Something of a moral dilemma
 

Does your boss think you guys are buddies? If so, he may not think he is asking you to do anything that bad.

Also, it sounds like you only verbally expressed your disagreement about firing him over the phone, not firing him in general. If your main concern was the act of firing him at all, that should have been what you expressed, not the whole phone thing. For all you know there is more to it and he deserves to be fired so if you say you aren't sure he should be fired perhaps your boss could explain why he should be fired.

Then if its still clear he has to be fired and that there isn't a great reason beyond what you described, say you think that it should wait until after the holidays.

Listening for what? Look in the eyes for what That he was fired? Try to teach a lesson?

If there any legal concerns. You shouldn't be speaking to him in the first place. That should be handled any HR you have. And if the theft is serious enough. Let a attorney handle it.

You're making it more complicated than it is. Are you in a at-will state?

I meant he wasn't afforded the respect to see it face to face. Firing him over the phone doesn't give him a chance to look his accuser in the face and defend himself. It's cowardly.

In an entirely different scope, I like to do my interviews face to face because I like to establish a rapport with the associates I am interviewing. Did you interview the associate for the job over the phone, or face to face? To hire that associate, as the hiring employee, you wanted that respect, why can't the hired get that same respect when being fired?

As far as my job goes: I am an Investigator for Loss Prevention for my company. My job is to interview associates who were caught stealing to determine the amount of loss they caused and who else may be causing it. I am well trained in the legal boundaries of what my job entails and I make sure to never overstep those boundaries, but thanks.

You must be a lawyer.

Is there any documentation started? Doesn't sound like the information given that there is a line of documentation on the guy.

Unless you want to separate with the employee and don't mind paying him unemployment. Then fire at-will. And since he is in an leadership position. Will the separation require a severance package?

Doesn't sound like this potential firing is very well thought out and very rash. Quite frankly it makes me wonder if the person wanting the guy fired is really the guy you want leading anything in any company.

Either way, you will never see me working for your company, nosiree

1st off. He shouldn't be meeting an accuser. Who the hell is running this show? Lord forbid. A good HR team would be livid.

He's a part time employee. No unemployment. No severance.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Have you ever worked with a Loss Prevention Team?

I like to do face to face interviews. I like the interaction and find myself in an interview for longer than I should be spending. A good time I would like to spend in any interview is at least an hour. But frequently finding myself looking at the clock and seeing a hour and a half has gone by.

To add: you do realize that by law a company as the right to interview and reclaim any lost assets that occurred as a result of negligent behavior from one of their associates, right?

I have been doing this for over 8 year now for two separate companies and have gotten quite an abundant amount of judicial convictions in my time, none of which have landed me in trouble with any of my HR Depts.

Have I ever managed security guards? Contract or Proprietary security?

You never have a person meet their accuser. You want to talk about face to face firing. Why wouldn't this person supervisor have the balls to take it up with the thief himself? That is his job FWIW. To manage the people under him.

Bye.



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I don't fire asshat, but I am the accuser and I tell them to their face what I know. I interview then they decide to suspend or terminate. I am just the person to find out how much or who else is involved. How about you stop talking about things you have not one clue about. Thanks.

So you are the accuser and the person who finds out how much and who else is involved? I see no conflict there at all.