Agree.

That's fine. Remind me not to consider you for the GM spot when I buy my NFL team.

The Chiefs can probably get a slow eyed QB who can't play under center in the second round next year and sit him for the year while Alex plays out his contract.

Why not just take Geno?

Because you can get the same type of QB next year with a 2nd round pick.

A lot of people now are saying Fisher will be the #1 draft pick.

No one has any ****ing idea who were gonna draft.

You win anyway. I just defended a JET. Now I have to spend the next 2.5 hours hugging a toliet with semi-dry heaves.

Ok. Name me a qb who is like Geno who will be there in the 2nd next year.

Wow. So Joeckel and Fisher = Roaf and Munoz now?

LMAO LMAO

JFC are you kidding me? That is some of the stupidest shit.....i swear.....

Joeckel is the most ovverated OT I have ever seen.

Fisher has potential to be a solid OT for 10 years.

IF the class is as good as 2012. Then MAYBE.

I think some people need a history lesson. 2011 was a deep class of QBs, just not a particularly good one at the top. But just because 2011 and 2012 happened in succession doesn't mean we should act like they're the norm. There was still 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006... etc. You'd have to go back to 2004 to find these mythical QBs that are just as good as Geno to be had in the 2nd round.

In the meantime, what if Alex is a Cassel this year? What if we draft around the 10-15 range again, and whoever 2014's top two QBs are get drafted at 1 and 2? Shall we dip into the Brandon Weeden waters again?

The point is when you're a franchise as bad as the Chiefs have been at being in the right spot at the right time to select the right QB, which is what the true fans want us to wait for, there comes a time when you have to expedite the process a bit.

After 30 years, I think that time has come. We're gonna have to force the issue a bit. Andrew Luck isn't going to happen, and the fans are sick of waiting for us to fall ass over tea kettle into Russell Wilson.

If Geno Smith is as good as the 2nd round QB you talk about, then ****ing TAKE HIM. Get his learning going NOW. Don't wait for Alex Smith to herp and derp for 4 years before you decide we should draft a QB.

The NFL isn't a patient business. What you can do today SHOULD BE ****ING DONE TODAY.

It's because guys like Patt here like to pretend they follow the draft, but they have no idea. DC died, so now he lurks down here.

Every****ing year there is some once in a generation, mechanically perfect OL. The fact that he latches onto these guys as future HoF's is absurd.

Last year it was Kalil.
The year before that it was Smith and Pouncy.
Before that we had once in a generation guys in Okung and Williams.


It's the same shit every year. Every year there is some OL prospect compared to a HoF and some dipshit latches onto it.

back in 2010 there were people wanting us to take Okung over Berry.......thank Jesus that didn't happen.

Want to keep dancing, bro? I can do this shit too.

And here we go.....

See, people like Patt want to make it about Geno Smith.

It' not about Geno. It's never been about Geno. It's ALWAYS been about taking an early round talent and developing him instead of rehashing backup Qb after backup QB.

But people can't argue against that point, so instead they attack Geno Smith.

If Matt Barkley was considered the top prospect, then people would be advocating for Barkley.

Last year it was Tannehill (because he was the only one who MIGHT'VE been avail)
The year before that it was Clausen
The year before that it was Sanchez/Freeman

And you know what? Next year it will be Bridgewater/Murray/ whatever other QB rises to the top.

This ROFL

This :clap:

Who are you to try and decide what he is welcome or unwelcome to do? We aren't at your house. We are on the internet. On a website owned by someone that isn't you.

He's welcome to do whatever the people actually in charge around here let him do.
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Patteeu:

My brigade of evil Geno's Liberation Army child soldiers will stand down upon your unconditional surrender.

Wasn't the Barkley one suppose to air today...?

You're a ****ing idiot. So you're guaranteeing Joeckel will be a HOF LT? If you're not, your argument if queer as ****.

Chiefs are drafting Joeckel.

I'd take Troy Aikman over Brian Jozwiak any day, all day long thank you.

Because that's the same argument you are making.

Any opinions of your own to add to the conversation, or are you just going to regurgitate somebody else's broke ass assessment?

Next years QB class looks weak to me...

Bridgewater and Murray with Boyd. Thats about it.

Really?

You are going to find a 6'3", 225 lbs. three year starter (well verses in both a pro style set as well as a pistol spread system) that put up 71.2% completion, 4000+ yards, 44 TD's to only 6 Ints in one of the best football conferences in college? A former HS Parade All-American who was designing plays for his HS team?

Who is that QB that is just like that who will be available in the second round next year?

Doesn't look like it.

Definitely looks like it to me.

Except we won't be in a position to draft them...

Fales, AJ, Miller, Mariota, Bridgewater, Murray, Manziel, Boyd. As of now I could see all of them going in the first 2 rounds next year.

I wouldn't touch AJ, Murray , or Manziel.

Not to me. Especially if they bring Lilja back.

Why would a backup guard's return make any difference whatsoever? He will be replacing Albert after he gets traded. Silly.

Lilga is a guard not a tackle.

LMAO

Don't know why that cracked me up, but it did.

We discussed this in the other thread. All the moves they are making right now point to them not targeting Jockel/Fisher.

Obviously, Albert is the key. If they trade him, then a tackle will probably be the choice. But I haven't seen or heard of any team ready to pony up for him as of yet, have you?

Why would we hear about it? No team is going to make a trade until the week of the draft most likely.

And what move is showing you that they aren't targeting Joeckel or Fisher? You are being very dense right now lol

Surprisingly Blackmon Im gonna agree with you.

Well

- Franchise tagged Albert
- Brought in Schwartz
- Talking to Lilja about coming back

And that is with two guys in Stephenson and Allen that got significant playing time last year.

Like I said, it all hinges on Albert. If he gets traded, then Joeckel/Fisher is likely the pick. If not, then they won't be. As it stands this second, we are well stocked on the offensive line and do not need to take a tackle 1.1, hince me saying it doesn't look like they're going to take Joeckel/Fisher.

If it goes down like that, I'm going to have a belly busting laugh at your expense, B14ckmon, becasue that would mean the Jags would likely take either Joeckel/Fisher.

If Albert stays its Geno
If he goes its a OT

That's pretty much where I'm at with the whole thing.

Im pretty sure thats how most people on here feel.

Fales- LOL
AJ- Sucks
Miller- Who?
Mariota- Don't even try, ****tard
Bridgewater- Good
Murray- Ehhhh...
Manziel- reerun
Boyd- Maybe

QUITE THE QB CLASS YA GOT THERE

Like I said. It might look better this time next year, but it's no all too strong a class.

Looks ridiculously better than this class. You don't actually watch college football though. So you are just whining to whine.

-If you want to get something out of Albert, you HAVE to franchise tag him or else he was a FA.

-Schwartz won't change anything.

-Once again, what does a backup guard have to do with drafting a left tackle? At all?

Jaguars aren't taking a tackle. No one actually things the Jaguars would take a tackle. You need to move past it like the nfl.com mockers have after they realized how dumb it was to mock a LT to the Jaguars.

Depth wise, sure. But would you take any of them over Geno?

I think the Jags will draft Jordan.

Of course not, Geno is a 3 year starter. If Bridgewater has an equal or better season than he had this year, I would take him over Geno in a heart beat and it really isn't even close.

We're not drafting a tackle if we keep Albert. How many times do I need to say this for you to get it?

And Schwartz can take over at right tackle and have a better year than Winston did last year. I feel really comfortable saying that. He's split time between tackle and guard, playing probably 65/35 at guard, but Winston was just so bad last year that Jeff Allen might have been as good if not better there.

Most people do. It's because he fits our LEO position on defense to a T.

Do you see them taking Jordan.

I think Henne will win the qb position IMO.

I'm sorry, but the Chiefs openly shopping Albert in no way indicates to me that Albert is being kept. Teams like the Dolphins are going to evaluate players in the draft before making a trade like that. They are likely waiting to see if there is a chance Johnson drops, or if they can get him for less than what it would cost to trade for Albert.

Unfortunately I think Dion Jordan is a lock to be taken by the Jaguars unless Geno has absolutely blown them away, which I doubt he has.

No chance Henne starts. Gabbert will be the starter. Which is really irrelevant since this will be year 1 of a 2-3 year rebuild.

The Chiefs were openly shopping Dwayne Bowe and Jamaal Charles.

These trades don't always happen.

Henne is clearly better than Gabbert though.

I'm pretty sure Pioli "openly shopped" Bowe last year. I'm sure the Chiefs are "openly shopping" the first overall pick this year. Doesn't mean someone is going to step to the plate and make a deal.

Until Albert is gone, I'm keeping with that stance. If we get to the 1.1 pick and Albert is still on the roster, we will NOT take an offensive tackle with that pick.

Were they? I dont remember anything like that. Did I miss anything?

Henne was worse than Gabbert. You clearly only know of the Texans game I am guessing.

And until I see the Chiefs not draft a tackle, me and the majority of the United States will keep believing they will pick a tackle.

Yep. I dont watch the Jags because really there is no excitement in that team.

I remember Charles being shopped in Haley's first year before he exploded after we released LJ with nobody interested. I also remember reading/hearing the rumors about them looking to trade Bowe. Miami was the prime target there, becasue Bowe is from there.

Follow the sheep. Be sure to keep us updated on what Kiper and McShay think is going to happen.

Dont worry Bowser me and Sweet Dick Willie are in that .001% group who believe we wont take a tackle.

Exactly how I feel about the Chiefs. They don't even have a good WR and that is my favorite position on the football field.

I'd watch Mojo/Blackmon over Bowe/Charles any day. Even your Logo and colors are boring as shit.

Mayock yesterday changed his mock and has us taking Fisher now. Says is upside is the greatest out of all the tackles.

If we are sheep, then Dorsey/Reid are the shephards. Because they are the ones making this pick blatantly obvious.

How exactly is it blatantly obvious?

Dorsey/Reid havnt made the pick obvious.

BUT BUT Joeckel is the best tackle to ever come out of the draft in the last few years! B14ckmon heard some guy say so! This is unpossible!

Outstanding post! :clap:

This one too! :thumb:

So SNR if you were the gm of the Chiefs, come draft day what would you do?

And that is fine, 'cause most likely that means we will have already taken Geno and can use the 2nd round pick to fill in for Albert if need be.

We can get Menelik Watson or Fluker if he falls to the 2nd.

LMAO

Not laughing at you, but you do realize that SNR started the Draft Geno megathread, right?

I did not know that. My bad.

No worries. You're pretty n00bish, and that thread may have died down since you've joined.

Here you go, penbook. Lots of fun reading in here....

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=269031

And after watching that video my hard on gets bigger. If there's a God, Geno will somehow, someway be a Chief on my Birthday this year.