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BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8632982)
He wasn't the OC, the Vikings also had a far better team. Plus I really doubt Favre really takes much to coaching at his age now. It was more than likely Favre teaching Daboll a few things about QB's.

LOL I just noticed Daboll was just the WR coach in NY.

Clay is just reaching here because he hates Pioli, which I understand.

However, bashing Daboll at OC makes no since now because there isnt a large enough sample size to judge him.

RustShack 05-22-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8632990)
You said no one ever does well in Cleveland.

Clearly, you were wrong.

When was the last time Cleveland won a playoff game, sustained success for more than a year, or even had a team half as stacked as the Chiefs are now?

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8632991)
LOL I just noticed Daboll was just the WR coach in NY.

He was the quarterbacks coach for two years. All the quarterbacks were shit.

Clearly that says he's awesome.

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However, bashing Daboll at OC makes no since now because there isnt a large enough sample size to judge him.
His three years as an OC, and his two years as a QB coach, indicate he's shit.

Saying anything else is just homer hope.

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8632996)
When was the last time Cleveland won a playoff game, sustained success for more than a year, or even had a team half as stacked as the Chiefs are now?

That's irrelevant.

We're talking about Brian Daboll, who has a shitty history as an OC.

He failed in Cleveland.

Not everyone fails in Cleveland. The previous OC had at least one good year.

Not Daboll. He maintained the proud tradition of Cleveland suck.

Clearly someone we should hire.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8632999)
He was the quarterbacks coach for two years. All the quarterbacks were shit.

Clearly that says he's awesome.



His three years as an OC, and his two years as a QB coach, indicate he's shit.

Saying anything else is just homer hope.

I misread Wiki.

This mean very little.

I'll ask again... Why did Saunders have success when he had talent to work with and sucked when he didnt?

He hasnt done shit since 05.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633003)
That's irrelevant.

We're talking about Brian Daboll, who has a shitty history as an OC.

He failed in Cleveland.

Not everyone fails in Cleveland. The previous OC had at least one good year.

Not Daboll. He maintained the proud tradition of Cleveland suck.

Clearly someone we should hire.

Spin city. You cant argue this on every front so you're just deflecting with 'Thats irrelevant'

So, since he hasnt coached the Chiefs O yet, everything you say is irrelevant and I will wait until the season gets underway.

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:02 PM

Cleveland's history is quite irrelevant, since Brian Daboll has proven his suck with 3 separate franchises.

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8633012)
I misread Wiki.

This mean very little.

I'll ask again... Why did Saunders have success when he had talent to work with and sucked when he didnt?

He hasnt done shit since 05.

Really?

The last two years he's coordinated two VERY successful offenses in Oakland.

You lose this argument.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633021)
Cleveland's history is quite irrelevant, since Brian Daboll has proven his suck with 3 separate franchises.

LMAO

What about Saunders?

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633023)
Really?

The last two years he's coordinated two VERY successful offenses in Oakland.

You lose this argument.

Not really. NOTHING like he did in KC and St. Louis.

What about Washington? Spin that.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633023)
Really?

The last two years he's coordinated two VERY successful offenses in Oakland.

You lose this argument.

Wait. 2 years?

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8633032)
Not really. NOTHING like he did in KC and St. Louis.

What about Washington? Spin that.

Top 10 in yards or points two years in a row is proof enough that Al Saunders is a good coach.

If Brian Daboll had ANY qualifications to be an NFL OC, I'd give him a break.

Right now he doesn't.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633042)
Top 10 in yards or points two years in a row is proof enough that Al Saunders is a good coach.

If Brian Daboll had ANY qualifications to be an NFL OC, I'd give him a break.

Right now he doesn't.

2 yrs in Cleveland with shitty QBs and little talent.

1 yr in Miami and he made Moore and Bush look pretty good.

You have no way of knowing.

Rausch 05-22-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8633012)
I'll ask again... Why did Saunders have success when he had talent to work with and sucked when he didnt?

Is this a serious question?

RustShack 05-22-2012 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633003)
That's irrelevant.

We're talking about Brian Daboll, who has a shitty history as an OC.

He failed in Cleveland.

Not everyone fails in Cleveland. The previous OC had at least one good year.

Not Daboll. He maintained the proud tradition of Cleveland suck.

Clearly someone we should hire.

That good OC wasn't so good the next year. Why would it magically be good two years later again for Daboll?

RustShack 05-22-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8632999)
He was the quarterbacks coach for two years. All the quarterbacks were shit.

Clearly that says he's awesome.



His three years as an OC, and his two years as a QB coach, indicate he's shit.

Saying anything else is just homer hope.

How he does as a position coach is irrelevant to how he does as an OC. Especially considering his best year was his last year. What in gods name makes you think he would get worse with a lot more talent?

T-post Tom 05-22-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 8631662)
Guys with access to PFF or whatever might come in handy for this. I know its a tall task. For your troubles, you will be repped and I will gift you my casino cash.

I will give you all the analysis you need for one Aussie trollop and a cheap hotel room.

RustShack 05-22-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633021)
Cleveland's history is quite irrelevant, since Brian Daboll has proven his suck with 3 separate franchises.

The season hasn't started in his third OC stint, can't judge him there yet. Also his second stint as OC was pretty successful. Not sure where you're going here.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8633068)
Is this a serious question?

Yes

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8633085)
The season hasn't started in his third OC stint, can't judge him there yet. Also his second stint as OC was pretty successful. Not sure where you're going here.

His second stint as an OC was not successful. Miami's offense sucked.

This guy has sucked everywhere as a coach the last five years.

But idiots love him. Likely the same idiots who like DMC.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8633085)
The season hasn't started in his third OC stint, can't judge him there yet. Also his second stint as OC was pretty successful. Not sure where you're going here.

He says 3 because he's counting NY. :rolleyes:

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633093)
His second stint as an OC was not successful. Miami's offense sucked.

This guy has sucked everywhere as a coach the last five years.

But idiots love him. Likely the same idiots who like DMC.

You suck at debating rationally.

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8633079)
What in gods name makes you think he would get worse with a lot more talent?

Where did I say he was gonna get worse?

Try to keep up here: his history says he sucks. So, likely, he's gonna take our talent, and hinder it. So we'll end up probably ranked in the low teens on offense, which is garbage considering our skill positions.

If we're not a top 15 offense next season, Daboll is confirmed as a giant POS.

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8633095)
You suck at debating rationally.

I just present the facts.

The facts are: Daboll's coaching history is a giant bag of elephant shit.

Enjoy polishing it, idiots.

RustShack 05-22-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633093)
His second stint as an OC was not successful. Miami's offense sucked.

This guy has sucked everywhere as a coach the last five years.

But idiots love him. Likely the same idiots who like DMC.

I'll take the #11 offense here gladly. Theres also a pretty good chance it would have even better if he had more than one year, or if it wasn't a lockout year at least instead.

Oh and before you get your panties in a bunch, yes it was only the second half of the year. And I know it kills you that we hired someone whos progressing instead of old and getting worse.

RustShack 05-22-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633099)
I just present the facts.

The facts are: Daboll's coaching history is a giant bag of elephant shit.

Enjoy polishing it, idiots.

History says every coach that sucks at first will suck always right? No way you suck with the Browns then go on to win three Super Bowls with the Patriots huh?

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8633104)
History says every coach that sucks at first will suck always right? No way you suck with the Browns then go on to win three Super Bowls with the Patriots huh?

Oh, snap!

DenverChief 05-22-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 8631715)
The Denver Browncos were famous

so you are saying we are going to be the Kansas City Briefs?

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8633104)
History says every coach that sucks at first will suck always right?

This guy has done jack shit as a coach in five years. That's a long ****ing time to suck. Even Herm Edwards didn't suck that much before he came to KC.

The only people who are glad Daboll are in KC are idiot homers who give blowjobs to anyone in a red helmet.

Gadzooks 05-22-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633118)
This guy has done jack shit as a coach in five years. That's a long ****ing time to suck. Even Herm Edwards didn't suck that much before he came to KC.

The only people who are glad Daboll are in KC are idiot homers who give blowjobs to anyone in a red helmet.

I don't often agree with GoChiefs, but he's got a solid point.:hmmm:

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633118)
This guy has done jack shit as a coach in five years. That's a long ****ing time to suck. Even Herm Edwards didn't suck that much before he came to KC.

The only people who are glad Daboll are in KC are idiot homers who give blowjobs to anyone in a red helmet.

Only 3 yrs as OC, which is all you can really count. Nobody tracks the performance of position coaches except HCs and GMs.

So, 3 yrs.

You were bitching about intellectual dishonesty, well you're guilty of it now.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8633121)
I don't often agree with GoChiefs, but he's got a solid point.:hmmm:

No, he doesnt.

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8633127)
Only 3 yrs as OC, which is all you can really count. Nobody tracks the performance of position coaches except HCs and GMs.

So, 3 yrs.

You were bitching about intellectual dishonesty, well you're guilty of it now.

What? How?

It's a ****ing fact that this guy sucked as a QB coach.

If you don't think that's relevant you're an idiot.

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 10:57 PM

FYI, here's the name of another guy who sucked dick as a position coach, and who also sucked dick as an OC:

BILL MUIR

So yeah, sorry, history as a position coach matters.

Gadzooks 05-22-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633136)
FYI, here's the name of another guy who sucked dick as a position coach, and who also sucked dick as an OC:

BILL MUIR

So yeah, sorry, history as a position coach matters.

I don't often agree with GoChiefs, but he's got a solid point.:hmmm:

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633131)
What? How?

It's a ****ing fact that this guy sucked as a QB coach.

If you don't think that's relevant you're an idiot.

Other than Favre tossing 22 INTs, I dont see what the problem was.

Pennington had a 68% comp. in 07.


Explain how Daboll was a bad QB coach.

Gadzooks 05-22-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8633128)
No, he doesnt.

Dave, It's never encouraging when a defensive minded coach brings in an OC with a short and shitty resume. It's not like Romeo can guide him down the path of offensive enlightenment. It's a job security move by Crennel. Roli Pioli will have to do a total coaching upheaval if he fires Crennel and they both know it. I'm surprised Pioli allowed this to happen.

BigChiefFan 05-22-2012 11:11 PM

He's a fairly young coach, who's had some success and knows alot about our personel, especially the QB. I think that works in our favor of somebody who will try and work to our strengths. Given the choices, I think it was a solid hire.

ChiefAshhole20 05-22-2012 11:12 PM

If he can make Matt Moore look like he did last year with Bush, Marshall, Bess, etc. than I am comfortable enough to see what he can make Cassel look like with our shit ton of talent. Also, I'm starting to think that most of the problem with our O wasn't Cassel necessarily, but instead Haley. Big Ben is even having problems working with the guy, you think there could be a chance Cassel just wasn't a good fit with him, and suffered because of it? I'm pretty sure Pioli knows more about football and talent evaluation than us, so maybe, just maybe he could know what he is talking about when he says Cassel can be the QB for this team with Daboll as our OC/ playcaller.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8633151)
Dave, It's never encouraging when a defensive minded coach brings in an OC with a short and shitty resume. It's not like Romeo can guide him down the path of offensive enlightenment. It's a job security move by Crennel. Roli Pioli will have to do a total coaching upheaval if he fires Crennel and they both know it. I'm surprised Pioli allowed this to happen.

Oh, you mean like when Belichick brought Weis?

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8633142)
Other than Favre tossing 22 INTs, I dont see what the problem was.
.

Let's take a look at the 07/08 Jets.

07 Jets - passing offense stunk. Pennington threw 10 TD and 9 INT in 9 games. That's fairly shitty. Clemens sucked in every ****ing way.

08 Jets - 32nd in interceptions. Favre had a shitty year, especially for him.

What's not to like?

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8633151)
Roli Pioli will have to do a total coaching upheaval if he fires Crennel and they both know it. I'm surprised Pioli allowed this to happen.

Clark Hunt is going to fire Pioli after this season, and we'll flush all the Patriots Shit down the toilet.

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633174)
Let's take a look at the 07/08 Jets.

07 Jets - passing offense stunk. Pennington threw 10 TD and 9 INT in 9 games. That's fairly shitty. Clemens sucked in every ****ing way.

08 Jets - 32nd in interceptions. Favre had a shitty year, especially for him.

What's not to like?

25 ppg. 405 pts. 9th ranked offensive in 2008

BigMeatballDave 05-22-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633177)
Clark Hunt is going to fire Pioli after this season, and we'll flush all the Patriots Shit down the toilet.

Pipe dream

Hammock Parties 05-22-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8633180)
25 ppg. 405 pts. 9th ranked offensive in 2008

That's great that he was a part of that. I'm sure he had a lot of input in their running game as their QB coach.

Fact is, his resume sucks, and he was hired because he's part of the tree. Bunch of bullshit, but homers gonna home.

Quote:

Pipe dream
No, Dave, it's not a dream. You may tolerate failure, but Clark Hunt doesn't.

If we don't win the division next year, he'll can all these assholes. He expects results.

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633177)
Clark Hunt is going to fire Pioli after this season, and we'll flush all the Patriots Shit down the toilet.

Why would we fire Pioli? He's done a very good job in four seasons. He inherited a team coming off of 15 wins in three seasons, with one of the worst rosters in the entire NFL. In a short time frame, he's gutted the entire team and already been able to put in new starters with quality depth.

Is the team complete? No, but, one more off-season and we may have the deepest team top to bottom in the entire NFL, especially if we can retain our talent and keep developing our draftees.

Let's not start waving the white flag before he even gets a chance to compete with the team he's finally molding to his vision of a team competing toe to toe with the very best. I think we're closer than some may think and you might as well enjoy the ride.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633200)
Why would we fire Pioli?

Lack of results.

Win, or get the **** out.

nychief 05-23-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633208)
Lack of results.

Win, or get the **** out.

What if your mom held you to the same standard?

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633208)
Lack of results.

Win, or get the **** out.

As a GM, he has plenty of positive results. Love you babe, but your turning to the dark side, young Skywalker.

Titty Meat 05-23-2012 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633152)
He's a fairly young coach, who's had some success and knows alot about our personel, especially the QB. I think that works in our favor of somebody who will try and work to our strengths. Given the choices, I think it was a solid hire.

Success in what? Getting fired?

Titty Meat 05-23-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633214)
As a GM, he has plenty of positive results. Love you babe, but your turning to the dark side, young Skywalker.

Last place 2 out of the 3 years he's been here.

nychief 05-23-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8633216)
Success in what? Getting fired?

Coaches move. He was fired with regimes. He is 37, let's not be too hasty.

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8633218)
Last place 2 out of the 3 years he's been here.

Last place in the AFC West, maybe, but by one ****ing game. We we're 7-9 and 8-8 took the division. Considering how many starters went down, that's not bad. I'm talking about as a GM, he's built a solid roster in a short time frame.

Again, he inherited a team that won 15 in 3 seasons, with one of the worst rosters in the entire NFL and look where we are now.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633223)
look where we are now.

We have the worst QB in the division and the worst HC in the division.

Get ready to finish 3rd or 4th again.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2012 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633214)
As a GM, he has plenty of positive results.

The goal of a GM is not to assemble a talented roster that doesn't win.

Pioli has to ****ing win, or get the **** out.

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633226)
We have the worst QB in the division and the worst HC in the division.

Get ready to finish 3rd or 4th again.

Last year we had the worst QB in the division. It's a new year. The games haven't been played. I understand your hatred for the QB, but get real.

Titty Meat 05-23-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633223)
Last place in the AFC West, maybe, but by one ****ing game. We we're 7-9 and 8-8 took the division. Considering how many starters went down, that's not bad. I'm talking about as a GM, he's built a solid roster in a short time frame.

Again, he inherited a team that won 15 in 3 seasons, with one of the worst rosters in the entire NFL and look where we are now.

Last place is last place at the end of the days results are what matter.

Todd Haley, Matt Cassel, Tyson Jackson, and Dexter McCluster weren't part of the roster he inherited those were his own failings.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633229)
Last year we had the worst QB in the division. It's a new year. The games haven't been played. I understand your hatred for the QB, but get real.

I'm being very real.

Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning are easily better than Cassel, and in two of the three cases it's not close.

Generally speaking, the worst QB in a given division does not win that division.

All this hope is sad. It's going to result in extreme amounts of rage when this season goes south. And I'll be here to say I told you so.

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 12:48 AM

Woe is us, bitches.

Okie_Apparition 05-23-2012 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8632768)
What da ****


KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP)
When the whistle blew, Jamaal Charles and Eric Berry headed off to the corner of the far practice field while the rest of the Kansas City Chiefs began a full-squad practice.

In many ways it looked like last season, when the speedy running back and playmaking safety were recovering from torn knee ligaments. The difference this time was that Charles and Berry were dressed in shorts and jerseys and appeared on the cusp of returning.

That alone made the first in a series of organized team activities a success.

''I'm excited. Jamaal has made tremendous progress,'' quarterback Matt Cassel said. ''Every day he's been working out in the weight room and doing tremendous things already.''

Charles and Berry weren't alone in doing rehab work. Tight end Tony Moeaki is also coming back from a torn ACL. Defensive back DeQuan Menzie hurt his hamstring during a recent rookie minicamp, safety Kendrick Lewis is still working his way back from offseason shoulder surgery and linebacker Brandon Siler from a torn Achilles tendon.

That made six players expected to contribute heavily next season off to the side.

Then there was wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. The Chiefs have until July 16 to sign him to a long-term contract; otherwise he'll play next season under the franchise tag.

All the players sitting out gave others an opportunity to shine.

Jonathan Baldwin, the Chiefs' first-round pick last season, spent most of the workout running with the first team offense in place of Bowe. He made a couple of nifty grabs of throws from Cassel, one of them on a deep route down the left sideline when he was tightly covered.
''I'm going to continue to do the best I can do,'' said Baldwin, deftly sidestepping any talk about Bowe's absence. ''I don't know anything about that, so I'm just going to do the best I can.''

All the injuries at defensive back gave guys like Terrance Parks an opportunity.

He was signed as an undrafted free agent out of Florida State and found himself running with the first team defense for part of practice, something that first-round draft pick Dontari Poe couldn't pull off in his first organized workout.

Every time Parks stepped off the field, though, Berry and Lewis were right in his ear.

''They know what they're doing,'' Parks said. ''They're that way with all the rookies.''

The rookies will certainly have ample opportunity to shine during three weeks of workouts, all leading up to the Chiefs' mandatory minicamp in June. But for the time being, all eyes are on the guys over on a side practice field who are trying to work back from injuries.

Charles has said he'll be 100 percent for training camp after tearing his ACL in Week 2 last season. He was coming off a breakthrough year in which he ran for more than 1,400 yards.

Berry was coming off a Pro Bowl rookie season when he tore his ACL in Week 1, while Moeaki was coming off his own promising rookie season when he tore his ACL in his preseason finale.

Lewis was hurt in the Chiefs' regular-season finale, and although he played through the injury, it required surgery a short time later. He doesn't know when the training staff will clear him to play, but he expects it to be soon.

''Everything is going cool, according to plan, so whenever they release me,'' Lewis said. ''It's real frustrating, because I love the game. We've been way from it so long. You see guys out there, going to work, having fun, and you think, `Man, I wish I could be out there.'''

Cassel was back working with the first-team offense after his own season-ending injury.

The former Pro Bowl quarterback showed no sign of the injury to his throwing hand sustained midseason against Denver. Cassel had plenty of zip on his passes and appeared to be grasping the playbook put together by new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll.

''We've been working really hard out there,'' he said. ''We've had limited on-field work, but we've been in the film room studying our butts off. It's been good to get out there and put and kind of compete against each other and put what we've learned on the field.''

Woe Woe Woe-If only Pioli could have snagged Fisher & Brian Schottenheimer
Baldwin would be riding a unicorn & rainbows would be shooting from Davard Darling's butt

Mr_Tomahawk 05-23-2012 05:19 AM

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Reggie Bush, Peyton Hillis, Jerome Harrison all had career years under new #Chiefs OC Brian Daboll. Perhaps notable for Jamaal Charles.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-23-2012 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633233)
I'm being very real.

Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning are easily better than Cassel, and in two of the three cases it's not close.

Generally speaking, the worst QB in a given division does not win that division.

All this hope is sad. It's going to result in extreme amounts of rage when this season goes south. And I'll be here to say I told you so.

Three great QB's, a brokedick, a crybaby, and a broken man. Each bids thier crappy team to win for them...who wins and who loses?

LOCOChief 05-23-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633226)
We have the worst QB in the division and the worst HC in the division.

Get ready to finish 3rd or 4th again.

Worst HC in the division? I think you'll gladly end up eating crow for this. I don't think you would know a good coaching prospect if you saw one. How could you? If you never played you've never learned or been inspired by a coach and you wouldn't recognize those type characteristics that would separate a good coach from a bad one. It's different than evaluating players which by watching enough football you can do somewhat effectively even if you've never played. Not so with coach’s imo.

Dante84 05-23-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8633290)
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Reggie Bush, Peyton Hillis, Jerome Harrison all had career years under new #Chiefs OC Brian Daboll. Perhaps notable for Jamaal Charles.

If JC still has a career year in front of him, meaning it wasn't 2010,I will cry with joy.

If Hillis has a career year in front of him, I will be jacked up and sweating like when I left the theater after watching 300. Just looking to kill shit.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-23-2012 10:24 AM

Herm Fox, Norv Turner, and whoever the hell is coaching in Oakland. Such an edge they have ROFL

ToxSocks 05-23-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633233)
I'm being very real.

Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning are easily better than Cassel, and in two of the three cases it's not close.

Generally speaking, the worst QB in a given division does not win that division.

All this hope is sad. It's going to result in extreme amounts of rage when this season goes south. And I'll be here to say I told you so.

Yeah, and you'll be here to flip when things are going well.

We all know your schtick already, no need to act superior to anyone.

ToxSocks 05-23-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8633290)
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Reggie Bush, Peyton Hillis, Jerome Harrison all had career years under new #Chiefs OC Brian Daboll. Perhaps notable for Jamaal Charles.

Interdasting.

Easy 6 05-23-2012 10:41 AM

GC's tune will change when this team starts crushing fools.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-23-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8633750)
Interdasting.

Yep, and to have a career year Charles would have to break the all time YPC mark :eek: A 90 percent Charles will own.

BigMeatballDave 05-23-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8633747)
Yeah, and you'll be here to flip when things are going well.

We all know your schtick already, no need to act superior to anyone.

He won't be around.

He's already said he'll leave for a yr if they win 10.

Direckshun 05-23-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633226)
We have the worst QB in the division and the worst HC in the division.

Get ready to finish 3rd or 4th again.

Pull your head out of your ass.

Between this and Pioli getting fired... you're absolutely full of shit.

I'll sigbet you for a year that Pioli's our GM by the time of 2013's opening kickoff.

Quesadilla Joe 05-23-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8633731)
Herm Fox, Norv Turner, and whoever the hell is coaching in Oakland. Such an edge they have ROFL

Say what you want about John Fox, but he is one of the more respected guys in the league and has put together an excellent coaching staff the past two years.

nychief 05-23-2012 10:59 AM

is gochief still upset about his failure as a writer at WPI?


I imagine him posting all this from a ****ing library.

BigMeatballDave 05-23-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8633840)
Say what you want about John Fox, but he is one of the more respected guys in the league and has put together an excellent coaching staff the past two years.

Homer posts homer comments.

Rausch 05-23-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8633834)
Pull your head out of your ass.

Between this and Pioli getting fired... you're absolutely full of shit.

I'll sigbet you for a year that Pioli's our GM by the time of 2013's opening kickoff.

This franchise values stability at the GM position the way SB teams value stability at QB.

How many HC's did Carl go through before he got the can? How many years?...

Pasta Little Brioni 05-23-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8633840)
Say what you want about John Fox, but he is one of the more respected guys in the league and has put together an excellent coaching staff the past two years.

Herm was respected as well. Doesn't mean shit.

Quesadilla Joe 05-23-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8633928)
Herm was respected as well. Doesn't mean shit.

I actually liked Herm. He obviously is a good coach because him and his staff developed 90% of the players who are worth a shit on the Chiefs roster.

He wasn't a bad coach. He inherited an extremely old and washed up team and had to go through a youth movement and wasn't allowed to reap the rewards.

RealSNR 05-23-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8633957)
I actually liked Herm. He obviously is a good coach because him and his staff developed drafted 90% of the players who are worth a shit on the Chiefs roster.

He wasn't a bad coach. He inherited an extremely old and washed up team and had to go through a youth movement and wasn't allowed to reap the rewards.

FYP.

He was a bad coach with an extremely old and washed up team. Using the talent as an excuse is like pointing to Barry Richardson as the cause of ALL of Cassel's problems at QB

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8633957)
I actually liked Herm. He obviously is a good coach because him and his staff developed 90% of the players who are worth a shit on the Chiefs roster.

He wasn't a bad coach. He inherited an extremely old and washed up team and had to go through a youth movement and wasn't allowed to reap the rewards.

Developed 90% of our roster?? Jesus Christ, you couldn't be more wrong. Hali, Albert, Bowe, Flowers, and Charles are the only players on the team left from his regime, that's not even close to 90%. He also had to give up a PB DE to get Flowers and Charles. Let's not go appointing him to sainthood, just, yet.

Quesadilla Joe 05-23-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633984)
Developed 90% of our roster?? Jesus Christ, you couldn't be more wrong. Hali, Albert, Bowe, Flowers, and Charles are the only players on the team left from his regime, that's not even close to 90%. He also had to give up a PB DE to get Flowers and Charles. Let's not go appointing him to sainthood, just, yet.

DJ was a part of that regime and Brandon Carr should still be on this team. And I said he developed 90% of the good players on the Chiefs' roster.

The only guys who the current regime have brought in are Eric Berry and Moeaki. Berry was a no brainer, though.


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