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Direckshun 04-17-2015 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11443324)
By who other than you?

I'm not sure. He is a first round caliber OT who became the country's best center in two months. He's got prototypical size and athleticism with 34" arms.

He's a rare "safe pick" with ridiculous upside. He's probably my favorite center prospect since Mack, and probably moreso due to his upside.

RealSNR 04-17-2015 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11443322)
Same team with the same talent and the same personnel.

If you're saying the Steelers aren't a championship team than I don't know what to tell you.

What? The Steelers won their last Super Bowl two years before they drafted Pouncey, and DeCastro two years after that.

So no. They're not a championship team, because they haven't won a ****ing Super Bowl since they drafted those two players. You have to win a Super Bowl to be a championship team. "Championship" meaning you've won a championship.

RealSNR 04-17-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11443329)
That's my ****ing point, dingus. McGlynn and Fulton were hot trash and Kush STILL didn't see the field.

Reid started McGlynn for 12 games. There were better offensive linemen sitting at home watching porn all day because they had nothing better to do after they got cut from NFL teams.

It's a fallacy to take coach decisions from the previous year to predict the future. Coaches do weird and unpredictable things all the time. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.

The Chiefs knew about Hudson's contract when he refused an extension during the season. They let him walk and have brought in ZERO bodies in free agency. What does that tell you about Kush? That they think he's worthless, or that they want to give him a shot?

Direckshun 04-17-2015 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11443336)
What? The Steelers won their last Super Bowl two years before they drafted Pouncey, and DeCastro two years after that.

So no. They're not a championship team, because they haven't won a ****ing Super Bowl since they drafted those two players. You have to win a Super Bowl to be a championship team. "Championship" meaning you've won a championship.

You'd agree that the personnel difference is/was minimal between those teams.

Direckshun 04-17-2015 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11443340)
Reid started McGlynn for 12 games. There were better offensive linemen sitting at home watching porn all day because they had nothing better to do after they got cut from NFL teams.

It's a fallacy to take coach decisions from the previous year to predict the future. Coaches do weird and unpredictable things all the time. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.

The Chiefs knew about Hudson's contract when he refused an extension during the season. They let him walk and have brought in ZERO bodies in free agency. What does that tell you about Kush? That they think he's worthless, or that they want to give him a shot?

They've been shopping for centers all free agency, have they not.

RealSNR 04-17-2015 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11443341)
You'd agree that the personnel difference is/was minimal between those teams.

Between the 2010 team that lost to the Packers in the Super Bowl when Pouncey was a rookie and the last championship team? Yes.

Since then? No.

RealSNR 04-17-2015 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11443343)
They've been shopping for centers all free agency, have they not.

Yes they have. Cheap guys. What's-his-ass from the Rams is the only one I can name, though. And the fact that he didn't sign with us seems to say that we're not willing to pay that much for the position.

Doesn't seem like the behavior of a team desperate to fill a hole, does it?

Tribal Warfare 04-17-2015 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11443340)
The Chiefs knew about Hudson's contract when he refused an extension during the season. They let him walk and have brought in ZERO bodies in free agency. What does that tell you about Kush? That they think he's worthless, or that they want to give him a shot?

It's my impression that FO/Coaching staff have a slight ego about the development of their " home grown" players in which they believe that they can develop such projects to succeed. A big reason why they released every mother****ing Interior OL that was an FA or drafted by Pioli. Ooh yeah Maclin is considered as home grown player to Reid so disregard his signing as an hired gun.

RealSNR 04-17-2015 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 11443354)
It's my impression that FO/Coaching staff have a slight ego about the development of their " home grown" players in which they believe that they can develop such projects to succeed. A big reason why they released every mother****ing Interior OL that was an FA or drafted by Pioli. Ooh yeah Maclin is considered as home grown player to Reid so disregard his signing as an hired gun.

Asamoah was a ****ing turd. They were right to let him walk.

I really liked Schwartz and wanted us to pay him, but the team had other plans.

And Albert... well, we know how I feel about Albert.

Hudson wasn't worth 9 million. Good move there.

So far they've made the right move about half the time, with one of those times (the Fisher-for-Albert switcheroo) being a huge abortion.

kcbubb 04-17-2015 11:36 PM

Respect for posting this bc you aren't trolling and you knew everyone would hate Erving. I'd rather have a CB but I understand your logic. A trade back would be better with a team looking for Gurley or Dupree if you want Erving but I understand you are assuming that can't happen right? Where do you think Erving goes if we don't pick him? Which team? Who else needs a center?

Tribal Warfare 04-17-2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11443358)
Asamoah was a ****ing turd. They were right to let him walk.

I really liked Schwartz and wanted us to pay him, but the team had other plans.

And Albert... well, we know how I feel about Albert.

Hudson wasn't worth 9 million. Good move there.

So far they've made the right move about half the time, with one of those times (the Fisher-for-Albert switcheroo) being a huge abortion.

If KC drafts Dupree/Gregory with what's occurring with Houston, besides the monetary issue the ego sentiment that I'm suspicious of could be vindicated.

If Clark wants him to be " A Chief for Life" per Clark, but at the same time if Dorsey and Reid drafts a prospect that prove otherwise then I'm just sayin there is partial credence to that notion.

Direckshun 04-18-2015 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11443350)
Yes they have. Cheap guys. What's-his-ass from the Rams is the only one I can name, though. And the fact that he didn't sign with us seems to say that we're not willing to pay that much for the position.

Doesn't seem like the behavior of a team desperate to fill a hole, does it?

Seems like the behavior of a team with no cap space.

Chief Roundup 04-18-2015 08:12 AM

Thank god your endorsement doesn't mean jack.
We will not be taking a C at #18.

milkman 04-18-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11442866)
You just don't hear about teams doing it with centers. Maybe if the center in the draft is good value and the prospect has a Geno Smith-sized schlong that serves as an extra limb in fighting off defensive linemen at the snap. Then sure, why not.

Cam Erving is average, and you're having your period about a ****ing C that is no longer on the team.

Tell me, when we let Dexter McCluster walk in free agency last year, did you say, "UH OH. BIG ****ING HOLE IN THE ROSTER COMING UP. DRAFT A RETURNER IN THE 1ST ROUND, DORSEY!"

The fact that you're doing it over Rodney Hudson's departure is entirely laughable.

And **** you, milkman. Yes, I'm saying **** you pre-emptively, but I ****ing KNOW that if you read this, you'll immediately post some wise ancient Chinese adage about C being the most underrated position on the offensive line.

**** that. If you're so goddamn worried, then go sign a veteran like Brian de la Puente for chump change compared to Rodney Hudson. Cam Erving isn't going to be as good as Hudson for at least a few years anyway, and that's if he ever DOES become as good as Hudson is now. It's worthless to say, "UHOH WE'VE GOT A BIG HOLE IN THE OFFENSIVE LINE!" and then plug it immediately with a ****ing rookie who will get his shit pushed in all year and make Alex Smith's job just as difficult as if Eric Kush were starting.

Actually, he'll probably be worse. At least Eric Kush has NFL experience and NFL strength. We just don't know if he's a good player or not yet, that's all. With Cam Erving, the potential might be greater, but we're also dealing with more unknowns in the short term. And that's with our ****ing 1st round pick that we're jizzing away.

**** Cam Erving. **** you. **** your house. **** your car.

If the ancient Chinese were espousing the belief that centers would be under valued, they were not only wise, they were prescient.

How can you ignore that?

milkman 04-18-2015 11:09 AM

Seriously, though, I am not endorsing the pick.

I just wouldn't hate it to the degree that most of you dumbasses do.


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