Why in the world should a person blindly trust anyone about anything?

Bill Voth ‏@billvoth
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Well, I know you won't. But I've heard plenty of people on this board say that his history with QBs is good enough that no matter who he picks, we'll trust he made the right call.

Wanted to make it clear... Reid will get the most out of his QBs. But I don't necessarily trust him to pick the right one.

Also, let's not undersell the McNabb selection. From '99-'09, this was Red's guy. The one time he was at the top of the draft and in need of a QB, Reid hit a HR.

Well, aside from this...Yeah, aside from that small rumble earlier today, it's been an average Saturday in Alaska.

Let's see who the GM is, too. If it's Dorsey, I'm feeling even better about things. And I wouldn't see this as a typical "tree hire."

Yes, the two have history, but coaching circles are smaller than shit anyway. It's all six degrees of __ in the NFL.

Yup. Not saying Reid is going to whiff on this. Just like we need to see where he's going with the DC hire. I'm not going to anoint him some QB guru until I see what he does here. But while he hit on McNabb, he also seemed content to anoint Kolb as a QBOTF and relied for years on mostly journeymen until he had to pretty much bow to pressure to bench him.

Anyone with a ear in the organization hearing anything about asst. coaches?

Baylor completely dominated K State as well... should Baylor HC Art Briles also get NFL consideration?

10 of the past 15 Super Bowl winners were won by HC in their second job.

I like those odds better than say Chip Kelly considering that only two college HC's without any prior NFL experience (Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer... who essentially won with Jimmy Johnson's team in Dallas) have won a Super Bowl during the past 30+ years.

When the Eagles traded McNabb to Washington under one of the alleged best offensive coaches, Mike Shanahan, McNabb posted his worst QB rating ever in five/six games. He also threw more interceptions than TDs for the first time in his career. He fared no better with the Vikings. I could not believe how quickly McNabb fell.

As far as I can remember, Reid did an amazing job in a very short period with Garcia, Feeley, Young and Kolb. History will surely remember the speed of failure these backups had once they moved on.

Feeley had a short game stretch and Reid turned him into a second round pick. Kolb, who played only six games, was traded for the second round and Dominque Rogers-Cromartie. Obviously, great value for garbage.

Vick went from prison for two years to becoming runner-up in the 2010 MVP race in just his first season back as starter under Reid’s tutelage.

It will be interesting to see how Foles performs without Reid’s guidance this season.

Anybody want to change their vote?

Lol. Homer votes rule

Nope. He was the best hire the Clark's could have made at the time. Still better than anyone available right now unless you want to take a flier on someone. Probably won't ever take us to a SB, but at least we're not 2-14

Here were all the coaches hired the year the Chiefs got Reid. All were jokes except for Arians.


1. Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs
When a franchise with one of the largest, most passionate fan bases in the NFL has been in the toilet for so long, they have to go big, literally. The Chiefs tried the hot young coordinator once before, with Todd Haley. They replaced him with the well-liked, friendly neighborhood candy store owner in Romeo Crennel. Reid brings a long, successful track record from Philadelphia. Reid's a proven commodity in need of a fresh start, kind of like the Chiefs.

2. Chip Kelly, Philadelphia Eagles
This was the biggest surprise of the coaching moves. Not because Kelly was an unexpected candidate, but because a week before he had spurned the NFL, again, to go back to Oregon. Pundits are hung up on Kelly's read option offense, giving us excellent, insightful reactionary analysis like this piece at NFL.com from Heath Evans. Surprise, a former fullback doesn't like the read option! What's being overlooked is Kelly's ability as a program builder. He has a vision, a plan and a thoughtful approach. The Eagles are that person that goes from one long-term relationship to another, and that should work out just fine with Kelly.

3. Marc Trestman, Chicago Bears
This one is iffy. Trestman's background in the CFL brought out the comedian in every hack with a blog. Here's the thing -- the guy was successful in the CFL. Success anywhere, be it college or Canada, is a good sign. But, hey, if you want to go ahead and hire the Jim Moras and Bobby Petrinos of the world, go right ahead. Trestman feels like a technocrat, a guy that has already planned out his year hour-by-hour. It's the kind of structure the Bears need after winging their way through the Lovie Smith era. Oh, and don't forget that Trestman is a quarterback specialist.

4. Gus Bradley, Jacksonville Jaguars
Hey look, a defensive guy! Bradley's track record as Seattle's defensive coordinator is untouchable. For all the praise Russell Wilson received this season, deservedly so, Bradley's defense took the Seahawks to the playoffs in two of the last three seasons. His work with rookies Bobby Wagner and Bruce Irvin this year speaks for itself. More importantly, the guy brings energy and excitement to a franchise that's been under heavy sedation for almost a decade. Grind up some bath salts, it's morning in Northern Florida.

5. Mike McCoy, San Diego Chargers
"Dude, we got Mike McCoy!," no Chargers fan ever said. That's all right, not every hire needs a parade. McCoy made Jake Delhomme and Tim Tebow look like viable NFL quarterbacks, which is kind of impressive. Offensive coordinator became an honorary title with Peyton Manning in Denver, so it was time for him to fly. Can he get some productivity out of Philip Rivers in the twilight of his career? Can he and new GM Tom Telesco find and groom Rivers' eventual replacement? At least the days of blowing a 24-point lead to the Broncos appear to be over ... maybe.

6. Doug Marrone, Buffalo Bills
If Doug Marrone can do for the Bills what he did for Syracuse, Andrew Cuomo might have to recognize him as upstate New York's foremost turnaround specialist. Syracuse won 10 games in the four years before Marrone took over. Under his watch, he lead the Orange to two winning seasons and a pair of bowl games. He's an energy guy as well, a notable difference from Chan Gailey radiating motivation through his half moon specs. Marrone hired a top-notch defensive coordinator in Mike Pettine, and brought his man Nathaniel Hackett from Syracuse to be the OC. It looks like a good hire, but he's got a big job ahead of him.

7. Rob Chudzinski, Cleveland Browns
The Browns thought they had Chip Kelly. Now, you have to wonder if that was just Joe Banner trying to keep Jeff Lurie away from him. Kelly has since said the Browns were never an option for him. Cleveland hired Chud pretty quickly after being rejected by Kelly. No other NFL team, at least not publicly, was interested in Chud as a head coach. In fact, he seems a little like this year's Mike Mularkey. The Panthers were supposed to improve this season, Cam Newton's second year. They didn't. Besides a talent-poor defense, the Panthers had a confused offensive identity. Norv Turner is the offensive coordinator now, which could go either way. The best news for the Browns might be the decision to make Ray Horton the defensive coordinator, but will probably lose him to a head coaching offer soon enough.

8. Bruce Arians, Arizona Cardinals
I'm not really sure about this one. What Arians did this year as an interim for Chuck Pagano was impressive. On the other hand, a beloved head coach fighting cancer is one helluva motivating factor. Arians' Colts also had a pretty talented quarterback in Andrew Luck and a painfully easy schedule. The Bidwills are notoriously inept at running a football team (full disclosure: I'm from St. Louis) and the handling of the situation with Ray Horton was not a good way to start a new era.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/1/1...eid-chip-kelly

Thats pretty silly.

Said it then
Said it every year since


Andy Reid is a great hire for the Chiefs. He is a great recovery guy who brings instant respectability to an organization in the dumpster.

BUT ........

The organization also has to be developing a short list of replacements because Reid is a limited HC, similar to Schottenheimer. I believe I said at the time of his hire that 5 years was the target year to be looking to replace him.

I would 100% like to change my vote!

We need another poll

Do we? Or do you just mean to "get it on the record"?

I didn't vote, but I wasn't happy. I understood the move by Clark, but knew we had a greater chance of failure than winning a SB.

A greater chance than what? With who? I didn't like the hire at first because I thought he would be burnt out but I was wrong. At this point It was a great hire.

Pretty popular hire I'd say.



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I guess I didn't vote, but I'd have been a 'no' as pretty much everyone could guess...

Gee I wish we had our own Vance Joseph or Doug Marrone....

lol, stay happy with Reid...

We swept the division with Andy as the HC and that doesn't happen much.

Andy is my big brothers name. I'll meet a person and they'll say "Hi my name is Andy" I'll say "that's my big big brothers name and I never liked him much. He's an asshole. So you seem alright though."