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BossChief 05-02-2013 07:28 PM

Of course he is looking good...he's facing Jalil Brown.

Just like training camp 2012.

-King- 05-02-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9653736)
Of course he is looking good...he's facing Jalil Brown.

Just like training camp 2012.

Jalil Brown was actually the one who gave him the most trouble last year.
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splatbass 05-02-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9652512)
What good is an All-World line if you don't have a playmaker at quarterback behind them?

What good is a playmaker at QB if you don't have a good OL to protect him?

-King- 05-02-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9653993)
What good is a playmaker at QB if you don't have a good OL to protect him?

I don't know. Ask Aaron Rodgers.

ChiefAshhole20 05-02-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9653665)
being the rational adult that I am

I said Alex Smith lies somewhere between Trent Dilfer and Trent Green. Dilfer being his floor, Green being his ceiling.

the kicking and screaming over this is ridiculous now...CLEARLY, there were no QB's to take in this year's draft that would have been an immediate improvement over Matt Cassel. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have a single QB on their draft board...

so it's who cares now?

Reid is paid to ****ing win. Dorsey is paid to ****ing win. They gave a few picks for the best available QB (key word: available).

I realize CP doesn't understand the draft, at all...(not one bit)...

so again (and I have never received a rebuttal to this point)...

please go over the past 10 years of drafts and research picks 30-45 and then report back on how often you find a pro bowl caliber player with those picks

please use percentages

because people are acting like these two 2nds for Smith was like trading 2 all-pros for the damn guy when in reality AT THE VERY WORST we traded Brandon Flowers and say Dexter McCluster for Alex Smith.

And with the way KC drafted this year in the mid-rounds, it may have actually been a blessing that we gave away that second round pick. They probably would've wasted it on Gio Bernard or Zach Ertz.

Anyong Bluth 05-02-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9653993)
What good is a playmaker at QB if you don't have a good OL to protect him?

Finally someone else mentioned it because I wanted to see if anyone else found the irony that a Chargers fan would post this when their QB was getting manhandled all last year and gave them no protection to use those "supposed" weapons.
Maybe one of the few arguments that beady eyed **** actually had to justify some of his classic on field temper tantrums or misplaced fits of rage he displays that make him look like such a runny little sour-twat.

Baby Lee 05-03-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9653673)
Even if you believe that drafting a "great" player in the second is a statistical long shot, the bigger problem is that teams still (and rightfully so) highly value the picks.

Thus, paying two second-round picks for Smith shows, from my perspective, a commitment. Even if he plays at a mediocre level, I don't see the Chiefs essentially flushing this investment.

Rather, they'll throw more resources at the situation, thus further exasperating the problem.

exacerbating != exasperating.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-03-2013 10:12 AM

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5 most worrisome left tackle situations: 1. #Chargers, Dunlap 2. #Dolphins, Martin 3. #Cardinals, Brown 4. #Lions, Reiff 5. #Packers, Bulaga

Mother****erJones 05-03-2013 10:19 AM

I'd hold the dolphins fins to the fire if they end up wanting Albert. Though I'd be very happy re-signing Albert

Marcellus 05-03-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9654004)
I don't know. Ask Aaron Rodgers.

I am 100% certain GB would be better off and Aaron Rodgers would love to have 1 decent tackle let alone 2.

Dude's career is going to be shortened 5 years at the rate he is getting plowed.

raypec85 05-03-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9654879)
I'd hold the dolphins fins to the fire if they end up wanting Albert. Though I'd be very happy re-signing Albert

LMAO

HemiEd 05-03-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9652628)
you can't be serious

I think Hog Farmer has resorted to trolling.

HemiEd 05-03-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9652960)
Trent Green wasn't average.
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He sure wasn't a franchise QB just because he was one of the best of all the retread/rejects this team has had on it's roster for the last 30 years.

saphojunkie 05-03-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9654949)
He sure wasn't a franchise QB just because he was one of the best of all the retread/rejects this team has had on it's roster for the last 30 years.

Hmm, let me think about this.

Last year:
  • ten QBs had ratings above 90.
  • only five QBs threw over 30 TD.
  • Only one (Drew Brees) threw 40 TD.
  • Only five starting QB had more INT than TD. (Cassel is easily at the bottom. 6 TD and 12 INT. ****ing piece of shit).


Now, here are Trent Green's best four years:

GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
16 287 470 61.1 ... 3,690 7.85 26 99 13 0 -- 92.6
16 330 523 63.1 ... 4,039 7.72 24 67 12 4 -- 92.6
16 369 556 66.4 ... 4,591 8.26 27 70 17 10 -- 95.2
16 317 507 62.5 ...4,014 7.92 17 60 10 5 -- 90.1


His averages over his four best years would have (last season) made him:


#9 Rating
#14 TD
#4 YPA
#8 Yards Thrown
#9 CMP %

His statistics during his best year would have made him:

#9 Rating
#7 TD
#7 Yards
#4 CP%
#2 YPA


So, I think it is fair to say that he was an above average QB whose OL allowed him to play at a very high level - to 10 in almost every category. If he had thrown a handful more screens to Priest Holmes instead of the toss sweep, he'd be elite in TD also.

Playoff wins kept Green from being elite. But he absolutely was a franchise QB until his brain got scrambled.

Rausch 05-03-2013 11:22 AM

So Albert is still here and he's playing LT?

Just checking...


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