If you don't have a meltdown while playing QB, you're either A) perfect and have a perfectly operated team or B) unlike nearly ever human to play the position. Everyone has a meltdown/blowup with coaches/teammates. It's ****ing natural.


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Meltdowns are a part of being human. Not everyone is a machine and can completely hide their emotions for every instant of an emotionally charged scenario (a football game). The issue with meltdowns is the frequency, message behind the meltdown, and how your teammates respond. If they respect you, then in all likelihood, they'll say "Gee, he's pissed. That doesn't happen a whole lot, I suppose we should fix our problems". If not, then it will be dismissed and you'll be referred to and viewed as a whiny bitch.

And the moronic worship of a nothing special QB continues LMAO

lol

I just read where Geno just fired his draft agent LMAO

Alex Smith will still be starting in this league when Geno is washed up. Bank on it.

Well Alex Smith plays for the Chiefs, so obviously Geno.

This applies to Alex Smith.

This.
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I lost respect for both Elway and Eli for refusing to play for the teams planning to draft them. Both first class cry babies. I'm glad Peyton and Luck weren't such cry babies.

A lot of elite QB prospects got stuck on bad teams. How else to they become good?

I hate Elway and Eli for exactly that reason. Once you are a badass free agent, you can play mercenary all you want. In fact, you owe it to your family to seek out the top dollar, if that is your family's priority.

But cry babies who refuse to be drafted by crap teams trying to improve, are the worst kind of dirt to me. They are scum.

Im sure Elway and Eli care deeply about this.
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Manning and Brady EARNED the right to be vocal leaders.

I meant this kind of meltdown...
(I'm on my IPad and YouTube won't let me imbed)
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=oLD5WMCpYEs

Geno Smith once slapped a tarp when his team was losing.

He's for sure going to have a Ryan Leaf meltdown similar to that. He's going to act and behave the same way as a dumbass sociopath.

Yuuuuuuuuup. I can see it now...

We'll do this together.

Look at me bro...

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/i...032128d8/l.jpg

Repeat after me: IT IS OK.

IT IS OK.

Now have some waffles and bacon...

and this fanbase is full of people who would rather not take a chance on drafting a QB near the top of the draft, and instead persist on signing another teams backup QB who wasn't good enough.
If the chiefs were to draft a QB, he would have to be white, have gone to an SEC school, gone undefeated, won the heisman and a national championship to be worthy of a first round pick. But until then; lineman, BBQ, and Bud Light is ok.

It's interesting that the vaGeno mafia has transitioned from saying their guy was worth that 1.1 pick to bashing Alex Smith.

Can't really claim he was worth the 1.1 now that every GM in the league disagrees, some of them several times. Can't claim this is someone with the maturity to lead a franchise day 1. The first round scarcely had ended before the cracks in the marketing were showing.

Alex Smith will likely be in KC for a run like Trent Green's, where he posts some big numbers and wins a lot of games. Maybe for longer than Green, he is 3 years younger than Green was at the time, and has more of a football pedigree such as 1.1 talent, playoff wins on his résumé, etc.

It's possible if not likely that Alex Smith already has more playoff wins than vaGeno ever will.

How about we just give this charade up? You were fooled by groupthink. It's not that big of a deal.

Now that the truth is coming out about this overrated hack, its clear that Kansas City dodged a bullet and WAY too many on here were gulping down the Kool-Aid.

From PFT and Yahoo:








Nothing worse than a talented guy who thinks he knows it all, won't listen and doesn't take any personal responsibility for himself. Geno's going to be an epic ****ing bust.

Again, that doesn't jive with everything we know about Geno being extremely coachable and a hard worker who busted his ass at WVU.

I was hating on the mother****er from day one! Still am.
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Alex Smith has never shown an ability to post big numbers. Ever. At all. Not even close. His numbers have been consistently below average.

You ****ing homers are going to choke on his big checkdown dick this year.

Thats all nice and good except for it wrong. Geno wanted to play in the senior bowl, his agents didnt want him to, that hurt his draft stock, then when he was criticized for not playing in the senior bowl, his agents did nothing to combat the negative publicity, then they told him he'd be #1 pick and to go to NYC because he was a lock for Day 1

deadspin(dot)com/why-did-geno-smith-really-fire-his-agents-486231452?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Uhh huh.....uh huh.....
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Know that....from who exactly? Because people at WVU said so? His issues would help explain West Virginia's late season collapse. This isn't one source claiming this, all offseason various scouts and NFL execs have been saying this guy is a flake and can't handle criticism, his actions are only further proving that. I see JaMarcus Russell like tendencies in him having a big head and thinking he's got it all over everyone. It all sounds like he's got issues with people around him blowing rainbows up his ass. Combine those two factors and it sounds like a recipe for disaster.


Usually when a guy plummets down the draft board, you'll get the breakdown of why it happened after the draft and it seems like Geno's problems were self-inflicted. All of the these reports seem to be alluding to one major issue:

A guy that thinks he's above it all, who has bought into his own hype, who felt entitled to be a top draft pick just because all his buddies were telling him just how awesome he was. His agents released a statement, basically saying that they had let him know that he could be a 1st or 2nd rounder, him deflecting all the blame on them just shows his overall lack of immaturity.

JaMarcus Russell was never a hard worker. That's why he was fat. GTFO racist.

He worked hard enough to be a top 1st round pick.....and then the bottom fell out on him as he got exposed for having the same sorts of issues as Ryan Leaf. Geno Smith is the next to join the epic bust club, the only difference is that it won't cost the Jets a top 1st round pick. Smith's another dude living in la-la land, thinking the problem is with everyone else, not with him, he's sure he's going to be a future All Pro because his boys are all telling him how sick his game is and how awesome he's going to be. The sad thing is, when he washes out of the NFL and the money train dries up, his "boys" will be nowhere to be found.


Ask Vince Young, a far more talented prospect, how much of his former posse is coming around nowadays.

Pretty sure JMA didn't work at SH** ..... And he can all the have ALL theathletic talent in world ... but in between those ears of his .... AIR

and I did see his comeback special on ESPN.... ZERO chance

Geno gives no ****s about Mark Sanchez.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jet...est-well-see-0

Geno Smith continues to play coy about his attendance at Mark Sanchez’s annual offseason workouts in California known as “Jets West.” Smith was asked on NFL Network Monday if his summer break would include a trip to the Golden State, to which the quarterback responded, “We’ll see.”

During minicamp, Smith gave a “no comment” on the subject of Sanchez’s camp. Smith later clarified, saying he didn’t know what Jets West was at the time the question was asked -- a rough indication of the communication and relationship between the Jets’ top two quarterbacks. Smith did say at the time that though he hadn’t been officially invited by Sanchez, if he were, he would attend.

Smith said Monday his goal is to become the Jets starting quarterback and that the transition to the West Coast offense is going well.

“I’ve already made a giant leap, coming from a spread system where the biggest transition for me is going to be the footwork,” said Smith. “It’s not as if I can’t do it; it’s the fact that I haven’t done it enough. So the good reps, the good amount of reps that I’ve gotten in rookie camp, minicamp, OTAs, it’s helped me make that leap and transition.”

Leader.

Winner.

Champion.

ROFL

Pretty much knew this. And yes, mother****ers, it's ON.

It sounds like Sanchez is the one being a dick. He hasn't even invited Geno?

sdon't see geno getting any starts in the next 2 years

I maybe wrong, but I see them clinging to the dirty sanchez for at least 2 more years

:facepalm:

Are any of the OTHER players psyched about going to "Sanchez Camp"? I highly doubt it.

Geno will forge his own path. Douche QB is the Rule of the Day in this league now, in case you haven't noticed. Thank God we have a douche-flyer in young Tyler Bray. At least SOMETHING halfway right is occurring at OAD.:p

Again; why would anyone with even a modicum of talent want to attend that camp?

Good Lord

:facepalm:

Do you even understand that "camp"?

Do you realize that other NFL players are playing for their contacts, too?

Do you understand anything about the NFL?

"Hey guys, come to my camp! Mamasita is making fresh tortas, and we can all bathe in my suck"! "Who's in"?

I see things from a broader and less-confined perspective than you, McCloud.

No. He's probably the biggest dumbass this place has ever seen.

:facepalm:

Then please explain these "camps".

Thanks in advance.

He's not the biggest dumbass ever but he's the biggest dumbass that continues
to post and post often.

Without Clay, he'd be on someone else's sack.

Lucky for him.

In Sanchez case, they probably involve tents around big pickup trucks blasting caballero music late in to the night. I imagine the the phrase "mas cerveza" gets tossed around quite a bit.

That is disappointing because if he REALLY wants the starting job, he should take every opportunity to leap frog the current starter. If he isnt invited, he should just show up and show everyone why he deserves to start over Sanchez.

That's too bad.

Have you not figured out yet that I simply can not take the Chiefs or this message board seriously in ANY way, anymore? I mean ****; really?

Yep

So if Geno Smith cannot be out Mark Sanchize then he would not have been able to beat out Cassel either.... :doh!:

Sanchez was the better QB than Cassel. It is what it is.

ALEX
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If your given the choice between Cassel and Sanchez, you take Cassel?

I was pushing for Geno at #1. There are just way too many stories that sound like Geno's in serious need of an attitude adjustment. Alex Smith isn't a QB that gets me psyched but right now, I really don't care that we passed on Geno.

God man it is hard to choose between the butt fumble and the I can't even put a hat on my head. Can I just run the wildcat or take a kick in the balls. Either would be better than those 2 at QB.

Sanchez every time.

At least you get a high second rounder.

Exactly. No question. So how does he decide that if Geno doesn't beat out Sanchez, he couldn't possibly beat out Cassel.

Cassel was historically bad last year.

Sanchez is infinitely better than Cassel

Nope.

This is simply the point of better than Cassel does not equal good. Sanchez is not a good QB. Not even close.

And you have been busting my chops about QB evaluation. Good grief.

In which way?

Sanchez averages 1.1 TDs, 195 yards, and 1.1 INTs per start.

Cassel averages 1.3 TDs, 217.7 yards, and 0.9 INTs per start.

Cassel is basically better than him in every single way.

I don't recall Sanchez ever shitting himself in the playoffs. I do however recall Cassel doing exactly that.

Just an update for Jets West, since I haven't seen it yet.

What a horrible human being.

In the mere fact that he isn't Cassel.

Cassel wouldn't last a series in New York City, let alone, four years.

Cassel wouldn't have led the 2009 NY Jets to the AFC Championship and led at the half.

Cassel wouldn't have led the 2010 NY Jets to the AFC Championship.

Cassel can barely get out of bed without fumbling his OWN balls, let alone those of his center's.

Sanchez is the worst starting QB in the league but he's infinitely better than Cassel.

LMAO That makes sense.

I just feel for those poor bastards in Minnesota that live on that glimmer of hope that Cassel is better than Ponder.

He LED them to what exactly?

His best TD to INT ratio was 17-13 in those two years. His first year he had 8 more INTs than TDs. He didn't lead them to shit.

This. The grass is not always greener. Sometimes it is filled with fresh dog turds.

And he didn't exactly **** them either.

He was the QB, so by the nature of the beast, he led his team to those championship games. Weak sauce but truth.

Can you imagine Cassel doing that?

Interesting as Alex Smith is not given this same thought process around here.

I know YOU are not a Smith hater just find it interesting how these arguments change depending on who was involved.

Imagine Cassel being bad enough to get carried by a #1 defense and a top 5 running attack? Yes I can.

I would say minutely better depending on the OC. Put Cassel with Weiss or McDaniels it gets a little harder. They both suck IMO. So trying to choose between suck 1 and suck 1a...It has to depend on the supporting cast.
The only thing I will say for Sanchez is who again has been his OC? Brian Schottenheimer and Sparano....ouch.

Did you manage to watch the JETS the last few years? Sanchez has literally on his own ****ed them several times. 2011 he cost them the playoffs himself.

That dude has been bailed out by his defense more than anyone this side of Joe Flacco (prior to 2012 for Flacco).

I was referring to his first two years in the league, before he and Cassel became poster children for the 'SHIT MY PANTS(!)'-movement of NFL QB suckage.

Alex is coming into an offensive head coaching situation. Geno the opposite. I say Alex

You know who had a worse QBR, lower completion percentage and more turnovers than Matt Cassel last season......wait for it......wait for it..... The only one worse last season was MARK SANCHEZ.

Well, I can't.

I can see the 2009 Mark Sanchez leading the 2009 Chiefs to a 4-12 record. I can't see the 2009 Matt Cassel leading the New York Jets to the 2009 AFC Championship Game.

I can see the 2010 Mark Sanchez leading the 2010 Chiefs to a 10-6 record and a playoff loss. I can't see the 2010 Cassel leading the New York Jets to a second straight AFC Championship Game.

Way to be a part of the conversation

:doh!:

He didn't LEAD those teams he was along for the ride.

The conversation was Cassel vs Sanchez.

Prove it

Get used to that dynamic!(again)