In terms of life of contract then no shit. Cousins should/will be cheaper year 1.

Yeah a lot less. Someone is gonna pay a stupid amount for Cousins.

We're going to have ample chances to improve this defense, whether it be via FA or draft. The biggest change shall be at DC, however.

Yep, but way different circumstances. You saw the game. Tenn had no answer for Kelce.

Ok thanks

He's not the reason you lost that playoff game.

Absolutely correct.

But when though. Sutton should have been fired 48 hours ago.

No they didn't, but we have other options. Kelce was out and they didn't have an answer for Robinson right before half. It's up to the QB to make it happen with what he has to work with. Smith didn't do it in the 2nd half. Not the first time we have seen this either.

Alex Smith Money.

Part of the reason. He definitely didn’t do the team any favors that 2nd half. That 3rd and 9 play sums up Smith perfectly.

You're an idiot..

The reason there's no 'discussion' of the defensive melt down is because everyone agrees that the defense had a good 1st half and a bad second half.

You don't have a small group of creepy stalker weirdos trying to argue that because they had a great 1st half that they shouldn't be held accountable for failing in the second half.

It's not rocket science....

Ample???? We only have 2cd, 3rd, 4th and 6th round picks.
The Chiefs are not shopping Smith. They are just willing to listen to offers. If we don't trade him, which I think we probably will, there will not be much cap to sign that many players.

Of course he is. We didn't score a single TD in the second half.

Many times when a player first goes out, the replacement sets are successful. However, Tenn knew Kelce wasn't coming back at half and adjusted for it. I agree it is up to the QB to make it work with what is available - Up to the DC to do the same thing. Both failed. Still, my point was that Kelce going out changed things dramatically. I get your point about Smith -

Why?

Let's get him to one of the New York teams. Alexuals would get killed. Remember the Mets message board during the World Series.

The Chiefs will have plenty of cap space after they make roster moves. Just trading Smith frees up a ton.

I just hope Veach shows more understanding of cap manipulation than Dorsey did, because he ****ing sucked at it.

Aren't the Jets rumored to want Alex as well?

Fair enough! :thumb:

There's no chance Alex Smith isn't traded. That's going to get you cap room and draft pick(s).

It was very much a team loss. Coaches failed, special teams failed, defense failed big time, and the offense didn't finish strong.

At this point the big weakness on the team is defense with a lot of older players that need to be replaced. Trading Smith will help in two ways since they should be able to get draft picks...and they will save $17m that they can spend on defensive talent.

You people with your gay fascination. I think KC has overtaken San Fran as the gay capital of the world. Congrats KC!

Or teams could just wait knowing the Chiefs will release him. In that case the only hope is Cleveland because who would voluntarily sign with the Browns?

Only because of all the gays that followed Smith to KC.

Teams are going to have to try to trade for him, as he is likely to have multiple suitors. It'll be a bidding war.

We did bring the biggest queer in SF over to be our QB.

Dorsey needs to give us that #4 pick. Mahomes to Ridley and Hill. Pure organism.

WADR, if we had the #4 pick and didn't use it on defense, I'd be so ****ing pissed.

Top ten picks should never be used on RBs nor WRs. They are a dime a dozen almost over the draft. Our 3rd rounder just led the league in rushing. Charles was a bad ass and never sniffed the first round as well.

Times are changing. Zeke was worth the pick. Doubt the jags regret the fournette pick. Saquon is a special pick that he'll be worth it as well. I don't like overvaluing RBs either. But times are changing.

Nah

The cowboys could have had Jalen Ramsey at 4 and a rb in the 2nd round

Hindsight, but I believe if JAX could go back and take Watson/Mahomes with Kamara/Hunt later on, they'd do it

In the top 5 I want QB’s and pass rushers.

I see on WalterFootball's mock they have Cleveland taking Michigan DT Maurice Hurst with the 35th pick. I watched that guy absolutely wreck some games this year. So explosive off the ball.

If we can get that pick and he is somehow there, that'd be great.

I have trust issues with Reid and moving on from players and coaches that he respects.
Lets also not forget that this could be the off season that Peters wants an extension. That won't be cheap.

A top 5 pick for Alex Smith? C'mon man! LOL if we get Arizona's #15 in the 2nd round I'll be ecstatic. Best case is Cleveland's 2nd round pick #33?

Saints turned a shit defense into a quality defense in 2 offseasons. We can turn this around with better coaching, money for FA’s and a hitting on our picks.

A lot of truth in this post.

We have our QB now so ALL fatties can come on down.

I've been thinking this for a while now. QBing in the NFL has NEVER been worse, and this is a terrible draft class. I legit think all of the following teams will strongly pursue Smith, which equals a legit bidding war:

Bills
Jets
Browns
Jags
Cardinals

And you might even be able to throw in:

Giants
Redskins (if Cousins leaves, duh)
Broncos (probably get shut down instantly)

And as it goes, as a Smiff hater, he would help all those teams, particularly a team like the Jags. After they get bounced badly this week, you know they'll be wishing they had a net-positive at QB to compliment their great defense rather than ****ing Bortion.

No but he was the reason they weren't sitting at home waiting to see who they would meet in the divisional round on a bye week.

Alex to Arizona

Tyrod to Jax

Cousins to Cleveland

And why Andy panicked and sh** the bed in play calling going sideways and conservative as if he were setting on a lead that he could afford because we have such an elite defense according to some:rolleyes:

Has anyone considered that maybe andy didn’t actually change his play calling but smith just started checking down and panicking?

Yeah I'm sure the Jags were very impressed with Tyrod up close and personal yesterday. Lol

Raises hand. I've said it multiple times.

We will probably find out next year.

Andy's play calling is not the problem. We have all seen the 22's. Smith screws up all the time. It's not Andy calling for Smith to only throw sideways.

Holy shit :facepalm:

How are people this clueless?

Enlighten us to the actual play calls then...

I think there is an added bonus attraction for teams wanting AS not just because he can be a good game mgr and right the ship but especially for those teams that really want to draft a QB in the first rd and want him to set like PM2 to at least learn the game thus giving their rookie a chance.

Alex mentoring PM2 and all the PR hype that has gotten all year and PM2's solid showing against Denver which is evidence that AS's mentoring has been effective should net us an additional pick or 2 in this "King's Ransom I would think.:shrug:

Dorsey has the picks and is he in a position to say FU Reid and not deal with us or will he be able to set aside his bruised ego and do what is right for the Browns is the real question ? Heck for all we know he may not even like AS as a QB:shrug:

The entire national media is criticizing the second half play calling. Play calling that Reid admitted was his doing.

He didn't admit that at all... he just gave some clear coachspeak BS.

It doesn't matter who was calling plays, it's not Reid or Nagy's fault when the QB refuses to attempt throws that he should.

Nagy prepped for his interview with the Bears. He deferred play calling that game to Reid.

There is no way this happens.

Alex gonna get us a first and a third

Cleveland would be reeruned to get Smith.


Cold Weather - Check
Strong arm required to cut through the wind - Check
Terrible Surrounding Players - Check
Mongoloid Coach - Check


No way. There is just no way they should trade for him, and if they do the factory of sadness will continue to churn on the failure.

that would be awesome

What team do you see giving up a 1st for Alex Smith?

You think a team with a top 10 pick like the Browns, Broncos, or Jets are trading that pick for Alex Smith?

Who is left? Arizona at 15? Ya right.

Then who? Jaguars?

They’re gonna draft a qb at 1. They could have smith for a year to groom him

Maybe?

Arizona would be my guess.

Maybe Jacksonville or buffalo

Jacksonville or Arizona meets all the requirements for Smith's success.

Warm Weather
Low Wind
Good surrounding players

I don't know shit about their coaches, though. Management has it together.

49ers get Jimmy Garoppolo for a 2nd.

Chiefs get a 1st + for Smith. Ya... seems legit.

Buffalo gives us their 1st and 3rd? Or ours?

Jimmy needed a new deal and had played what 4 games?

Plus I’m pretty sure the hood got fleeced or forced or something weird l.

I’m guessing it’ll end up being 2 2nds for alex but with Rappaport saying they could get more than they gave up, who knows

Jimmy is also only 26 years old with the idea being he'll be a franchise QB.

Smith is 34 with the idea being he'll keep your head above water for a couple years.

I'd love if we could get either a 1st this year or a 2nd and 3rd. Of course a high 2nd would be great too.

Yeah I dunno

Yeah the idea being that, he definitely looks the part.

But they’re gonna have to give him a big deal now.

The media has always been fascinated with Smith, but I have a feeling the league feels differently and sees him more along the lines of a system QB with limited ability.

Just listen to the players talk about him, no one is scared.

How far and beyond do you think the Chiefs offer of a 2nd + conditional 3rd was for the 49ers to agree to it a month before it could happen?

Theirs would be a spot or two better, so probably ours

I can see it

They were ****ed because Reid had tried to acquire him in Philly.

Baalke and Harbs had Dorsey and Reid over a barrel.

Possibly

But it seems if Rappaport is putting that out there he’s heard something about it!

I mean we here know what Smith is but he’s also a lot better than a lot of guys playing right now.

We shall see

Did anyone watch the buff jax game? Need any more proof QB is bad? And those were playoff teams

I just want it done. Don't leave us hanging.

I could see us getting our first back from Buffalo.

I don’t think Dorsey will give us one of the Browns number ones (maybe we could have gotten one before Dorsey got there because Cleveland is so dysfunctionally stupid, but not now).

Jacksonville might give us a two...maybe. I think Alex could take them to the Super Bowl with that defense so wouldn’t be my first choice.

Arizona might give up a one but they’re rebuilding and may just want to blow the whole thing up.

Sam Bradford, man.

I'm tellin' ya.

Sam Bradford.

Never doubt the idiots that run this league with their buddies. They're all the ****ing same. They would all suck a 1000 Chinese dicks for a guaranteed 10 win season. That's how they think. That's how they operate. That's what they've always done.

We think we're such a special franchise, but in reality it's the teams that don't do that shit and end up winning all the time. The small handful. The rest of the NFL is all a bunch of Alex Smith dick suckers.

We're going to get more than a 2nd rounder for Smith. I said it in the summer. I said it in the fall. And I'm saying it now.

Piss off. :cuss:

tell ya what, it's entirely possible alex could end up in pittsburg depending on what ben does after the season! :thumb: