Yeah, I'm officially done with it. Someone else said it and I completely agree that it is basically a twist on Buffy. I can get that fix from Buffy. Not to mention Buffy > Ichabod Crane in the hawtness catagory.

Yeah, that was bugging the shit out of me too. Give the man some normal clothes, his speech is enough to remind us he isn't from our time.

Everything is way too convenient and easy for the characters to figure out. The mystery/suspense element is pretty weak when every time something strange or mysterious happens they get the clue right away and comes to a conclusion ten minutes later.

If the pale rider can upgrade from battke axe to assault rifles, Ichabod should be able to get some modern threads.

It's a great premise but the producers have chosen a dopey supernatural, heavy handed approach. Had they gone with a lighter tone and more of a historical procedural, it may have had a chance. As it stands, I can't see this making it past October.

Also, every music cue felt like either Alcatraz or Fringe leftovers. Overall it's just blah.

The ratings dropped 11%. It'll be interesting to see the numbers next Monday.

Agreed completely. I could see it maybe going through October as Halloween approaches and people start wanting to watch more stuff along that theme. But I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't even make that. The story line and writing is that bad, IMO.

LMAO

I just subjected myself to the first seven minutes.

Good grief.

It it lasts until next week, it would be a miracle.

I'm not sure I've seen a worse first few weeks, ever. At least in a decade or more.

I don't even know if it ever came on here on SureWest. The were having some technical difficulties and at around 8:20 is still wasn't on so we just went to something else. The HD channel was just black and the regular channel just had the Fox logo in the middle of the screen and nothing else.

That being said I wasn't even that excited to watch it anyways given the direction it has gone. I thought this show really had potential which is why it is one of the rare shows I wanted to start off with from the beginning.

Barely dropped and still number one in their time slot with a 3.0. Don't think this show is going anywhere.

It's going off my record list.

I just caught the third episode. It was so silly that the Native American had all these things for the sleeping ritual just all ready to go.

And no, a 14 year old girl or whatever age they were, would not be sent to an insane asylum for saying she saw a demon/monster in the woods.

They can show the promo for this stupid show a thousand more times during football and I still won't wanna watch it. Give it up already Fox

ROFL

Uh yea. My wife and I were laughing about that too.

"I saw a monster in the woods."

"Ok, off to the nut house then. Enjoy!"

I thought she said that the sister was moved to a different foster home because of the monster story and ended up in the nut house only after she stole the survivalist gear because the end of the world was coming? :shrug:

I don't know if that is the case. I just went back and watched a little bit. When Crane talks to her about seeing the demon she said, "you get locked up for saying things like you saw a demon which is why I am in here and she is out there." Also, when they are doing their investigation, she is speaking to the psychologists on the video so at that point she was already getting mental help. I don't recall the survivalist stuff.

That's what I understood as well.

When they went to visit the sister, Crane asks if they lock up all of their criminals in asylums. Abbie tells him that the sister went there after she broke into a sporting goods store and stole $4000 work of survivalist gear because the end of the world was coming.

Regardless, it is poorly explained and the scene with the cops dragging the sister out of the interrogation room was over the top and unrealistic, or course.

I'm still watching for now anyway.

Guilty pleasure.

Interesting. It seems though one could take that she was locked up in the asylum this time as an adult because of that stealing event which would have been after her initial lockup when she was young because they did say she was in and out of them all the time. Unless we are supposed to think that the stealing was what prompted her initial lockup in the first place.

It was definitely poor explained, especially confusing was the forceful dragging her out of the interrogation room which kind of implies they are taking her to a sanitarium.

I imagine that if a girl disappeared for four days and then came back insisting she had seen demons while she was gone, she would at least have some psych counseling before returning to her foster family. Probably wouldn't happen to a kid not in the foster system.

Look at me trying to make sense of this show. LMAO It's TV's version of a popcorn flick. Turn your brain off and enjoy the cool monsters. :D

Yeah I agree. I think I have been a little hard on it because I was expecting something a little deeper with more substance going in. I will continue watching for now though.

I didn't really have any expectations, so it's hard to be disappointed. A lot of shows in this genre are silly and hokey at first (Supernatural comes to mind) and then get better. I doubt FOX gives it enough time to do that, though.

I'm getting that 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo vibe. Are they really planning on seven years of monster of the week?

Just watched the first of this off my dvr and the only things I like about it are the Ichabod Crane character and visually, the horseman itself, sans the apocalyptic story stuff. I agree with most everything said here. Great premise that is not getting its due. Why waste this literary character on modern apocalypse nonsense. There is real historical evidence of apocalyptic movement concurrent to the American Revolution. If you are going to go there, go all the way there.

Period pieces don't play well on TV anymore.

Woah. Already renewed for season 2. That's not very Fox-like.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...by-fox/206774/

I'm two episodes behind now, and based on what I'm reading I don't even know if I'll bother watching them.

It hasn't been that bad.

because its number 1 viewed show in its time slot, why would they kill a show when its leading in the ratings? The drop offs from the show have somewhat leveled out. Unless it goes really bad all of a sudden, it was a given on the renewal. 3.0 and 9million people viewing isnt bad at all

she would if the town was crooked which it is, and the people running the town know about all this supernatural stuff.

No doubt, it's just a very, very early renewal.

NBC did the same thing with Revolution last fall, and the bottom dropped out of that show's ratings during the 2nd half of the year. I could see something similar happening here, although I think Sleepy Hollow has been better than Revolution was.

Well if it means anything, I have liked it so far.

NBC shot themselves in the foot by putting the show on hiatus for FOUR ****ing months.

I wish networks would just do what fox eventually did with 24 and air the episodes non stop.

And I deleted it in my series manager.

:D

That requires a shit ton of money, a huge audience, cast members that don't mind working non-stop for months AND be immediately available for re-shoots.

It's just not very feasible.

I understand that. Its just a wish is all. I hate long hiatuses.

That's a valid argument, but I think Revolution in general was just a bad show. I know I quit watching long before the hiatus. I tried to sit through the finale in May, and thought it was just awful. I haven't watched any of this season, so I don't know what may or may not have changed.

I get it. These days, I find it far more enjoyable to watch an entire season or seasons on consecutive nights as opposed to once a week.

I watched 24, the first two seasons of Lost, season two of Homeland and Justified's first three seasons on consecutive nights and found them far more enjoyable than once a week for 13 or 24 weeks.

A lot of us do that. I know I currently have the full season for GoT (still) waiting on my DVR. Recently watched all of The Wire and Deadwood on HBOGo.

With me it started in the late 90s, when the combination of video codec technology and greater bandwidth led to the ability to start downloading (not legally, then...) larger format stuff. I think the introduction of DVD was big as well, giving you the ability to have a full season or even series on a small, easy-to-store medium (and many of these were ripped onto the internet - you didn't have to be able to convert VHS to a digital format...). Now with DVR and streaming and Blu-ray there's really no reason to limit yourself to a network schedule. And I think a big part of it is also the change we've seen in the same time frame to a more serial kind of storytelling on television. There are less self-contained shows (or dramas at least) and more shows where you're invested week-to-week in a season-long ongoing arc. Which I think plays better in a single-sitting or viewing over a few days, rather than stretching it over 8 or 9 months.

Call me impatient. :)

Hell, even with the stuff I watch regularly, a lot of the time I'll wait and watch a month's worth of episodes at once, rather than watching every week. Doing it with The Bridge today, in fact.

I would like to do that but I hate being a year behind on my shows.

A lot of shows are doing that split season format now. Walking Dead is one of them. If the show is good, the audience will come back. Revolution lost its audience because it sucks.

Good shows can lose audience that way, too. Not a network show, but that was one of the reasons Battlestar Galactica's ratings struggled from season to season. I think USA has it figured out, they're giving all their (established) shows longer seasons and breaking them up so they aren't off the air longer than a few months.

Lost in this is that Sleepy Hollow didn't get an order for a back 9, they're sticking with 13 eps, and the 2nd season order is also 13. So cable-length, like Hannibal. Interesting.

Add to this the straight-to-series order for Gotham, and the announcement that David Tennant will be starring on Fox in a US version of Broadchurch (also a short season), and Fox is getting a jump on putting next season together already.

I would be OK with 13 ep seasons if they will air them 13 weeks in a row.

I like it too. I was actually surprised so many on here have given it such negative reviews.

I thought tonight's episode was a little better. It had a bit of the National Treasure feel and more detective work involved.

Yeah, it did have more of a NT feel to it but the CGI.... ugh. LMAO

You're too pampered. Story is much more important than visual bells and whistles.

Oh I agree, but that ending CGI was just LMAO

You're talking to a guy who's been watching Dr. Who for 30 years.

I finally got around to watching the most recent episode last night. It was significantly better than the previous two episodes. I liked the National Treasure feel and integrating the past from Crane's time into the present.

I realized I hadn't deleted this program from the DVR and watched an episode from 2 weeks ago.

Good grief, how did this awful program get a full season order?

The three week break for the show might be a major mistake. It wouldn't surprise me if they lose a lot of viewers.

Fox logic: put a show about witches and apocalyptic evil on haitus around Halloween.

No kidding.

My wife likes this show, and I find myself staring at the ceiling, petting the dog, or picking up the iPad while we 'watch'. It really disappoints me that she digs it.

I think she just likes Ichabod Crane...

They have to cover the WS. Its the same reason why the Halloween Episode of the Simpsons gets shown so early.

That's true.

Still watching, but I'm a couple of weeks behind.

Does he ever change his clothes? I mean, that one outfit he's wearing must be a little gamy after 230 years.

In the preview for when the show comes back, Abbie says something about him needing new clothes.

It bugged me at first that he was still wearing the old clothes but then it occurred to me that he had absolutely no money. The police department is housing and feeding him but I don't know if they are planning on paying him.

Who's still watching this? I finally got caught up.

I enjoyed the casting of Craig Parker (Glaber from Spartacus) as an evil Banastre Tarleton. He makes a great sneering villain.

Still silly, but I'm still watching.

I'm still watching though I agree with others who said it was a bad idea to take that break. If you miss a couple weeks you start to find other things to watch. Hopefully there are no more of them.

I ma still watching.

As am I. I'm eating it up, too. It may not be the BEST show on television, but it's the one I'm enjoying the most.

Evil Tarleton was brilliant.

yeah still watching. not a great show....hope it gets better.
something keeps me hanging around....

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Fox's Sleepy Hollow renewed for a second season

I really like this show.

The episode before last, when they were talking about Paul Revere, I paused the show and explained to my wife how there were two riders that night, the second guy road much further than Revere, and also that he never yelled out "the British are coming!" since they were, at the time, all British. I was pleasantly surprised to see that Crane relayed the incident correctly.

This show reminds me a bit of the BOOK Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, which also weaved fantasy around historical events. Too bad the movie was such a steaming pile of shit.

I think I'm about 6 weeks behind now. I may never catch up.

Hubba hubba

I could really get into it if it weren't for the silly supernatural stuff.

That said, you've made a great point: I would LOVE to see a network series that dealt with daily life of citizens in Philly, Boston or New York starting in 1773.

A show like that would have enormous potential, IMO, especially if it was historically accurate.

That would be a show smart people are interested in, and as you are aware, we can't even get those on History Channel anymore.

I think that would put me to sleep.

Although I do watch other period stuff like Copper (now canceled) and Hell on Wheels.

I think the best we can hope for is the occasional miniseries like John Adams.

If Rome, Deadwood, Boardwalk Empire, The Tudors, and The Borgias can all be hits, a Revolution-era drama with similarly good writing and production can make it at least as long, especially since it would be much cheaper to produce than most of those.

The main problems are that most people equate the Revolution with wholesomeness, which they equate to it being boring. Also, there weren't many prominent women at the time. But, you can always weave a story around the facts which makes up for those, much like each of those shows did.

And if you really want one out there, you can always write it.

Show is kinda cool. And yes Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter the book was awesome. Movie I liked but thought it'd be better

If you mixed the British with the Founding Fathers and the secrecy of the Masons along with intrigue, top secret missions and plans, etc. it could be very cool.

But alas, Frazod is right: There would be a very limited demographic because it would be a show about smart people that would likely only appeal to smart people, who seems to be a diminishing species.

From my POV, it would have to be a show in which someone was thrown back in time to witness historic events or it would need to be a split series with someone in the present looking for clues about something in the early 1770's.

Sounds perfect. Too bad it will never happen.

It's not "the voice" enough to make it on the airwaves.