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Frosty 08-19-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10831655)
WHY the **** even bother to play defense? :shake:

keep two safeties deep and blitz 9 every play.

DaFace 08-19-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 10831546)
As one of those true NFL fans this is the first season I'm not even excited about opening weekend,oh I'll watch but purely from an entertainment point of view.

I'm the same way, though this is just another domino in the slow process that is losing me as a fan. I cancelled NFL Sunday Ticket and won't make any effort to find an online stream when the games aren't on locally. Hell, I may not even watch all of the other games either.

Until the NFL decides to balance the game out for defenses and reduce the reliance on star QBs to ever win anything, I'm officially a casual fan at best.

Bugeater 08-19-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10831608)
Fantasy football is a cancer.

I've been saying that for years. Anyone who plays it has no business complaining about this
Posted via Mobile Device

Molitoth 08-19-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10831611)
You do realize they scored 35 some points a game the 2nd half of last year right? Fans are dumb.


So in a passing friendly league, the Chiefs over the last decade have shown consistent focus on these aspects???

*An Elite QB
*Talented WR corps
*Talented Cornerbacks
*DC who can adjust outside of Man-to-man coverage

Andy Reid and staff may break this trend, but from what we have seen with Alex Smith outside of the playoff game last year, this offense is not a vertical juggernaut... and with these rules in place to help out fantasy numbers, you know this Bob Sutton scheme is going to putting yellow flags all over the field.

anyway

Rain Man 08-19-2014 09:38 AM

The weird thing about this is that it'll actually make defensive players more important, which is the opposite of what you'd expect.

If you make football a game where it's expected to score on every possession, then you can do that with average players. It'll decrease the difference between the Tom Brady QBs and the David Carr QBs, because Tom Brady could score against tough defenses while anybody can score against neutered defenses. So it'll be less important to have a top-notch offense because it's so easy to score.

On defense, the key will be to stop an offense for one or two drives in a game. If you can do that you win, because your offense will be scoring every time it's on the field. So even though defenses are going to look terrible, it'll be more important to have a "good" defense that can give up only 31 points per game instead of 40 points per game.

I don't think I really want to watch games like that, but I think that's what will happen. Let me know, because I'll be outside going for a run on Sundays.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-19-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10831659)
Teams are still running draws and screens in 3rd and 15 or more situations. It seems like the best strategy is to throw deep, particularly towards the sideline, as you have a good chance of getting a flag.

I saw a screen on 3rd and 20 even draw a holding call and auto 1st down. It will easier than ever for them to manipulate wins for the golden boys this year.

GoChargers 08-19-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10831673)
If you make football a game where it's expected to score on every possession, then you can do that with average players. It'll decrease the difference between the Tom Brady QBs and the David Carr QBs, because Tom Brady could score against tough defenses while anybody can score against neutered defenses. So it'll be less important to have a top-notch offense because it's so easy to score.

The difference is, Tom Brady will get a bogus flag on every single third down to keep his drives going whereas David Carr won't. So it's still more important than anything else that your team gets a marketable glory-boy QB who can draw ref favoritism.

DaFace 08-19-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10831673)
The weird thing about this is that it'll actually make defensive players more important, which is the opposite of what you'd expect.

If you make football a game where it's expected to score on every possession, then you can do that with average players. It'll decrease the difference between the Tom Brady QBs and the David Carr QBs, because Tom Brady could score against tough defenses while anybody can score against neutered defenses. So it'll be less important to have a top-notch offense because it's so easy to score.

On defense, the key will be to stop an offense for one or two drives in a game. If you can do that you win, because your offense will be scoring every time it's on the field. So even though defenses are going to look terrible, it'll be more important to have a "good" defense that can give up only 31 points per game instead of 40 points per game.

I don't think I really want to watch games like that, but I think that's what will happen. Let me know, because I'll be outside going for a run on Sundays.

Sounds like basketball (albeit with far fewer scoring chances).

GoChargers 08-19-2014 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10831658)
I'm really worried about the future of the sport. Between the marketing mistakes that are impacting the game and the financial stuff with the lawsuits, I think there's a strong chance that the sport as we know it will cease to exist within 20 years.

With the way things are headed, if this league folds up in 20 years, I can't say I'd miss it. The NBA and NHL are becoming way more fun to watch, especially playoff hockey.

TEX 08-19-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10831651)
Part of me wishes that McCoy would just have Rivers chuck deep sideline routes every down to expose how broken these rules are, but then I remember that he isn't an NFL favorite golden-boy and would not be getting bailed out with BS flags.

He sure was last year. What he and the Chargers did last year down the stretch was impressive BUT the Steelers were more impressive and should have been the team with the remarkable run to get in. The Chargers needed "help" and got it from the refs the last game.

Before you point to the Houston game, the right call was made, its just a DUMB rule. The Steelers also got SCREWED against the Ravens late in the seaon by one of those DUMB rules (they overloaded the line of scrimmage on a FG and it was called) Sound familiar?

Nzoner 08-19-2014 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacon Cheeseburger (Post 10831667)
I've been saying that for years. Anyone who plays it has no business complaining about this
Posted via Mobile Device

As you well know I've been an avid FF player since the 90's so I'll take the hit and say I am/was part of the problem,however in all fairness when I started playing defense was still a huge part of the game.

As a true fan of the NFL it does piss me off to see what's become of the league due to FF and as I've stated more than 1000 times it's one of the reasons I believe the NFL is not on the up and up and will do whatever possible in their power to help sway a game to get desired results.

TEX 08-19-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10831681)
The difference is, Tom Brady will get a bogus flag on every single third down to keep his drives going whereas David Carr won't. So it's still more important than anything else that your team gets a marketable glory-boy QB who can draw ref favoritism.

Yep. Just one more way the league is rigged... Brady vs Manning and Rogers vs Brees ought to make "outstanding" conference championship games! :shake:

Chiefs Pantalones 08-19-2014 09:52 AM

SCORE SCORE SCORE!!! POINTS POINTS POINTS!! ADHD ADHD ADHD!!! FANTASY FOOTBALL YAY!!!1111

Ugh this ****ing sucks.

Nzoner 08-19-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10831673)
The weird thing about this is that it'll actually make defensive players more important, which is the opposite of what you'd expect.

If you make football a game where it's expected to score on every possession, then you can do that with average players. It'll decrease the difference between the Tom Brady QBs and the David Carr QBs, because Tom Brady could score against tough defenses while anybody can score against neutered defenses. So it'll be less important to have a top-notch offense because it's so easy to score.

On defense, the key will be to stop an offense for one or two drives in a game. If you can do that you win, because your offense will be scoring every time it's on the field. So even though defenses are going to look terrible, it'll be more important to have a "good" defense that can give up only 31 points per game instead of 40 points per game.

I don't think I really want to watch games like that, but I think that's what will happen. Let me know, because I'll be outside going for a run on Sundays.

Did some research last year and went back about 10 years on Scores and Odds to look at Vegas over/unders (total points scored in a game) and there were plenty of games that Vegas had put in the 37-40 point range.

Last season it was almost impossible to ever find a game with that kind of over/under.

TEX 08-19-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 10831690)
As you well know I've been an avid FF player since the 90's so I'll take the hit and say I am/was part of the problem,however in all fairness when I started playing defense was still a huge part of the game.

As a true fan of the NFL it does piss me off to see what's become of the league due to FF and as I've stated more than 1000 times it's one of the reasons I believe the NFL is not on the up and up and will do whatever
possible in their power to help sway a game to get desired results.

Exactly!
The beauty part about it is they can sit back and do NOTHING ("miss" a call or just look the other way) to influence the game as well. If so damn EASY to sway a game and have the rules ready to go to validate the process. My favorite one is "YOU CANT REVIEW THE PLAY BECAUSE THE WHISTLE BLEW!" LMAO

This is the first time in 15 years that I'm NOT getting NFL Sunday Ticket. I'll watch whatever is on the networks, which means I'll miss many Chiefs games unless I go to a sports bar, but I'm tired of paying to get pissed off watching a manipulated product.


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