse/repeat bargain wage)

That would be how a friendly and respectful employment situation works. The Employer and Employee both give something and get something ... win/win.

If the employee is doing one of these ... "I'll take the raise but that doesn't mean shit about me leaving" then he's being a disrespectful dick.

If Ballard wants to interview to leave, then fine ... do it.
If Ballard wants to use an interview as leverage to get a raise but then stay ... fine.

His talent and marketability give him that power and give him that choice.

But you don't do BOTH unless you don't give a **** about your current employment situation.

Hoopsdoc 01-26-2017 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12710346)
There was a stat that came out in December, I'd have to find it... But Luck has had something like 35 different starting offensive lines. Thirty five. That's crazy. He's basically averaging a different starting OL once every two games in his career.

Luck is basically where Matt Ryan used to be. There was a time where a lot of people would say that he wasn't a franchise guy, but he absolutely is. Honestly I'm not sure any of these other guys have been given the load of crap Luck was handed. Terrible running game, poor defense, awful OL. Give him the Seahawks defense and watch what happens.

Andrew HAS to learn how to give up. Take the dump off. He tends to hold on to the ball just a split second to long trying to hit the home run.

I've watched every snap of every game since he's been in the league and that's his biggest flaw.

RunKC 01-26-2017 07:06 PM

Word is Ballard is the favorite. Sucks but it was bound to happen anyway.

Beethoven 01-27-2017 09:26 PM

Chris Ballard is the leading candidate for the Colts GM opening according to NFL.com.

Mr. Laz 01-27-2017 10:12 PM

With our luck, Ballard will have been the one with the keen eye not Dorsey.


Let the sucketh beginneth againeth

Dante84 01-27-2017 10:28 PM

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Who’s the G.M. favorite in Indy?

When the better-never-than-late G.M. search began in Indy, the sense in league circles was that the team eventually would promote Jimmy Raye III after engaging in a perfunctory outside search that would legitimize staying in-house with Raye. When the names began to be compiled for the search process, however, it appeared that the Colts were doing more than merely lining up a few courtesy interviews before doing the inevitable.

Six days later, there’s a renewed sense that Raye eventually may emerge with the job. The involvement of coach Chuck Pagano in the interviews bolsters the notion that owner Jim Irsay highly values the coach-G.M. relationship. If that’s a major factor, the safest course will be to match Raye and Pagano — if they see eye to eye, unlike Pagano and former G.M. Ryan Grigson.

Promoting Raye also makes it easier to put G.M. and coach on equal footing for accountability purposes, with both being told that either they succeed together or fail together. It would be difficult to tell a new G.M. from the outside that he’s fused at the hip with Pagano.

So if it doesn’t work between Raye and Pagano, that would be the occasion to press the reset button, hire someone from the outside, and hire a new coach.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...orite-in-indy/

Dante84 01-27-2017 10:36 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told that Chiefs exec Chris Ballard is the &quot;clear favorite&quot; for the Colts GM job. I&#39;m also told he wants to change the head coach.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825171042062655488">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told that Pagano is a &quot;deal breaker&quot; for Ballard. Meaning Ballard will take the job so long as Pagano is canned.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825171633342013440">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One source close to the team said that Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is &quot;Ballard&#39;s guy,&quot; suggesting Toub is who Ballard wants as HC.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825172121894604800">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told Vikings exec George Paton is a &quot;close second&quot; behind Ballard for the Colts GM job.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825174181281034241">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don&#39;t have any info on how the interview with Packers Eliot Wolf went, but I&#39;m told Jimmy Raye is considered the &quot;fallback option.&quot;</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825174711445266433">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also told the 2 SEA execs interviewed for Colts GM job (Kirchner and Fitterer) also wanted to change the HC. Tom Cable&#39;s name was mentioned.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825181675487260673">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reading between the lines, the only GM candidate I can see that ensures Chuck Pagano is safe for 2017 is Jimmy Raye.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825182175251230720">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Dante84 01-27-2017 10:36 PM

Well, we could be losing both Ballard and Toub. That would ****ing suck, especially after losing Toub's top assistant to Denver.

Bowser 01-27-2017 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12713479)
Well, we could be losing both Ballard and Toub. That would ****ing suck, especially after losing Toub's top assistant to Denver.

Jesus

DaneMcCloud 01-27-2017 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12713479)
Well, we could be losing both Ballard and Toub. That would ****ing suck, especially after losing Toub's top assistant to Denver.

Belichick loses peeps nearly every year.

All he does win.

Bowser 01-27-2017 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12713554)
Belichick loses peeps nearly every year.

All he does win.

I don't know if Belichick is the greatest coach ever, nor do I know if Tom Brady is the greatest QB ever, but Belichick and Brady together are far and away the greatest coach/QB combo the NFL has EVER seen in its history.

RunKC 01-27-2017 11:43 PM

The Colts guy seems like a Nick Athan. If you aren't "verified" on Twitter than you probably don't have inside info.

But if true that would be a massive hit for us. It's going to happen at some point, just hope not this year.

Dante84 01-27-2017 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12713560)
The Colts guy seems like a Nick Athan. If you aren't "verified" on Twitter than you probably don't have inside info.

But if true that would be a massive hit for us. It's going to happen at some point, just hope not this year.

Yeah, just googled him and he has just as many haters as Athan does.

A glimmer of hope.


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