Thanks. I'll experiment a bit on the hit. I have 24mg right now. I think I'll try some 16mg. Hopefully 0mg someday.

No wonder you spend so much money on pot. Inhale that shit and hold as long as possible.

Sorry about the lack of a charger. I had one left over from the e-cigs and got another when I bought the fluid locally. I didn't even think of it. Glad you were able to easily get one. There are a lot of variables that change how a vape feels when you take a hit. I start on the lowest voltage and fill my mouth with vapor, then inhale. I would also say try different fluids. A lot of the stores that sell stuff will let you try out flavors.

One thing to keep in mind is that this battery is only 25 bucks. It's a cheap way to start vaping. This thing isn't going to last forever, especially if you are clumsy and drop it a lot. I grabbed an iTaste VV 3.0 (http://www.myvaporstore.com/Innokin_...V3_0_s/132.htm) to use as a back up (because I'm a fiend) and I like it. It's my main one now. You can leave it plugged in to your PC and use it as it charges, which is convenient. I am liking the Innokin stuff. I think I am ready to take another step up and get one with removable rechargeable batteries.

I have my eye on the Innokin iTaste SVD. It kind of looks like a light saber:

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Innokin_..._SVD_s/121.htm

http://fasttechcdn.com/products/152/...1525701-18.jpg

Here's an SVD with the iClear 30 attached:

http://www.innokin.com/uploads/allim...0131110150.jpg

Here's what a SVD looks like with an iClear 30B attached:

[IMG]http://www.thaievape.com/attachments/f85/870d1371719333-innokin-itaste-svd-express-kit-**-out-stock-photo-4-.jpg[/IMG]


Well that link didn't work in the IMG tag, so here's a glamor shot of an SVD with a high end tank:

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/816/7...779816_086.jpg

The fascinating complexity of these things makes me want to take up smoking again...

It's actually pretty cool. Just messing with them gives you something to do with your hands, which is very good for ex smokers.

I got my first rebuildable atomizer today. It's a cheapie IGO-W, but it's pretty amazing to vape with.

I can change flavors with it every 10 hits or so, but it's not really travel friendly, so I'll keep using the tanks for work.

Hah, I am nowhere near ready to get that deep into it. I'm looking for convenience. As long as it keeps me off smoking I'm good.

Thinking about the Vamo V5, anyone?

Solid. If you don't care about waiting 2 weeks, or buying something from a Chinese Wholesale company, this is the best deal you'll get on it.

http://www.fasttech.com/product/1491...attage-mod-apv

This is the tank I use. Kanger MT3S. Simple, easy to clean, and doesn't use those long wicks which I find to be a royal pain in the ass.

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/647/5...550647_976.jpg

Yep those things are solid too. I have about 8 of them.

I like the look of it. I haven't really settled on a tank. I have been using the iClear 16 because I'm used to it. I'll be getting a couple of 30's in the mail shortly as part of a deal. I'd like to try a bottom coil tank, does it flood? I've heard that the Kangers flood unless you rebuild the coil.

I had the iClear30S but recently switched to the Kanger Aerotank I couldn't be happier

Oh shoot. I remember why I didn't get one even though the price is the same as the iClear from Innokin:

Tips:

• The metal tube in the center of this Clearomizer leads from the mouthpiece to the battery end. Avoid getting liquid in this tube when filling the Clearomizer.

• When unfastening the base (atomizer head) to refill the Clearomizer, the seals are temporarily broken and liquid will leak from the mouthpiece or escape into the center tube. Always wrap a cloth or piece of tissue around the mouthpiece when unfastening the base of the Clearomizer.

• Gurgling noise or leaks: This is a sign that liquid has found its way into the metal tube in the center of the Clearomizer (and usually occurs after a refill). Ridding the center tube of liquid will resolve the issue. To do so without emptying the tank, remove the Clearomizer from the battery, wrap a cloth or tissue around the battery end of the Clearomizer and blow through the mouthpiece.

• It is normal to find a small amount of liquid in the battery contact area when removing the Clearomizer or any atomizer. We recommend cleaning the battery before charging it.

• When possible, keep the tank full and never below 1/3 full of eLiquid ("topped off"). This helps maintain the "vacuum" in the tank and prevent leaks.

• Atomizer heads have an average lifespan between 10 to 20 days. When the atomizer head wears down, it may begin to leak. Replace the atomizer head with a new one if available.

It just sounded like a lot more hassle and I am already used to the hassles I am dealing with, lol. Is it actually smoother in use than that tip list suggests?

Nobody is getting flooding issues on their Kangers?

LOL

How many flavors do you rotate through? I have the one tank with the one flavor and that is it. A big draw to switching to vape was how much cheaper than cigs. For me... it would defeat the purpose to buy a bunch of flavors and tanks.

Thanks, but I want the full kit, found them for around $53.00 plus shipping.

what does that run and where do you get it?

That's a Kangertech T3S tank on an Innokin SVD power source.

and I want the full package, open the box, charge it up and ready to go.

You can get the tank for $5.99 from

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Kanger_T...er_p/krt3s.htm

You want exactly that?

You can get the whole thing here:

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Innokin_..._p/ink-svd.htm

Pick what kind of batteries and charger you want, then add the tank to your order that I linked. The one in the pic is a green one.

Looks like it is going to be about $130 if you have need everything.

I did but it was after 6 months of use on the old tank so I was ok with that.

That's not bad at all. I do like the looks of the Kangers and I want to try a bottom coil. I might grab one. My oldest kid has just switched from e-cigs to cheap vapes. He's liking it and he has a birthday coming up. I'm thinking of getting him a nice set up, I can grab a Kanger for myself at the same time to save on shipping.

If you want to go VAMO instead they have chrome and gunmetal available for $51.65 to start. You add the batteries, charger and a special tank if you want:

http://www.myvaporstore.com/VAMO_5_G..._p/vam5-gm.htm

I think you are looking at about $85 with a standard USPS shipping and handling.

Oh yeah, if you smoke pot, you can buy a thing that goes on the end for about $20 that replaces the tank. Lets you vape pot a few different ways.

Here's how to do the pot thing in California:

http://www.gentlemansvapes.com/blogs...onic-cigarette

Kanger had issues with the M3T... the MT3S is supposed to be version 2 with no leaks.

Thanks. I am going to check into that. Cleaning the wicks and dealing with the flow of liquid gets old. It's not horrible but I could do without it. And the Kanger tanks look cool. And they look like they'd give a smoother hit.

I just picked up an Aspire Nautilus today. Best clearomizer Ive tried so far.

Nice. I just watched a revue on it tonight and the guy highly recommended it. Can you pop back in from time to time in this thread and give a rundown as you use it more? I'd appreciate it. That one is on my maybe list.

I've been using the kanger evod for a few months and haven't had any issues with it. I love the thing. As long as you don't over tighten the battery to the tank you won't have any flooding issues. I picked up the full kit with 2 full evods for abut 50 bucks. I posted a link earlier in the thread to where I got my setup.

Edit: here's the link

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The evod looks nice. It's smaller and I think might fit better, but I'd have to grab an eGo/510 adapter for it. Still an alternative, thanks.

Will do. It has the best adjustable airflow system on the market. Right now Ive got it on my Smok ZMAX set at 8 watts and it produces the best combination of flavor/throat hit/vapor of any of my tanks. There are four airflow settings that let you fine tune it just to your taste/ hit.

I think I do get stronger flavor from the Hypertank but there are drawbacks to that tank build that are not present in the Nautilus such as gurgling, leaking, burnt hits from time to time etc. My Iclear 30s has nothing on the Nautilus as do none of the Vivi Novas or any of my lower level tanks.

So far its flawless and I just ordered a stainless steel replacement tank of ebay because I dont want to vape out of anything else now but I work outdoors and am a little worried about the pyrex glass breaking. I will keep you posted on how it works going forward.

http://vaporjoe.blogspot.com/2014/03...ape-tanks.html

Watch out, the batteries included in the starter kits are usually shit.

I have too many ****ing liquids man. I started reading e-cigarette-forum and saw all these juices that people were gushing about.

I think I have something like 50 - 60 different flavors right now.

Thanks, that really is a nice looking tank. I had seen a comment about "all that exposed glass" in a revue before and was wondering about going with more metal. I just got the two iClear 30's in today with the SVD. To be honest they are a bit goofy looking and I'm not fond of the swivel. I won't be able to get a good feel for it until I get a battery charged. I am pretty sure I'll be looking for another tank to use with it.

The 16's fit (stylistically) with my iTaste perfectly though and they work well enough. It's a nice little thing to carry around, fits in a shirt or jacket pocket. It's the closest to the overall feeling of being a smoker that I've found. It actually reminds me of the old cigarette holders from decades ago when I use it.

I was digging around and found a really big post on an e-cig board about batteries. I am (going to be) using a 2000mAh 16850 IMR Li-Mn in mine:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...batteries.html

I've haven't been fully following this thread.

Let me speak on a few things I've seen on this last page.

Aerotanks Pros:
-Holds a lot of juice
-Glass tank (Some Menthol/Cinnamon/Citrus flavors will melt plastic tanks)
-Adjustable Airflow

Cons:
-Requires cleanup every refill (about 30 seconds each time)
-Leaving it with juice in it in the heat will cause juice to leak out of the tank
-Taste isn't as great as regular Evod Tanks (My Opinion Only)

As far as batteries, buy them from here and let me know if you have any questions. I've been researching E-Cigs for months now and I know a lot.

http://rtdvapor.com/
I just bought 2 Sony VTC5's there for about $10.29 each and that's cheaper than anything on ebay and this guy is reputable and you won't be ripped off.

If you let me know what mod you have or which one you are thinking about, I can recommend to you what I think is the best battery for your mod (some heavy duty batteries will be overkill on some mods).

I have the Innokin SVD, and as of right now I have two Etest 2000mAh 16850 IMR Li-Mn.

Those are good batteries and a nice mod.

This is from a blog post on that e-cig forum, but these batteries are generally considered the best and safest (blog post is about 8 months old and there are some newer batteries not on this list). The last# column is Continuous Discharge Rate. That number is only important if you are building your own coils.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...protected.html

High Quality, Brand Name Batteries. Batteries are not created equal. Mod battery experts recommend the following brand name IMR and hybrid batteries:

AW IMR
18650 2000mah 10A
18650 1600mah 24A
18490 (1100mah) 16.5A
18350 ​(700mah) 6A

MNKE IMR
18650 1500mah ​20A

Panasonic ​or Orbtronic hybrid
CGR18650CH (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
NCR18650PF (LiNiCOMnO2) INR/ICR/IMR Hybrid 2900mAh 10A
NCR18650PD (LiNiCoAl) 2900mAh 10A
Orbtronic 18650 SX22 (hybrid) 2000mAh 22A
Orbtronic 18650 SX30 (hybrid) 2100mAh ​30A

Sanyo
UR18650EX 2000mAh 20A

Samsung hybrid (LiNiCoMnP)
INR18650-22P 2200mAh 10A
INR18650-20R 2000mah 22A

Sony hybrid
us18650v3 IMR 2250mAh 10A
us18650vct3 1600mAh 30A
us18650vtc4 2100 mAh 30A

EH IMR
18650 2000 mAh 16A
18650 1500 mAh 22A
18500 1100 mAh 8.8A
18350 800 mAh 6.4A

Efest IMR
18650 (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
18650 2000mAh 10A
18650 1600mAh 30A
18490 1100mah 8.8A
18350 800mah 6.4A

Do they make any of those things that hit like a half sucked down Marlboro red?

Here's my setup. The mod is a Zmax v5.

This is a RBA (rebuildable atomizer). It's called an IGO-W, which is the most basic RBA there is. You build a coil and screw it into the posts and then run some sterile cotton through the coil. The. You drip juice on it. Vapor production and flavor are boosted enormously doing this.

Cotton in coil soaked with juice
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/26/uqyzu6a9.jpg

Firing
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/26/u6y7yraq.jpg

With the cap and drip tip on
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/26/eqe4y5y5.jpg

Yes, you can play with it until it does. Stop smoking and start vaping. Seriously, do it. You won't regret making the switch.

Nice. I just got into this (opened the box on my SVD today) so I'm not going to try that yet, but I have been looking at videos on that IGO-W. Looks like fun stuff.

Thought about it recently. Someone gave me the name of a place on bell that is supposed to be good. Sure do love me a smoke though...

Just don't buy in in a retail store like I did. I paid $25 for it, not knowing much about them, but I bought the cheapest one to try out on (I had to have it right now, my fault). When I got home I saw you can get them for $15 on U.S. e-cig sites or $6 on www.fasttech.com

I like to support local business and US business, but I'm trying to spend as little money as possible right now.

I did pretty much the same thing at first. Went to a vape store in Sacramento when I was out of town and overpaid for a starter kit. It is so much cheaper to do this online it's not even funny.

I smoked for 30 years. I am not shitting you. Thirty years. Anywhere from a pack to two packs a day. Started with Marlboro reds and slowly worked over to Camels, then Camel wides. If I have a functioning vape I don't even want to smoke.

How do you adjust them? Or is that only certain kinds? Spent a little over $50 on one but it doesn't hit very hard at all. Everyone who has tried it said its the weakest one they've had. Like pulling a drag through a cocktail straw.

Did you get one with variable voltage/wattage? Also it depends on the fluid. As I understand the fluid is typically some combo of PG and VG. Then nic and flavor. PG (and nic) gives you throat hit. VG gives you lung hit. Cranking up the voltage (or wattage) increases vapor production so that increases the feel of the draw. Also different tanks will affect draw, some are designed for improved airflow that will make an easier draw.

Wow. That something to think about...

Before you start using adjustable Voltage/Wattage, I highly recommend you understand Ohm's Law so you don't blow a battery up in your face and die.

Just read this and follow the chart.

http://ecigarettereviewed.com/ohms-l...ned-for-vaping

Basically, whatever coil you are using, you should know it's resistance. Most coils are around 2 Ohms, which means 3.7 Volts is your sweet spot. Most coils have their resistance printed onto them like the one below the chart.

http://i.imgur.com/5PP57p8.png
http://i.imgur.com/eWoNHDP.jpg

Right there with ya brutha, though not 2 packs...probably closer to one. But it's still a bitch to quit that habit. Since I started the e-cig, I honestly do NOT want a cigarette. It's been since last June and I can honestly say, I'm free of cigarettes.

Oh **** that's it I'm going outside for a non explosive Marlboro...

And look at this...a half pitcher of margs from last night. Come here you two...

Ego-C Twist is a good one or eGo Vision Spinner

I think I am in danger of becoming an Innokin fan boy now, lol. I really like the style of their product and the utility/ease of use. If you are a serious smoker then I am going to suggest that you grab an iTaste VV 3.0 with an iClear 16 tank. You can get that for about $40 online. Get yourself some tobacco flavored fluid at 24mgs nicotine. Crank the voltage/wattage up and down until it feels right. Go ahead and swap out smoking a cig and hitting the vape. You'll probably end up buying another one for back up. Then you'll buy a more expensive mod because you won't be dumping as much cash on smokes.

Thanks man. If I do it I'll buy local so I have someone with whom to consult. Any word on long term ramifications of vaping?

You can taste it if you run too hot.

Hasn't been popular enough for long enough to have long term studies done. We are the guinea pigs. It's almost undoubtedly not worse than cigarettes though.

I like the local dealer because they know all this stuff, and you can try all their flavors. It's just a nicer personal touch.

There is no way...NO WAY that the long term ramifications of vaping are anywhere near as bad as they are with smoking. So there's that.

They've been around for a long time though, at least 10 years that I know of. And in all that time, it's hard to believe they can't "figure out" if they are dangerous. Personally, I think the foot dragging and hand wringing is done on the part of the tobacco companies. If Phillip Morris had any brains they'd jump on this bandwagon.

It's true. Even though it sucked seeing I spent too much, those guys in there are usually always really cool and they will let you test every single juice they have.

No long term studies because it hasn't been around long enough to do them. The vapor droplets can't physically go as deep into your lungs as smoke particles. So right off the bat it's not as invasive. The vapor isn't from combustion so you aren't breathing in actual smoke, that's another plus because you aren't dumping the crap from a small dirty campfire into yourself every time you take a hit. I can tell you that I felt the same effects as a person who quits cold turkey (other than the nicotine itself). My lungs are cleaning themselves out and I am breathing easier.

Yeah. I go online for parts and I go local for juice.

lol I've done the reverse

I still only get juice from http://www.bombvapor.com

I pick up a replacement atty if I need to for $4 at the local shop

For me, I still want a cigarette even if I puff on my e-cig nonstop all day.

Oh, before I forget, I got some Myztic banana flavor...holy shit. So good. Like I was snacking.

What are you using?

Gracias

Oh, I live in a dink little ag center. The nearest places for parts are in a college town and they charge twice what they should. Strangely enough I can get the fluid right on the main street of our (population 7k) town.

Just got home with the I-taste MVP, enjoying it so far, great vape, battery should last forever and I like the idea I can charge my phone with it. I got the gal I bought from to throw in some grape e-juice, kinda taste like feet, gonna need some different juice.

Sweet. I almost grabbed that one, it was really close. Can you pop in the thread later and let me know how the unit works?