The Rooney's are involv...oh, wait...

I'm not sure it's as much a question of a physical presence as it is the lack of any real presence and consecutive decisions that show no indication of caring. So his being here to console the team was a nice touch and very appropriate - that's not my beef. I'm not looking for a Jerry Jones in terms of visibility, but it'd be nice to know that Pioli's issues not being addressed. So I get the quiet types, but frequently you don't have to the see the owner to see he's making changes. And who ever said that a word from the owner is a bad thing?

We'll see how he handles this offseason. What he does will forever show that he doesn't give a flying ****. egoli will be here, crennel will "retire". we'll draft a d lineman. quinn will start. we'll draft landry jones to back him up

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What an epic failure

So much fail when the guy doesn't even show up...

What was your honest opinion when Pioli was hired? Did you think oh shit what a mistake, this shows Clark doesn't care?

If he fails to address the situation this off season, yea it shows Clark is nutless. I don't think that's going to happen.

We all thought it was a good hire, but not putting him on a PIP after so many clearly questionable player acquisitions and not getting close enough to see how these poor acquisitions were a sign that it was a LOT more than him being the "magic" that is New England, is what draws so much ire from me. So as I said before, no need to a Jerry Jones, but if you're not going to be a Jerry Jones you need to be close enough to remind him that these head-scratching first-round picks, and an allegiance to a QB that only he sees as a franchise QB, has him on a short short rope. Gum wrappers??? I mean I get the concept of attention to detail, but Chunt letting Pioli do all these things that were cheap knock-offs of the Patriot way sure don't seem to work without an world-class QB and equally awesome head coach - who seems anything but affected by what the GM thinks. I could be wrong, but I don't think BB ever really cared too much about what Pioli thought!

Undue pressure on a GM? Nope, it's the nature of the business. When you talk the owner into paying a QB that kind of coin, you tell the QB he's going to have to perform.

I'm not saying it's easy, but we all have numbers we have to meet "or else."

How do you know he didn't put him on a PI plan?

Just like anybody else, you call them in and give them performance metric they need to meet or exceed. It's no different between than any other employee, it might just be done over dinner at Morton's instead of the office. In the end, he's an employee just like every other employee. They all have challenges in terms of supervising, but in the end you don't have to be specific about the "or else." I'm sure if he just indicated that if some of these questionable hires don't produce on the field, he may have to bring in some people to help him make those final decisions and judge talent and the team's needs. Subtle but effective for a proud man like Scott.

Only it is.

A huge difference...

ROFL At the people in this thread who not only have the audacity to call Hunt stupid, but also provide their takes on how to be a good owner. It's similar to those who say they "watch the tape" and act as if they know coaching strategy.

Shut up.

You're right, it's done with a $500 bottle of wine, cloth napkins and a coat check... Other than that, the base concept is the same.

If it was Pioli would have been stripped down as a human being and thrown out on his ass after game 5...

Then there's that non-HR-recommended way of handling it...

The way most employers do.

If you fail horribly, at every level, and do so for years...well, in the real world that's not even possible.

I'm not against it... If we're going to have a reasonable "failure is not an option" mindset, longterm employment for just showing up is going to need to be a thing of the past... So picking up gum wrappers is fine, but you need 12 wins in the regular season to keep working here... and even with that mindset, if we had another year like last year - where so many players had legitimate season-ending injuries - I'm willing to bet there would have been some deserved understanding.

And where do you go to school?

Clark Hunt is the man at the helm of ruining your sundays for the past several years. My opinion is that he will continue to do this to you:D

That is Clark Hunt's legacy. If he has done anything for his wealth per se, it has not contributed to the riches that are the Lamar Hunt & father estate.

Break it down do simple terms:

1) Pioli has never drafted a player who has HOF potential in 4 years.
2) Pioli has not drafted or signed more than 1 pro bowl player in 4 years.
3) In 4 years Pioli has only taken this team to one playoff game. We were not competitive in that game.

Compare that performance to any other GM in the league...

This thread should be bumped in a month when Clark keeps Pioli.

The people defending him right now will change their tune and destroy him.

Can't wait. I'll have the popcorn ready!

But Jerry Jones is smart, right?

I was excited bc we finally got carl out after like 3 centuries of bullsh#t. I was truly excited about pioli then one of my college buddies from mass was like pioli has been riding the bellicheat n brady wave & he didnt care they lost him like everyone else from the aids tree...when he said that I was like whatever man ur just pissed u lost the true genius. he reminds me of that conversation every ****ing time I talk to him. but back to your point Yes I was excited & I did think wow this is sweet clark is hands on as **** he aint taking sh#t! All I know is that this offseason is so ****ing hugely important for clark its not even funny. I honestly dont think he truly cares about this franchise he just cares about his online bank statement so as of now im thinking hes gonna completely **** it up & keep pioli. clark doesnt know what to do

wait whatd you say? I can't hear you, these 3 superbowl rings & handful of cowboy hofers are in the way -jerry

jERRY won 3 Super Bowls?...

I graduated with a 4.0 from a little school called Cornell. Ever heard of it? Oh what's that...nobody cares?

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pretty sure he bought the boys in 89' right? correct me if im wrong but 1992 1993 1995 come after 1989 right?

Ok, just wanted to make sure you attributed all that to him...

Apparently, he won 3 SB's...

"you dint build that!!"

No, I didn't.

Dude, read some of my posts and then compare them to yours.

I tried to do the same thing but I couldn't understand most of the shit you are saying. Make believe rants
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lets see here...jerry buys the team...hires jimmy...jimmy drafts aikman...they win 3 superbowls...where does the credit go? the mexican living under the bridge outside the stadium?

That was when he was letting Jimmy Johnson run things. After Jerry took all control over the team and its operations, it became a completely mediocre team.

Jimmy drafted Aikman, coached the team, made all the personnel decisions. But yeah, if you want to give credit to Jones for making one good decision in 20 years, be my guest.

"one good decision in 20 years" yielded 3 championships. And OBTW- Switzer won one of those rings, so I guess you think Switzer was the braintrust there also. Either way, beats the shit out of one good decision in 50 years that yielded only one championship. But that's just me.

umm yeah I will. that one choice sh#ts all over the 60 year history of our franchise

Should have been more.

Wow, no shit. Does that make Jerry Jones some kind of ****ing football genius? they've won one playoff game since 1996, with every resource under the sun.

In before "better than KC, derp", which avoids the point.

jerry jones > **** family

whats your point again brock?

The point is pretty clear. People running down Hunt's intelligence are of the same dumbass level as those who talk about watching tape of Bowe's route running. They're dumbasses.

The bus will pick you up early in the morning....so off to bed SPED.

Agree that attacks on Hunt's level of intelligence are ridiculous at best. There is simply no question that he's a bright guy.

However, it's more than fair to question his passion for winning, but that's an entirely different (rehashed) thread.

He hired a great HC that won for half a decade.

After that HC left he's been pathetic.

Same as KC...

haha good one.

just because chunt was good at reading stuff in a book and writing it down on a test does not make him "smart"....I got a finance degree from a major university and most of the kids who got A +'s couldnt even hold a normal conversation. who the fuck would hire a reerun like that where the employer has to hold their dick every 5 minutes. they dont. they do research their whole lives cus they cant think outside the box. clark has no idea what hes doing with our franchise.

and for bowe, he drops big catches and doesnt give it 100% every game. if u dont see that youre not watching

He had more "resources" than the Hunts? Like cleats for the players, and all our players had was gray tape?

Too bad you didn't major in English.

Not the start to a brilliant argument...

Who uses tape anymore, we all have HD DVRs...

im glad I didnt, id be unemployed or living on food stamps like every other english major in this country

Boom. Agree, as I stated earlier in the thread. It's obnoxious, yet people continue on as if they know what they're talking about.

You can't be far off. It's a wonder how people who can't even form and phrase a coherent thought are employed.

370 posts into you CP career and you've defined obnoxious.. Eric Winston would say that's disgusting...

This might be one of the dumbest posts ever on CP, which is saying alot.

THAT'S NOT..........EH.........****....:(

clark isnt one of these baller entrepreneurial self made billionaires...hes a guy who lived in privilege his whole life and does not know what its like to grind his ass off working fulltime in college to pay for it or working in the mail room and working his way up to cfo. I dont see why all you guys suck his D so hard.

the dude is way in over his head. he does not know football or how to run a massive business

You argue what you want but that's as clear a perfect balance between sports and priorities as there ever was...

When he's not dealing with locals he has a rapport with, I've never thought Clark seemed particularly comfortable dealing with media. Even under good circumstances. I don't think it's much of a surprise if he didn't come off well to someone under some of the worst circumstances possible.

Are you implying there is something wrong with that? Up until now Clark hired the GM everyone wanted and gave him room to work. It is clear he isn't right for the job. If he gets rid of him he continues to show he wants a real GM. If he doesn't he is showing he really isn't that concerned about the team.

How is that any kind of changing of tune? It would just follow what we have been saying.

Except we aren't talking about 60 years, we are talking about what Clark has done. Since he took over he removed a GM his daddy wouldn't and went out and got the GM everyone said was the best man for the job. He then followed by giving Scott 4 years. There is nothing crazy about that. If he fires him this off season I don't see how Clark has done anything wrong with the GM position.

The difference between Jerry and Clark is this, one got his first hire right and one didn't. Problem is Clark hired the man everybody thought was right so I think its wildy unfair to rip him for it. I venture a guess that you were happy with the Pioli hire. Beyond that, Jerry has made a mess of the team on the field since then.

You could argue that because Jerry has actually admitted in public he would fire the GM for his performance if HE wasn't the GM, that Jerry is more about making money and having fun than anything else.

Jerry Jones > Chunt

Cowboys roster > Chiefs roster

Jerry Jones life achievements > Clarks

3 superbowls > 1 in 60 years

Cowboys franchise > chiefs franchise

Jerry Jones sh#ts on Clark in every aspect.

At least Jerry cares about his team and is involved in every process AND has a deep passion for the game of football. Clark just sits back, lives in dallas, watches away games on tv, and makes sure the chiefs are profitable, which every team in the league is. clarks a joke. he has not accomplished anything of actual significance in his life.

You haven't yet graduated from pre-school.

Finance degree from a major university, my ass.

ROFL

Man, that's pretty low.

That's one thing I'll never do is comment on a man's intelligence (outside of the Internet of course LMAO). I find that to be the most insulting thing you can do..

Especially to the media.

It's the southern accent.

I look at it more like this: Jerry Jones got lucky that he hired a great head coach and evaluator in Jimmy Johnson, and got three super bowls out of it. Jerry Jones also couldn't get out of his own way and has been largely irrelevant since.

All Hunt needs to do is get lucky and find that great talent evaluator and coach and we know he will get out of the way and let it roll, much like Bob Kraft has done in New England. And then everyone will be talking about what a great owner he is. Of course the trick is he still has to hire the right guy...

Jerruh Jones kept Norv Turner employed for years and is the reason he still gets coaching jobs almost 20 years later.

Advantage: Hunt

youre funny.
Actually its an economics degree. & too bad I don't give 2 sh#ts about my reputation on a internet message board to take a picture of my diploma hanging on my wall at home after work today to post it. you sir, can suck it.

I guess you just proved your point about someone with "book learnin'" not necessarily being smart IRL. Congrats!

he got lucky playing on the same university of Arkansas football team as jimmy back in the day.
Jerry is a bad ass. just admit it. You wish you won a national championship playing football. Then started an extremely successful oil and gas company. Then bought the cowboys for like a tenth the value it is today. probably more. I do anyway. I'll take a self made billionaire baller owner/gm over some silver spoon fed soccer playing pussy bitch any day.

Clark probably is a reerun talking to him unless you're talking to him about Tbonds or mutual funds. The reporter didn't just come up with that out of the blue.

I wasn't book smart. I worked my ass off working part time all through college to graduate in 4 and a half years with a good enough gpa to get a solid paying job right out of college. something clark knows nothing about.

that's surprising, because your posts make you sound like a complete dumbass.

bottom line is, I don't think Clark knows what to do with our franchise, nor does he care to think about it long enough to make a good choice either.

Ironic since Jerry Jones was a silver spoon kid as well.

he turned that silver spoon into a gold & platinum spoon with diamonds on it

Wouldn't matter.

Even if you actually had a diploma, and cared enough to prove it with a picture of said diploma hanging on the wall, I would not believe it was yours.

You're a ****ing idiot.

There's no way in hell you have the intelligence to graduate from pre-school, much less high school, then college.