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RealSNR 04-12-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9580329)
"if we pick Joke-al, I will JIMP!!!!"

LMAO

"Save some money, trade Albert and Draft Luke..win win"

Dipshittery at it's finest.

Draft Luke, move Albert to guard. It's like you're getting two players for one pick!

FringeNC 04-12-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9580103)
What do all of those QBs I listed have in common?

Right. My point being that Air Raid quarterbacks should perhaps be compared against one another rather than QBs from other systems because Air Raid numbers can be crazy.

To me, Geno Smith is really hard to evaluate. In my mind, given the talent he played with, and given the system, his numbers are nothing special (Case Keenum, Seth Doege, etc.), but he does run a sub-4.6 and have a nice arm.

RealSNR 04-12-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9580374)
Right. My point being that Air Raid quarterbacks should perhaps be compared against one another rather than QBs from other systems because Air Raid numbers can be crazy.

To me, Geno Smith is really hard to evaluate. In my mind, given the talent he played with, and given the system, his numbers are nothing special (Case Keenum, Seth Doege, etc.), but he does run a sub-4.6 and have a nice arm.

Geno's Air Raid is pretty different from what Case Keenum ran. Drastically different, actually.

Thig Lyfe 04-12-2013 11:05 AM

Everybody except Tyler Thigpen.

Thig Lyfe 04-12-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9580317)
It's been said before, but I'll say it again -

The worst thing Geno has done to negatively affect his draft stock was to enter the draft the year after Luck and RGIII. Most any other year he'd be considered a top 3 pick.

Absolutely THIS. People have forgotten that most drafts don't have ANY "sure things" at any position, much less two of em in the most important position of all. The collective memory is short and cloudy.

Imon Yourside 04-12-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe (Post 9580392)
Everybody and especially Tyler Thigpen.

fyp.

RunKC 04-12-2013 11:14 AM

Hindsight is strong in this thread.

And the worst thing Geno did was not enter the draft after Luck like people stupidly claim. He was well worth the first pick in September and October. He played worse as the year went on compared to his first handful of games. Can only blame himself.

rico 04-12-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9580405)
Hindsight is strong in this thread.

And the worst thing Geno did was not enter the draft after Luck like people stupidly claim. He was well worth the first pick in September and October. He played worse as the year went on compared to his first handful of games. Can only blame himself.

Yup.

Chief_For_Life58 04-12-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9579729)
GENO IS TEH GOAT PROSPECT EVAR

dis

B14ckmon 04-12-2013 11:49 AM

If he goes to the Jaguars he will be better than any of them. Geno to Blackmon will go down as the best combo since Young to Rice.

Bowser 04-12-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9580405)
Hindsight is strong in this thread.

And the worst thing Geno did was not enter the draft after Luck like people stupidly claim. He was well worth the first pick in September and October. He played worse as the year went on compared to his first handful of games. Can only blame himself.

Yeah, those six picks he threw all year are a real deal breaker.

He had bad games for him against K-State and Texas Tech. The Syracuse game was a pretty average game by anyone's standards, but a poorly called game by his coordinator.

The guy equaled RGIII's production his last year in college minus the rushing yards, but only has himself to blame. Makes zero sense whatsoever.

Bowser 04-12-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9580493)
If he goes to the Jaguars he will be better than any of them. Geno to Blackmon will go down as the best combo since Young to Rice.

You've really embraced this troll personna. Applause for you.

RunKC 04-12-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9580033)
Nice pass.

It doesn't change the fact that Stafford played in a more vertical scheme at Georgia. The chart was posted about the majority of Geno's passes being short routes and screen passes.

I'm not knocking him, but I don't think he's the prospect Stafford was.

From secondroundstats:


Geno throws a huge number of screens. Last year, the average quarterbacks threw screens 17% of the time. Smith threw screens on 30% of all his passes! Given that the success rate of screens is so high, that means his overall completion percentage is inflated.

His throws are close to the line of scrimmage. In total, 45% of his passes (including screens) were thrown within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.

That of course means he’s not throwing many deep passes. Only 27% of Geno’s passes went further than 10 yards, compared to 37% for the average quarterback.

http://nugap.files.wordpress.com/201...ithtargets.gif

http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/...outing-report/

And Geno's deep ball accuracy was below the average QB's as well.

The stats are on The Bad Guy's side.

ayleswbj 04-12-2013 01:17 PM

GENO VS CHASE

GENO

2010* West Virginia Big East SO QB 241 372 64.8 2763 7.4 7.9 24 7

2011* West Virginia Big East JR QB 346 526 65.8 4385 8.3 8.9 31 7 152.6
2012* West Virginia Big 12 SR QB 369 518 71.2 4205 8.1 9.2 42 6 163.9
Career West Virginia 988 1465 67.4 11662 8.0 8.7 98 21 153.5

CHASE:
2006* Missouri Big 12 SO QB 287 452 63.5 3527 7.8 8.0 28 10 145.1
2007* Missouri Big 12 JR QB 384 563 68.2 4306 7.6 7.9 33 11 147.9
2008* Missouri Big 12 SR QB 385 528 72.9 4335 8.2 8.2 39 18 159.4
Career Missouri 1094 1609 68.0 12515 7.8 7.9 101 41 148.9

Both ran identical forms of the spread, I imagine there careers will end up about the same. Take the left tackle, Alex gonna Ball!!

keg in kc 04-12-2013 01:18 PM

42 TD and 6 picks versus 39 TD and 18 picks.

Yep, they're the same.

Not to mention one of them is about 4'9.


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