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'Hamas' Jenkins 01-02-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11237508)
Couldn't agree more...Couldn't understand it less.

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Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 11234671)
I think BYU is the only college that has limitations on jacking it.

Michigan won't allow it in the showers. Drain issues.

duncan_idaho 01-02-2015 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11237504)
I don't think it's fair to expect a national title in a sport as dynastic as CFB. My beef with Pinkel has been an inability to lock down the borders of the state in recruiting, which has led to teams with less talent than they should have, even with the staff's amazing ability to develop players and find diamonds in the rough.

I expect Missouri to be a top-15 program given their population centers and lack of in-state BCS competition.

That should be the standard.

Recent in-state recruiting misses really hurt... Ezekiel Eliott and Roderick Johnson being the most prominent.

For most of the first 10 years of Pinkel's tenure, Missouri did not really "miss" on an in-state player who had any sort of impact at the college level (Laurence Maroney being the biggest one. Adrian Clayborne also was a stud, but he was missed because of closeness to Aaron O'Neal and early outrage about that tragedy).

I think they're going to close this season on a strong note, though. Doherty was a nice get, and I feel like they have a good shot at the Davis twins, which would give them 4 of the top 5 in-state guys in this class.

Saul Good 01-02-2015 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11237509)
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There is no reason that the in state studs, especially guys like the Davis twins, shouldn't be li ing up to play at Mizzou. It makes no sense that we are losing out on as many players as we do. The fact that he wins without them is impressive, but we've got to figure out how to keep them on board, because that's how we move from winning divisions to winning conferences and national championships.

Eleazar 01-02-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11237504)
I don't think it's fair to expect a national title in a sport as dynastic as CFB. My beef with Pinkel has been an inability to lock down the borders of the state in recruiting, which has led to teams with less talent than they should have, even with the staff's amazing ability to develop players and find diamonds in the rough.

I expect Missouri to be a top-15 program given their population centers and lack of in-state BCS competition.

That should be the standard.

I expect us to be ranked every year, and play on Jan 1 most years. I feel like that's a reasonable standard for the school right now.

Discuss Thrower 01-02-2015 11:54 AM

Losing in-state talent might be a product of not being a top-15 program as Hamas suggests.

If you're good enough to get noticed by the likes of Ohio State, USC or Alabama who are perennial players for a championship then why wouldn't you go with one of those programs versus stay close to home and go to Mizzou whose only gotten close to a shot at the title seven years ago?

Saul Good 01-02-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11237571)
Losing in-state talent might be a product of not being a top-15 program as Hamas suggests.

If you're good enough to get noticed by the likes of Ohio State, USC or Alabama who are perennial players for a championship then why wouldn't you go with one of those programs versus stay close to home and go to Mizzou whose only gotten close to a shot at the title seven years ago?

We were close last year.

Discuss Thrower 01-02-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11237577)
We were close last year.

But not as close as they were in 2007.

jjchieffan 01-02-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11237504)
I don't think it's fair to expect a national title in a sport as dynastic as CFB. My beef with Pinkel has been an inability to lock down the borders of the state in recruiting, which has led to teams with less talent than they should have, even with the staff's amazing ability to develop players and find diamonds in the rough.

I expect Missouri to be a top-15 program given their population centers and lack of in-state BCS competition.

That should be the standard.

I would be happy with winning a conference championship game. Nice to them in the game, but will they ever win it?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 11237780)
I would be happy with winning a conference championship game. Nice to them in the game, but will they ever win it?

If they do, they'll be in it for a national title.

jjchieffan 01-02-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Der Flöprer (Post 11237783)
If they do, they'll be in it for a national title.

That's what's been so frustrating. If they could've beat Oklahoma in the big 12 or Auburn last year, they would've been in the big game. But they lost and didn't even get a BCS bowl.

KChiefs1 01-02-2015 02:31 PM

Cotton Bowl last season & Citrus this year.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...71c7d7a603.jpg

Can't understand why kids in Missouri are going to Alabama, Oregon & Ohio State.

-King- 01-02-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11237669)
But not as close as they were in 2007.

We beat Auburn, we go to the national championship last year.

tredadda 01-02-2015 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11237915)
We beat Auburn, we go to the national championship last year.

They were one quarter from doing it. Didn't they have a lead in the 4th quarter of that game last year?

-King- 01-02-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 11237919)
They were one quarter from doing it. Didn't they have a lead in the 4th quarter of that game last year?

We had a lead until 3 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter. And we were down 3 with 10 minutes to go in the game. Then they scored 2 TDs and it was game over.

I'm close friends with one of the players and he pretty much said it was the coaches fault for refusing to change out of their game plan to stop Tra Mason. The players kept on asking for different formations, but coaches were stubborn and kept calling the same plays.


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