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Neurotica 05-19-2018 07:50 PM

Those writers are just high.


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Pasta Little Brioni 05-19-2018 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13562353)
If they stay healthy this year and their o-line improves they will win the division easily with the Chiefs,Donks and Faiders fighting for 2nd place IMHO.

Chiefs literally have a rookie QB still cutting his teeth and our defense is in rebuild mode. Donks have a solid defense with questions at QB,o-line and RB, the Faiders still have serious questions on D and will Carr be able to endure Gruden's grinding.

The Chiefs,Donks and Faiders will all be in contention for 2nd place IMHO.

Division record will look something like this IMHO.

1. Chargers 12-4
2. Chiefs 9-7
3. Faiders 8-8
4. Donks 7-9

You are one dumb sum bitch. They aren't winning 12 quack...

Halfcan 05-20-2018 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13562353)
If they stay healthy this year and their o-line improves they will win the division easily with the Chiefs,Donks and Faiders fighting for 2nd place IMHO.

Chiefs literally have a rookie QB still cutting his teeth and our defense is in rebuild mode. Donks have a solid defense with questions at QB,o-line and RB, the Faiders still have serious questions on D and will Carr be able to endure Gruden's grinding.

The Chiefs,Donks and Faiders will all be in contention for 2nd place IMHO.

Division record will look something like this IMHO.

1. Chargers 12-4
2. Chiefs 9-7
3. Faiders 8-8
4. Donks 7-9

ROFL This is said about the Chargers every year.

Mahomes is in his 2nd year btw- he is not a Rookie. And the defense has been rebuilt. Every position will be better.

Chiefshrink 05-20-2018 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13562585)
You are one dumb sum bitch. They aren't winning 12 quack...

Such a substantive rebuttal:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13563202)
ROFL This is said about the Chargers every year.

Mahomes is in his 2nd year btw- he is not a Rookie. And the defense has been rebuilt. Every position will be better.

Like I said IF the Chargers stay healthy they have all the pieces in place. 1 game has not cut all of Mahomes teeth my friend. You can split hairs all you want about the technicality of his play in his 2nd year and say he is not a rookie BUT we will see some ROOKIE MISTAKES in his 2nd year for sure. You knew what I meant.:rolleyes:

Defense has not been rebuilt. It is in the process of being rebuilt. Big difference.

FringeNC 05-20-2018 05:36 PM

Why go against the Chiefs? Outside of a few down years in Philly when Andy strayed from his blueprint, he cleans up during the regular season.

Hydrae 05-20-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Neurotica (Post 13562547)
Those writers are just high.


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Wow, first post 7 months after joining. Welcome! :thumb:

Halfcan 05-20-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13563413)
Such a substantive rebuttal:rolleyes:



Like I said IF the Chargers stay healthy they have all the pieces in place. 1 game has not cut all of Mahomes teeth my friend. You can split hairs all you want about the technicality of his play in his 2nd year and say he is not a rookie BUT we will see some ROOKIE MISTAKES in his 2nd year for sure. You knew what I meant.:rolleyes:

Defense has not been rebuilt. It is in the process of being rebuilt. Big difference.

It is not splitting hairs- you stated Mahomes is a Rookie and in fact, he is not a Rookie. He will have 2 training camps, 2 preseasons worth of games, a year of studying under Alex, and his first win on the road under his belt before he faces Old Man Rivers.

Chiefs had all kinds of injuries last year- we lost several starters and still swept the Chargers and their "healthy" team. We have swept them 4 years in a row- is that all because they weren't healthy? But this year-oh boy they have it all in place. ROFL

Other QB's have had great 2nd years in the NFL including Marino- but somehow Mahomes is going to be costing us the playoffs with so many Rookie Mistakes- (even though he is NOT a rookie).

Gadzooks 05-20-2018 07:58 PM

It's strange, in the NHL there's a minimum amount of games that need to be played in a season before you give up your rookie status, (30 or something). Since the NFL season has so few games, I guess you pop your rookie cherry as soon as you take the field, even if it's only to take the kneel downs.
I'll bet that ****ed a lot of "second year" guys out of ROTY awards that I'd imagine come with a bonus.

Chiefshrink 05-21-2018 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13563485)
It is not splitting hairs- you stated Mahomes is a Rookie and in fact, he is not a Rookie. He will have 2 training camps, 2 preseasons worth of games, a year of studying under Alex, and his first win on the road under his belt before he faces Old Man Rivers.

Chiefs had all kinds of injuries last year- we lost several starters and still swept the Chargers and their "healthy" team. We have swept them 4 years in a row- is that all because they weren't healthy? But this year-oh boy they have it all in place. ROFL

Other QB's have had great 2nd years in the NFL including Marino- but somehow Mahomes is going to be costing us the playoffs with so many Rookie Mistakes- (even though he is NOT a rookie).

Technically no he is not a rookie but you knew what I meant. He will have 1 training camp as a starter, he will have 1 pre-season worth of games as a starter, he will have 1 yr without Alex being his "binky" with only 1 NFL game under his belt that really meant nothing to the opposition, but the upside of that game was that he did what he was supposed to do to lead and win that game regardless.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see as few ROOKIE mistakes as possible in his 2nd year. I want him to rock it for sure. BUT be emotional prepared for growing pains and losses is all I am saying especially with a defense that is still in rebuild mode. Like I have said before, at least we will have a QB now who will make mistakes being aggressive trying to make a play downfield thus more likely than not we will always be in the game until the very end.

I get all the excitement and not trying to be a wet blanket here:shake: but I am realistic as well which I think many here are not. :shrug:

Aside from his physical talent the biggest plus I see is his "moxy maturity" and his love for the game and his intense passionate drive to win.:thumb:

Chiefshrink 05-21-2018 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 13563564)
It's strange, in the NHL there's a minimum amount of games that need to be played in a season before you give up your rookie status, (30 or something). Since the NFL season has so few games, I guess you pop your rookie cherry as soon as you take the field, even if it's only to take the kneel downs.

Exactly my point.;)

Lzen 05-21-2018 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13562353)
If they stay healthy this year and their o-line improves they will win the division easily with the Chiefs,Donks and Faiders fighting for 2nd place IMHO.

Chiefs literally have a rookie QB still cutting his teeth and our defense is in rebuild mode. Donks have a solid defense with questions at QB,o-line and RB, the Faiders still have serious questions on D and will Carr be able to endure Gruden's grinding.

The Chiefs,Donks and Faiders will all be in contention for 2nd place IMHO.

Division record will look something like this IMHO.

1. Chargers 12-4
2. Chiefs 9-7
3. Faiders 8-8
4. Donks 7-9

ROFLROFL

BryanBusby 05-21-2018 07:28 AM

**** off, quack.

Danguardace 05-21-2018 07:29 AM

Chargers have been that semi fashionable pick for some time, I guess if people keep saying it they will be right eventually.

Lzen 05-21-2018 07:31 AM

I agree with Chiefshrink about Mahommes still being nearly a rookie. The difference with a guy like Marino is that he started all season his rookie year, IIRC. However, Mahommes will open up the offense because he will use the whole field and not be afraid to make certain throws. Defenses will pay if they try to stack the box and play short zones.

And yes, the defense is in a rebuild and there is more to be done. That being said, I believe the defense will be improved this season. How much? That remains to be seen. But I believe we will see a noticeable improvement from that unit.

Halfcan 05-21-2018 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13563747)
Technically no he is not a rookie but you knew what I meant. He will have 1 training camp as a starter, he will have 1 pre-season worth of games as a starter, he will have 1 yr without Alex being his "binky" with only 1 NFL game under his belt that really meant nothing to the opposition, but the upside of that game was that he did what he was supposed to do to lead and win that game regardless.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see as few ROOKIE mistakes as possible in his 2nd year. I want him to rock it for sure. BUT be emotional prepared for growing pains and losses is all I am saying especially with a defense that is still in rebuild mode. Like I have said before, at least we will have a QB now who will make mistakes being aggressive trying to make a play downfield thus more likely than not we will always be in the game until the very end.

I get all the excitement and not trying to be a wet blanket here:shake: but I am realistic as well which I think many here are not. :shrug:

Aside from his physical talent the biggest plus I see is his "moxy maturity" and his love for the game and his intense passionate drive to win.:thumb:

What is with all the baby references? Cutting teeth (twice) and now binky? You are talking as if Mahomes is some little baby that will be coughing up the ball. And if Mahomes does throw an INT it is a mistake- not sure why you keep tagging on ROOKIE Mistake- because once again- he is Not a rookie.

You say you are not trying to be a wet blanket (baby reference) but are pimping a team that has not beat us in 4 years and has an aging, immobile QB who is the King of "Rookie" mistakes when it comes to ball security and closing out games. It would be great if you had an original opinion instead of just quoting the same thing in the media- Rookie QB / shitty defense- won't make the playoffs. I think you are all discounting Mahomes- he stepped into the QB position in college with very little experience and was able to keep the job over a couple of good QB's. Personally, I think after winning in Denver he should have stayed the starter and we would have won that playoff game. Alex was terrible.

RunKC 05-21-2018 09:01 AM

Steve Wyche thinks Derwin James is going to be a great player this year but Patrick Mahomes is a major question mark? Seriously? Derwin James hasn’t played a single down FFS.

And James Palmer is the ultimate Mule Tool. “Errr Jake Butte gonna be so good he got my butthole feeling happy but ermergherd Pat Mahomes is full of question marks.”

I hope Mahomes explodes this year so these so called analyst can shut the **** up. We win 15 of the last 16 division games and still no respect.

NWTF 05-21-2018 09:19 AM

The Chargers are the safe pick with the least unknowns.

Youve got new QBs on two of the other teams and a new coaching staff on the other. Any of them could surprise and elevate their team past the Chargers but seems most writers are taking the safe bet. I dont see the Chargers as Super Bowl contenders but I can see them as the early AFC west pick.

Ming the Merciless 05-21-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Neurotica (Post 13562547)
Those writers are just high.


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quality 1st post


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Pasta Little Brioni 05-21-2018 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 13563847)
The Chargers are the safe pick with the least unknowns.

Youve got new QBs on two of the other teams and a new coaching staff on the other. Any of them could surprise and elevate their team past the Chargers but seems most writers are taking the safe bet. I dont see the Chargers as Super Bowl contenders but I can see them as the early AFC west pick.

Until they actually beat the Chiefs, we still look down on them...

FIFTEEN and one against this pathetic division ROFL The one liss a fluke Faider win after 10 bogus penalties

Rain Man 05-21-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13563890)
Until they actually beat the Chiefs, we still look down on them...

FIFTEEN and one against this pathetic division ROFL The one liss a fluke Faider win after 10 bogus penalties

The Chiefs were ahead in that game several plays after the game ended.

GoChargers 05-21-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 13563847)
The Chargers are the safe pick with the least unknowns.

Youve got new QBs on two of the other teams and a new coaching staff on the other. Any of them could surprise and elevate their team past the Chargers but seems most writers are taking the safe bet. I dont see the Chargers as Super Bowl contenders but I can see them as the early AFC west pick.

As long as the Spanos family owns the Chargers, they will only be the "safe bet" to underachieve.

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-21-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13557287)
I think based on the NFL's trend to gift a SB win to aging QB's (The Manning legacy) the Chargers will win one before Rivers retires.

Then how come Brett Favre wasn't gifted one? He and the Vikings got royally screwed by the refs in that NFC Championship game. Yeah, I know about the INT but in overtime, the Saints were gifted calls.

Gadzooks 05-21-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 13564235)
Then how come Brett Favre wasn't gifted one? He and the Vikings got royally screwed by the refs in that NFC Championship game. Yeah, I know about the INT but in overtime, the Saints were gifted calls.

Farve had already won one, (so had Payton). If there's such a thing as gifting SBs, Rivers would deserve it.
He got caught up in ShEli's pussy move in the draft to not play in SD. Pitt wanted Rivers, The Giants wanted Rapelisburger after ShEli. It should've gone:
1. ShEli
4. Rape
11. Rivers
NYG GM Ernie Accorsi had a hard-on for ShEli since he'd missed out on Elway with his pussy draft move years earlier, refusing to play for the Colts while Accorsi was the GM in Indy.
Rivers would have won a SB in his first season in Pittsburgh, just like Rape did because w/ Pitt's defense it didn't matter who you trotted out as a QB. Rape was horrible in his first season but it couldn't stop that defense.
If he went to the Giants they would've won but it wouldn't have been half as entertaining since it wouldn't have involved the last second heroics ShEli pulled out of her ass.
(sure I've had a couple of few beers, but the above writing is pretty solid historical football analysis)

SuperBowl4 05-22-2018 10:52 AM

Because they are high?

Strongside 05-22-2018 12:20 PM

Title of this thread should just be "Why are so many National writers so high?"

Quesadilla Joe 05-22-2018 07:42 PM

Why does this always happen to the Chargers?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunner from LA: Chargers’ TE Hunter Henry suffered a season-ending torn ACL today, per league source. Did it during a drill, running downfield, untouched. Second opinion coming Wednesday.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/999102898561744896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Pasta Little Brioni 05-22-2018 07:58 PM

Still better than last place Denver

Best22 05-22-2018 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13565830)
Why does this always happen to the Chargers?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunner from LA: Chargers’ TE Hunter Henry suffered a season-ending torn ACL today, per league source. Did it during a drill, running downfield, untouched. Second opinion coming Wednesday.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/999102898561744896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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No idea

Different city. Different coaching staff. Different training staff

But it's all still the same...

RunKC 05-22-2018 09:15 PM

They let Gates go too. They now have Sean McGrath at TE.

Same old Chargers.

Halfcan 05-23-2018 08:20 AM

But guys- the Chargers are going 12-4. lol

I guess the post beginning with "If the Chargers can stay healthy" are now obsolete.

TEX 05-23-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13557285)
Flavor of the off-season or are the Chargers a legit Super Bowl contender.

Let's discuss in here.

Least amount of changes in the division. Pretty good core on both sides of the ball. But least amount of change is the biggest reason.

WhiteWhale 05-23-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 13564722)
Farve had already won one, (so had Payton). If there's such a thing as gifting SBs, Rivers would deserve it.
He got caught up in ShEli's pussy move in the draft to not play in SD. Pitt wanted Rivers, The Giants wanted Rapelisburger after ShEli. It should've gone:
1. ShEli
4. Rape
11. Rivers
NYG GM Ernie Accorsi had a hard-on for ShEli since he'd missed out on Elway with his pussy draft move years earlier, refusing to play for the Colts while Accorsi was the GM in Indy.
Rivers would have won a SB in his first season in Pittsburgh, just like Rape did because w/ Pitt's defense it didn't matter who you trotted out as a QB. Rape was horrible in his first season but it couldn't stop that defense.
If he went to the Giants they would've won but it wouldn't have been half as entertaining since it wouldn't have involved the last second heroics ShEli pulled out of her ass.
(sure I've had a couple of few beers, but the above writing is pretty solid historical football analysis)

If it didn't matter who was QB why were the 2003 Steelers 6-10 and the 2004 steelers 15-1?

They kept the reigns on him with low attempts, but Ben averaged 8.9 YPA and had a QB rating of 98.

That's not horrible at all. Especially from a rookie who had not played in a pro style offense.

I'll also point out that Rivers had, arguably, the most talented supporting cast in the entire league for at least 3 seasons and accomplished NOTHING with it.


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