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BossChief 02-04-2013 01:48 PM
Joe Flacco went to a 5-11 team and led them to a 11-5 record as a rookie...5 years later won the Super Bowl and was the game MVP.

Since he took over, he has the most wins (both regular and post season) of any NFL quarterback.

I'd say he's a franchiseqb.

Without question.

O.city 02-04-2013 01:50 PM
Franchise QB. Yeah, for sure.


Elite QB? I have a hard time saying yes on that one.

unlurking 02-04-2013 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9377819)
Joe Flacco went to a 5-11 team and led them to a 11-5 record as a rookie...5 years later won the Super Bowl and was the game MVP.

Since he took over, he has the most wins (both regular and post season) of any NFL quarterback.

I'd say he's a franchiseqb.

Without question.
Without a ****ing doubt. I think people are just quibbling about elite vs franchise at this point.

RyFo18 02-04-2013 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9377847)
Without a ****ing doubt. I think people are just quibbling about elite vs franchise at this point.
Semantics

unlurking 02-04-2013 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9377901)
Semantics
Either way, he's a guy you can build a team around. Which was the definition of franchise QB when I was growing up, not whether or not he could carry a shitty franchise by himself.

Marcellus 02-04-2013 02:52 PM
I can easily say I was wrong about Flacco. Granted early on he was winning games off his defense's back but now he is carrying the defense.

Great way to build a franchise. Badass defense to carry the load while your QB develops. Defense gets old and gets carried by the QB later.

Good job Ozzy.

unlurking 02-04-2013 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9377796)
...That's how I view a 'franchise' QB - a force multiplier that makes everyone else on his team better...
Since when did this become the definition of a franchise QB? Granted I only started watching the NFL in the 80's, but when I was growing up a franchise QB was a guy you could build a team around, not a guy to carry a shitty team because your coaches & FO were incompetent.

Setsuna 02-04-2013 03:56 PM
HECCCCKKKK NO!

Sorter 02-04-2013 04:33 PM
Caldwell has done a fantastic job in helping Joe develop IMO.

Pin Head 02-04-2013 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9377796)
If you take an 8-8 team and put him at the helm, are they a SB winner? Can he make a 6-10 team a playoff team?

That's how I view a 'franchise' QB - a force multiplier that makes everyone else on his team better.

Flacco doesn't do that, IMO. He's not an accurate enough passer for long enough stretches for that. Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Peyton are guys that can throw 50 footballs and hit their target 48 times. They're smart decisionmakers that can run any offense they're given.

Flacco's not that level of guy. He's a very good quarterback and someone I would gladly have lead my team, but he's not to the level of the truly stellar, IMO.
but Superbowl bling is stellar. I take that 'risk' because I like my chances with Flacco as my guy. He's a bit inconsistent and I won't dispute that but I like the way he shows up and responds to adversity in big games when it counts.

BlackHelicopters 02-04-2013 06:11 PM
The Chiefs didn't even play the same game as did SF and Bal did his season.


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