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Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 06:58 PM

There is no defense for this. None. Stop stroking that Walrus Cock.

1.1, pissed away = indefensible.

O.city 04-17-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9597137)
When did Alex Smith come in here demanding big money?

I didn't like the compensation we gave up to get him, but that's the going rate these days for a QB, especially when the worst QB class in years is happening.

Fine. We can take a LT.

But he better absolutely be one of the best LT's in the NFL. Soon. Like this year soon.

Bewbies 04-17-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597148)
He also hasn't been the reason they are shit. The fact that the Browns are shit isn't on Joe Thomas.

We are shit, and our LT is going to make us not shit!!

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-17-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9597142)
:spock: Since when?

Cassel, Kolb, schaub

Messier 04-17-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9597140)
In reality it doesn't matter if he is. Joe Thomas has added tons of wins to the Browns...

Meanwhile, Sam Bradford is winning super bowls for the Rams.

O.city 04-17-2013 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9597155)
Cassel, Kolb, schaub

Really wanna go with those names?

penbrook 04-17-2013 06:59 PM

If this is true Dorsey is so ****ing stupid.

BossChief 04-17-2013 07:00 PM

The Dolphins wouldn't pay Long, but will turn around and pay Albert after trading a second rounder for him?

Something doesn't add up here.

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9597138)
Is it possible they have been adamant about trying to get a second back with the intent of drafting a quarterback with the pick or moving up from the pick to take one?

Even better idea.

:facepalm:

Last I checked, holding the first overall pick means you can pick anyone you want.

Instead, let's try to acquire a R2 pick, and then use that pick on the 5th-8th best QB in the draft.

Jesus Christ, if that's the plan....

ILChief 04-17-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9597149)
Sure, but if you're taking the LT with your highest pick, and QB with something else, you're not doing it right.

So if they don't like geno but like someone like Wilson, they should take Wilson at 1 just cuz that's how you do it?

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9597161)
The Dolphins wouldn't pay Long, but will turn around and pay Albert after trading a second rounder for him?

Something doesn't add up here.

They are as poorly run as we are?

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-17-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597159)
Really wanna go with those names?

It's the going rate bud. I don't care about the names.

notorious 04-17-2013 07:00 PM

Pioli has drained my "Give a ****" tank.


At this point I am just going to shrug my shoulders and say,"They better win".

penbrook 04-17-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9597157)
Meanwhile, Sam Bradford is winning super bowls for the Rams.

No but hes giving them a chance to win in every single game. Dont worry guys we got our own #1 overall qb in Alex Smith.

O.city 04-17-2013 07:01 PM

Obviously they think one of the LT's, whichever one they pick, is better than Albert. So, if they are thinking that, I'm going to think that and hold him to that.

-King- 04-17-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9597155)
Cassel, Kolb, schaub

ROFL

penbrook 04-17-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9597161)
The Dolphins wouldn't pay Long, but will turn around and pay Albert after trading a second rounder for him?

Something doesn't add up here.

True.

O.city 04-17-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9597165)
It's the going rate bud. I don't care about the names.

So that makes it a good deal? Ok.

RunKC 04-17-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9597142)
:spock: Since when?

See Matt Schaub and Matt Cassel.

Edit: Kevin Kolb too.

penbrook 04-17-2013 07:02 PM

I pray that its Fisher.

DTLB58 04-17-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9597106)
He didn't help his cause, but I don't think this team based their decision on Albert's social media interactions.

Correct. Plus, after he made that comment about not playing RT his social media stopped immediately. So he showed he listened when he was told to knock it off, I'm assuming by his agent.

I think after Reid and Dorsey went thru the tapes and evaluated the team/contracts and especially after they pulled the trigger on the Smith trade this was in their plans with Albert for awhile, if not plan B.

Even though, you did say the other day if, Albert would take what Long did he would be a Chief.

Mother****erJones 04-17-2013 07:02 PM

This is a tough pill to swallow. But if they dont feel comfortable giving him a large contract with his age and back issue, then so be it. I'm going to support this new regime til they prove me wrong. We'll see.

Bewbies 04-17-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9597163)
So if they don't like geno but like someone like Wilson, they should take Wilson at 1 just cuz that's how you do it?

If you like Wilson as the best you shouldn't be coaching in the NFL.

When you don't hold the #1 pick you look for who you like best that might be available. With the top pick you take the best one.

ILChief 04-17-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9597167)
No but hes giving them a chance to win in every single game. Dont worry guys we got our own #1 overall qb in Alex Smith.

Alex Smith is every bit as good as and possibly better than Bradford

Messier 04-17-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9597167)
No but hes giving them a chance to win in every single game. Dont worry guys we got our own #1 overall qb in Alex Smith.

He's not helping them with crap. He average to below average.

RunKC 04-17-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9597167)
No but hes giving them a chance to win in every single game. Dont worry guys we got our own #1 overall qb in Alex Smith.

Sam Bradford has been getting anally raped in his career.

Why?

Um he doesn't have a LT to protect his sorry ass. Herp derp.

dirk digler 04-17-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9597164)
They are as poorly run as we are?

This franchise is ****ing joke.

Bewbies 04-17-2013 07:04 PM

It's not like Albert couldn't play this year and sign long term next year like Bowe did. Or play this year and trade him next year, while giving Stephenson a year more to learn.

penbrook 04-17-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9597179)
If you like Wilson as the best you shouldn't be coaching in the NFL.

When you don't hold the #1 pick you look for who you like best that might be available. With the top pick you take the best one.

And Luck was the clear cut #1 player and he showed that this year.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-17-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597172)
So that makes it a good deal? Ok.

What makes you think it's a bad deal? No one knows how it will play out.

007 04-17-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9597078)
You mean expecting a different result?

:)

No, I mean actually having a result. Complaining does not produce a result. therefore the insanity definition does not apply to them. LMAO

caligula 04-17-2013 07:05 PM

these two trades are the plot to a movie called "Clown School, the 4th Decade"

penbrook 04-17-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9597186)
It's not like Albert couldn't play this year and sign long term next year like Bowe did. Or play this year and trade him next year, while giving Stephenson a year more to learn.

Reid has been known to take care of his players. Albert just play this year and you will get paid.

BossChief 04-17-2013 07:06 PM

Why not add a pick in with Albert and try to go for their first?

TEX 04-17-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9597182)
He's not helping them with crap. He average to below average.

His arm sure isn't. If he ever had protection he might do something.

ChiefAshhole20 04-17-2013 07:07 PM

Joeckel, Asomoah, Hudson, Allen, Stephenson. Which one of these is going to be the "veteran presence" this young line will need if we get into some shit late in a game or down the stretch of a long grueling season to keep the focus going? Ryan Lilja??

BigMeatballDave 04-17-2013 07:07 PM

Imagine how boring and uneventful this place would be if the Chiefs did everything we want them to do and won SBs?

What would we bitch about?

ILChief 04-17-2013 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9597179)
If you like Wilson as the best you shouldn't be coaching in the NFL.

When you don't hold the #1 pick you look for who you like best that might be available. With the top pick you take the best one.

I guess chad Pennington should have went number one then?

O.city 04-17-2013 07:08 PM

They don't want to pay him what he wants, they can recoup a pick they spent on their "franchise" QB, get a cheaper option at LT that they obviously believe is a better option.

Therefor, do it.

But it should be met with the expectation that a LT taken with the first overall pick in the entire draft is held to the same as any other positional player. He needs to be expected to be a top 5 player at his position year 1, with the ability to get better.

penbrook 04-17-2013 07:08 PM

Lol if we dont draft a Tackle #1 this will go down as the NFLs biggest smokescreen in history.

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 07:08 PM

Explain why this is good.

Someone. Anyone.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-17-2013 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9597195)
Why not add a pick in with Albert and try to go for their first?

This season Albert will be 29 not gonna get a first for him.

Sorter 04-17-2013 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9597183)
Sam Bradford has been getting anally raped in his career.

Why?

Um he doesn't have a LT to protect his sorry ass. Herp derp.

Saffold is just garbage, right?

penbrook 04-17-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20 (Post 9597198)
Joeckel, Asomoah, Hudson, Allen, Stephenson. Which one of these is going to be the "veteran presence" this young line will need if we get into some shit late in a game or down the stretch of a long grueling season to keep the focus going? Ryan Lilja??

Asamoah

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20 (Post 9597198)
Joeckel, Asomoah, Hudson, Allen, Stephenson. Which one of these is going to be the "veteran presence" this young line will need if we get into some shit late in a game or down the stretch of a long grueling season to keep the focus going? Ryan Lilja??

This is going to be a shitty line next year.

ChiefAshhole20 04-17-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9597209)
Asamoah

Sweet.

O.city 04-17-2013 07:10 PM

Will be funny if they trade him to Miami and he signs a deal in Miami worth about 7 per year. Maybe Albert just doesn't want to be here.

Bewbies 04-17-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9597200)
I guess chad Pennington should have went number one then?

Did the Jets have the #1 overall pick?

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9597161)
The Dolphins wouldn't pay Long, but will turn around and pay Albert after trading a second rounder for him?

Something doesn't add up here.

Jake Long is a brokedick, and Branden Albert is a pretty good, athletic LT that is still improving.

The Dolphins are pretty smart. Tannehill is gonna make a quantum leap this year.

RunKC 04-17-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9597195)
Why not add a pick in with Albert and try to go for their first?

Because we don't have the ammo and Albert isn't worth that much to warrant the 12th pick.

We don't have any leverage in that situation at all.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-17-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597212)
Will be funny if they trade him to Miami and he signs a deal in Miami worth about 7 per year. Maybe Albert just doesn't want to be here.

LaCanfora article "Teams have been made aware by the Chiefs what Albert is looking for in compensation"

O.city 04-17-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9597217)
LaCanfora article "Teams have been made aware by the Chiefs what Albert is looking for in compensation"

Ok?

ILChief 04-17-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9597213)
Did the Jets have the #1 overall pick?

No but someone did and they (and many other teams as well) passed on him

Just Passin' By 04-17-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597201)
They don't want to pay him what he wants, they can recoup a pick they spent on their "franchise" QB, get a cheaper option at LT that they obviously believe is a better option.

Therefor, do it.

But it should be met with the expectation that a LT taken with the first overall pick in the entire draft is held to the same as any other positional player. He needs to be expected to be a top 5 player at his position year 1, with the ability to get better.

You have an greatly inflated take on top 5 picks and their first year success.

O.city 04-17-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9597223)
You have an greatly inflated take on top 5 picks and their first year success.

So you shouldn't expect the first overall pick in teh entire draft, to be a cornerstone player of your franchise and a top player at his position?

KevB 04-17-2013 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9597214)
The Dolphins are pretty smart.

We talking about the same Jeff Ireland?

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2013 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597212)
Will be funny if they trade him to Miami and he signs a deal in Miami worth about 7 per year. Maybe Albert just doesn't want to be here.

Can't really blame him.

He's been part of an organization that has won 25 games in his 5 years here, and he's protected a "Who's Who" of shitty QB's. And they just traded for another one.

RealSNR 04-17-2013 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9597210)
This is going to be a shitty line next year.

Yet true fans defend the OT at #1 idea by saying, "You build a team from the trenches out."

We're giving up the 1.1 for a move that could possibly be a downgrade.

On the offensive. ****ing. line. Who gives a shit?

I'm ready to ****ing bolt this goddamn team after draft day.

RunKC 04-17-2013 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9597208)
Saffold is just garbage, right?

He's not that good.

But I'm sure he'll be fine blocking Justin Smith, Calais Campbell and Bruce Irvin 6 times a year.

ROFL

Just Passin' By 04-17-2013 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597226)
So you shouldn't expect the first overall pick in teh entire draft, to be a cornerstone player of your franchise and a top player at his position?

You shouldn't expect him to be a top 5 player in his first season, which is what you were calling for.

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 07:15 PM

The people defending this are the same idiots deep-throating Pioli for dumping Orton and sticking with Matt Casshole.

RealSNR 04-17-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9597223)
You have an greatly inflated take on top 5 picks and their first year success.

It's what has to happen in order for this deal to be considered even a mild success.

It's just like the Tyson Jackson pick. The move isn't going to cause many problems if it doesn't work out, but it's also extremely unlikely that it will actually benefit this team.

O.city 04-17-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9597235)
You shouldn't expect him to be a top 5 player in his first season, which is what you were calling for.

Agree to disagree I guess.

DaneMcCloud 04-17-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9597166)
***** has drained my "Give a ****" tank.


At this point I am just going to shrug my shoulders and say,"They better win".

This is where I'm at, exactly.

Quite frankly, I don't give a flying **** about Brendan Albert. The ****er has had five years to separate himself and all he's proven is that he's an 11-15 NFL left tackle that wants to be paid like he's Top Three. He's not.

He'll be 29 years old mid-season and as TBG said, he's has had many body transformations. **** him.

While I'm not thrilled with a left tackle first overall, he'll be a minimum of seven years younger and at least $4 million less per year. I'll be shocked if he's not as effective on the field. And if he's not, Dorsey and Reid won't hear the end of it.

Welcome to the NFL, 2013 style. Youth and small contracts win.

O.city 04-17-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9597233)
He's not that good.

But I'm sure he'll be fine blocking Justin Smith, Calais Campbell and Bruce Irvin 6 times a year.

ROFL

Uh, I don't think he will be blocking those guys, save Irvin. I'd be more worried about Aldon Smith.

Reaper16 04-17-2013 07:17 PM

Alex Smith trade says Win Now
Branden Albert trade says Win in the Future

Together, they really say Win Never

penbrook 04-17-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9597232)
Yet true fans defend the OT at #1 idea by saying, "You build a team from the trenches out."

We're giving up the 1.1 for a move that could possibly be a downgrade.

On the offensive. ****ing. line. Who gives a shit?

I'm ready to ****ing bolt this goddamn team after draft day.

Jason La Canfora just basically said Joker is going to KC.

Nightfyre 04-17-2013 07:17 PM

Who went in the CP mock +/- 10 picks:

42 Buffalo - BossChief - Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
43 Miami - DaKCManAP - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
44 Tampa Bay - crazycoffey - Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
45 Carolina - Direckshun - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
46 New Orleans (FORFEIT BOUNTYGATE)
47 San Diego - DJ's left nut - Jonathan Jenkins, NT, Georgia
48 St. Louis - Rams Fan - Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers
49 Dallas - ChiefsCountry - Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
50 Pittsburgh - Mr. Flopnuts - Robert Woods, WR, USC
51 New York Giants - Sorter - Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
52 Chicago - crazycoffey - Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
53 Washington - Rams Fan - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn
54 Minnesota - Sfeihc - Jonathon Cyprien, SS, Florida Int..
55 Cincinnati - DaKCManAP - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
56 Miami - (from Indy) - DaKCManAP - Kyle Long, OT, Oregon
57 Green Bay - SNR - Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
58 Seattle - Pestilence - Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
59 Houston - DJ's left nut - Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
60 Denver - DeezNutz - Cornellius Carradine, DE, Florida State
61 New England - Marco Polo - David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
62 Atlanta - BossChief - Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU


Which of these players would you trade Albert for, straight up?

ILChief 04-17-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597241)
Agree to disagree I guess.

Jeez, Luck wasn't top 5 at his position last year

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9597232)
Yet true fans defend the OT at #1 idea by saying, "You build a team from the trenches out."

We're giving up the 1.1 for a move that could possibly be a downgrade.

On the offensive. ****ing. line. Who gives a shit?

I'm ready to ****ing bolt this goddamn team after draft day.

If Alex Smith isn't one of the top 16 QBs next year, and Eric Fisher is worse than top 10, Reid and Dorsey are gonna look dumb as ****.

O.city 04-17-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9597248)
Jeez, Luck wasn't top 5 at his position last year

Arguably.

Simply Red 04-17-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9597204)
Explain why this is good.

Someone. Anyone.

This is NOT a good thing. Reid has GOT to go!

Hammock Parties 04-17-2013 07:18 PM

Alex Smith = Matt Cassel

Eric Fisher = Tyson Jackson

Get ready for this truth to be repeated ad nauseam on this board for four years if Albert is dumped.

It's coming.

OnTheWarpath15 04-17-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9597245)
Alex Smith trade says Win Now
Branden Albert trade says Win in the Future

Together, they really say Win Never

LMAO

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/upl...a-clapping.gif

B14ckmon 04-17-2013 07:18 PM

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the "reality is" Texas A&M LT Luke Joeckel will go first overall in the draft.
La Canfora adds that the Chiefs are trying to unload LT Branden Albert, and Kansas City is "planning" to draft Joeckel first overall if they do so. Central Michigan LT Eric Fisher "will" go in the top five, and Oklahoma LT Lane Johnson is "rising." Aside from Joeckel and Fisher, other options for the Chiefs at No. 1 overall are Utah DT Star Lotulelei and Oregon DE/OLB Dion Jordan.

TribalElder 04-17-2013 07:19 PM

We must be trying to get a second rounder so we can pick up our starting LT

RealSNR 04-17-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9597217)
LaCanfora article "Teams have been made aware by the Chiefs what Albert is looking for in compensation"

Unbelievable. Why are we talking about that shit with teams? That's a piece of leverage we hold.

I can just see ol' honest John on the phone with Jeff Ireland going, "Now, Jeff, you're a buddy of mine. We went to college together, so I just want you to know that this OT we're tradin' ya... he wants somewhere around 8-9 million per year, so if yer not comfortable paying that, I don't think you should make the deal."

"Okay, John. We can do that, but I'd like to only pay a 3rd rounder."

"Oof. That's a tough bargain, but... eh, I like ya. You're an honest man. It's a deal."

Sorter 04-17-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9597233)
He's not that good.

But I'm sure he'll be fine blocking Justin Smith, Calais Campbell and Bruce Irvin 6 times a year.

ROFL

Plays LDE...ROFL

Just Passin' By 04-17-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9597240)
It's what has to happen in order for this deal to be considered even a mild success.

It's just like the Tyson Jackson pick. The move isn't going to cause many problems if it doesn't work out, but it's also extremely unlikely that it will actually benefit this team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9597241)
Agree to disagree I guess.

It just doesn't usually happen. Andrew Luck is considered a generational prospect, was taken at #1, and one can make a fair argument that he wasn't even one of the two best QBs from his draft class this past season, nevermind being a top 5 guy in the entire NFL.

notorious 04-17-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9597245)
Alex Smith trade says Win Now
Branden Albert trade says Win in the Future

Together, they really say Win Never

Profound


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