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Pasta Little Brioni 06-06-2017 11:27 AM

Knowmo, you will be bad, but not bad enough to get Sam. Chiefs get a franchise guy and you are left holding your dicks with Lynch (a guy Dorse baited u into drafting)Love it!

Quesadilla Joe 06-13-2017 05:29 PM

First Look: Scouting Wyoming QB Josh Allen
By Daniel Jeremiah


Spoiler!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...edium=referral

RunKC 06-13-2017 07:54 PM

Josh Allen is ahead of Mahomes bc he is more mobile and is learning under a pro style system.
Mahomes has the most proven HC to develop QB's in the league teaching him.

Mahomes was well ahead of Paxton Lynch last season. The draft doesn't lie. Elite QB coaches wanted Mahomes at 11 and 13 before Andy got him at 10.

Lynch almost fell to the 2nd rd bc nobody wanted him until late.

staylor26 06-14-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12915409)
Josh Allen is ahead of Mahomes bc he is more mobile and is learning under a pro style system.
Mahomes has the most proven HC to develop QB's in the league teaching him.

Mahomes was well ahead of Paxton Lynch last season. The draft doesn't lie. Elite QB coaches wanted Mahomes at 11 and 13 before Andy got him at 10.

Lynch almost fell to the 2nd rd bc nobody wanted him until late.

It's hilarious that KnowMo continues to ignore these facts because of a tweet from one talking head

LMAO

Quesadilla Joe 06-14-2017 08:09 AM

If those "elite QB coaches" really wanted Mahomes they would've traded up to get him instead of allowing KC to trade up 17 spots. Sure, if Mahomes was sitting there at their pick they might've drafted him, but they weren't going to move up to get him.

KC traded up for Mahomes because they knew they wouldn't be able to get a QB next year. Don't forget, the Chiefs wanted Lynch last year and they knew they couldn't afford to miss out on QB's in 2016, 2017, AND 2018. They were desperate to find Alex Smith's replacement, ASAP.

staylor26 06-14-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12915853)
If those "elite QB coaches" really wanted Mahomes they would've traded up to get him instead of allowing KC to trade up 17 spots. Sure, if Mahomes was sitting there at their pick they might've drafted him, but they weren't going to move up to get him.

KC traded up for Mahomes because they knew they wouldn't be able to get a QB next year. Don't forget, the Chiefs wanted Lynch last year and they knew they couldn't afford to miss out on QB's in 2016, 2017, AND 2018. They were desperate to find Alex Smith's replacement, ASAP.

The irony of you saying this then telling us that the Chiefs really wanted Lynch

:facepalm:

Also, it's a fact that the Saints wanted him. Somebody that was in the war room confirmed. You can't even dispute that.

The funny thing too is, nobody saw the Chiefs trading up to 10, while everybody could see Denver trading up from a mile away.

Quesadilla Joe 06-14-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12915924)

The funny thing too is, nobody saw the Chiefs trading up to 10, while everybody could see Denver trading up from a mile away.

An hour before the draft started there were multiple reports saying that the Chiefs were trying to trade up to 10. The Chiefs were calling every team picking between 5-15 trying to find a suitable spot to trade up. The entire league knew what KC was up to.

Elway had the entire NFL thinking he was going to trade for Colin Kaepernick.

staylor26 06-14-2017 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12916061)
An hour before the draft started there were multiple reports saying that the Chiefs were trying to trade up to 10. The Chiefs were calling every team picking between 5-15 trying to find a suitable spot to trade up. The entire league knew what KC was up to.

Elway had the entire NFL thinking he was going to trade for Colin Kaepernick.

Give me a ****ing break. There was one report in an ocean of rumors and misinformation. In no way shape or form was the Chiefs trade up as obvious as the Broncos.

There were a plenty of mocks weeks before (maybe even months) that had the Broncos trading up for Lynch. I myself called it months before on CP.

Quesadilla Joe 06-14-2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12916094)
Give me a ****ing break. There was one report in an ocean of rumors and misinformation. In no way shape or form was the Chiefs trade up as obvious as the Broncos.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The team making the most noise right now about moving up, maybe even into the Top 10 — The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCChiefs?src=hash">#KCChiefs</a>. Due diligence or…?</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857725761956007941">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Word from a league source: Chiefs trying to move up, but for an ILB and not a QB. Reuben Foster/Jarrad Davis maybe?</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/857734673816059904">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those close to Patrick Mahomes think he will land in KC, Houston or Arizona.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/857746370714906625">April 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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12. TRADE — Kansas City Chiefs: Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech



This is the only trade I will outright predict. Former Chiefs assistant GM Chris Ballard was a supporter of Mahomes during his time in Kansas City, and GM John Dorsey and Andy Reid trust him. Their first, second and fourth this year and second next year should be enough for a Browns team that wants to move down.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/list...gba1a/slide/12

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12916094)
There were a plenty of mocks weeks before (maybe even months) that had the Broncos trading up for Lynch. I myself called it months before on CP.

Mocks LMAO Sure they're fun to look at, but there are only a handful that really mean anything and they don't come out until a day before the draft.

I never really considered Paxton Lynch as an option because I thought for sure he'd go in the top 10/15 picks. It wasn't until he slipped past the Jets at 20 that I really thought it was a possibility. You have to remember, Denver was picking at 31 and Elway wasn't going to give up an arm and a leg in a trade.

staylor26 06-14-2017 11:27 AM

:facepalm:

Not one of those tweets is a prediction that the Chiefs will trade up for Mahomes

Quesadilla Joe 06-14-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12916279)
:facepalm:

Not one of those tweets is a prediction that the Chiefs will trade up for Mahomes

Every NFL team knew that KC was trading up. They may not have known exactly who they wanted, but it was obvious that it was for one of the QB's.

staylor26 06-14-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12916304)
Every NFL team knew that KC was trading up. They may not have known exactly who they wanted, but it was obvious that it was for one of the QB's.

Yea, ok ROFL

RunKC 06-14-2017 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12915853)
If those "elite QB coaches" really wanted Mahomes they would've traded up to get him instead of allowing KC to trade up 17 spots. Sure, if Mahomes was sitting there at their pick they might've drafted him, but they weren't going to move up to get him.

KC traded up for Mahomes because they knew they wouldn't be able to get a QB next year. Don't forget, the Chiefs wanted Lynch last year and they knew they couldn't afford to miss out on QB's in 2016, 2017, AND 2018. They were desperate to find Alex Smith's replacement, ASAP.

If the Chiefs really wanted Lynch they would have traded more resources to get him with Dorsey's long time colleague from GB John Schneider.

The fact that the Chiefs didn't offer much (or anything) to trade up for Lynch but then gave up what they did for Mahomes tells you all you need to know.

Bottom line is Paxton Lynch was a QB KC liked. Pat Mahomes was a QB they loved.

Quesadilla Joe 06-14-2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12916311)
Yea, ok ROFL

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At one point discussion turned to the rest of the first round. Peters heard reliably that Kansas City, picking 27th, was moving way up to Tennessee at five. Presumably for a quarterback. “I hear it’s for a one, two, four and next year’s one,” Shanahan said. “They offered that to Tennessee.”
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/s...ter-peter-king

Quesadilla Joe 06-14-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12916317)
If the Chiefs really wanted Lynch they would have traded more resources to get him with Dorsey's long time colleague from GB John Schneider.

The Chiefs didn't have a third round pick and Denver did. Dorsey gambled thinking that Lynch would fall two more picks and got burned.


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