Must be demographics. International CIA spy stuff doesn't need a daughter slowing things down.

But still I loved the scenes with Sal and the women. Great television.

I want Sal and Quinn to royally destroy the ****er that shot up the tailor's wkshp.

Yeah, she made quite a leap from rebel stoner kid to "WE NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THING HERE!!" kid.

The loop with her and Finn was interesting as to how it would have effected the rest of the pieces on the board. They closed that too early, imo (even though more fallout is sure to come from it).

I think the shit is going to get deep next episode.

So. Is Brody on the level with the CIA, or is he masterfully playing both sides here? We really don't know what was said between him and Nazir in those hours they were together....

And what's up with Quinn? Some high level spook hitman being put in an authorative position over an extremely high level op?


Right now, this and Walking Dead are the two best shows on the tube for my buck.

The Quinn situation is getting really interesting really quickly.

The scenes from next week lead me to believe that Brody is on the level with the CIA. It looks like he's burned Nazir.

Quinn is awesome.

I thought they made it pretty clear what Quinn's deal is. Like Estes said, he's there to kill terrorists (read: kill Bordy). The CIA's plan is clearly to off Brody after he's done helping them with Nazir.

Wow, just caught up tonight. Love the show. Not sure where things will go, because the writers are great at throwing twists in there to **** with your head. Interesting quote from the show, when Brody was talking to his wife on the Satelite phone - "Don't worry, it will all go back to how it was soon." And it almost did, in that Brody almost died and the family goes on living with Mike in the picture.

Still unanswered - Why did Saul fail the initial polygraph in season one? The one he walked out of. And why did he pray when the guy who was interrogated was killed with the razor? We can trust him.... right? Or is he - or anyone else - a mole?

If I were king shit of **** mountain, and had a say in how the show went, I think good direction would be to involve the VP's son.

There are a lot of angles:
- Dana likes/liked him, creating drama on the personal/family front
- Brody knows Dana likes him, and also hates VP for taking Isa, which was essentially Brody's son. Payback?
- Nazir obviously wants to cause a ruckus, and it would be sweet revenge
- The viewer has angst towards the son for killing the pedestrian, and causing Dana grief


Anyways, that was just a smattering of my thoughts.

The unresolved mole issue is certainly an interesting one, although I don't think it's ever come up in S2, has it? If Saul is a mole for anyone, it would probably be Mossad. I can't imagine an Arab terrorist ever accepting help from a Jew nor a Jew helping an Arab terrorist. In either case, I think they have shown enough of Saul in private (i.e. there was no one for him to pretend around) for any doubts to be there. Maybe I'm just being blinded by my bias here because I like Saul Berenson so much. Who knows?

I thought for sure Brody was going to get killed by Nazir's people during the last episode simply because I feel like that Carrie-Brody story arc is just too dirty at this point. The writers probably don't want to deal with that shit. They've made it pretty clear that his family doesn't want anything to do with him at this point (Jessica sleeping with Mike, Dana not wanting to talk to him on the phone and reminiscing about her life prior to Brody's return). The writers also told us through Saul that Brody makes Carrie weak. I think we're being prepped for the death of Nicholas Brody. If Nazir doesn't get him, Quinn will. If anything, it's just a good, clean way to close the Brody chapter and move on to a different conflict in S3.

The other mole reference I forgot to mention is the warning about the car chasing the "professor" to the staged house. What makes the Saul element even more interesting is that he reacted sooo strongly when the girl killed herself at the super max prison. Maybe they were closer than just a simple car ride from Mexico to Virginia?

Love me some Saul, but that is interesting. I also wonder if what's-his-ass hispanic CIA agent, who got shot at the tailor shop, has a deeper element? Or perhaps the creepy mute spy brother?

Yeah, but to have him in such a place of influence? IF that's all he was truly there for, they could just have him wait in the shadows with a sniper rifle. Something hasn't been revealed yet.....

So you're suggesting that Saul actually willingly assisted the suicide? Interesting....

I think Galvez is your best bet for a mole if one exists.

I've wondered about Saul all along. Remember when Brody passed the polygraph and said that he didn't give the guy the razor blade, back in season one? Didn't Saul fail it, ostensibly because of his problems with his wife?

It's a subtle thing, and they've never been overt with him (never any mustache-twirling onscreen...) but it's been set up if that's the direction they want to go.

True. And he did have quite the emotional outburst when he realized what she possibly had done inside that room. Very unlike Saul to react that way. Putting on a show for the guard?

Eh, I think that Saul's just an emotional guy who felt bad for her.

If he is the mole or working for Mossad (his character is jewish and was reciting a Hebrew prayer IIRC when the terrorist in S1 killed himself) it would be crazy. I think it is probably more likely that he isn't the mole and is working with Mossad but I think he's clean.

Spoiler below

FUUUUUUUUUUUUU


I was really hoping they'd just end it next year.

This show is going to be as shitty as Dexter is if it makes it 5 seasons.

how do you make 7 seasons with Brody already outed as a terrorist? Crazy. And now even Abu Nazir knows he was working against him...

I guess that's why they write and I watch.

eh, it's a good show. entertaining. but people put it up on a pedestal like sopranos or wire and it ain't even close to that level.

I enjoy it as much as I enjoyed the Wire.

The Sopranos is just one I can't get into. I like this way more.

Well, that's ****ing interesting.

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as long as she is on the show, I am watching....

Just watched the last 3 current episodes in a row....awesome.

There is no way on the face of the earth that a show of this quality is going to be predictable and boring. Maybe later, season 7 or something but not next year.

I'm sure they have a grand plan for the charectors.

Her boobies seemed more perky last year than last night.

Homeland is the best current show on television.:harumph:

BRC, you're such a charector! LMAO

I don't have a problem with that, it's up there.

Sometimes I ponder whether its THE best out there, but my behavior suggests so as it's the one show I must watch as soon as it's on. It rarely survives past Monday early morning on the DVR, if that long.

Is this shit pretty good? I know virtually nothing about this show, but my cousin loves it and he usually has pretty damn good taste in entertainment.

Yeah, it is.

Watch it from the every beginning, though.

Ok, will do! :thumb:

I would still nuzzle them and :hump:

THIS! :thumb:

It's good. I enjoy GOT and Breaking Bad more though.

Those are two I'd hold above HL, but they're not on right now.

A good ep of The Walking Dead pushes it ahead, a good ep of HL does the same.

Homeland > GoT, IMO.

Then again, I've read the ASOIAF books so I'm missing out on all the suspense the show might offer to those who haven't.

Haven't watched GOT yet.

IMO, it is 2nd behind BB and ahead of BE since the death of Jimmy.


Dexter has sucked ass for the last 2 years.

Breaking Bad > Homeland >...........giant cliff........everyone else.

Breaking Bad is fantastic because they've told a story over many years, developed the characters, and never dropped in quality. And it has an end.

Homeland has awhile to go until they reach that point. I still worry about the direction of the show, and if they can keep it up. But so far, the writers haven't disappointed.

3rd season of GoT could be better than anything ever, if they get it right.

Given how well the first two seasons have gone, I think they will.

Wtf was that ending?

Galvez=Mole

I wonder whether Estes thinks Saul is the mole?? Why are they sending him downstairs? Maybe Estes didn't appreciate Saul running a side op on Quinn?

This IMO.

Last night's episode was a ****ing goofy mess.

Abu Nazir, the equivalent of Osama Bin Laden, casually strolls into a 7-11 shortly before singlehandedly wrecking and kidnapping Carrie, who is busy listening to her shitty jazz. Dana and her mopey ass make an appearance in time for the shitty hit-and-run with Finn subplot to pop up again. Nazir then Skypes Brody, who only goes down the hall to scream Nazir's name repeatedly. Brody then does a followup to the classic "dig through a guy's room and get the object in the nick of time" by grabbing a novelty size magnifying glass and getting the serial number to Walden's pacemaker. Nazir then has the pacemaker hacked (which is weirdly the most realistic thing to happen in this episode). Carrie is let free, only to disboey orders for the 20th time, grabbing a pipe to take on Nazir. End episode.

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Yeah. Why would someone grab a pipe to go after someone with a gun? WTF, writers?

:clap::clap:

I really hope the 7 seasons rumor gets debunked. This show is starting to near the cliff with some of the stupid shit that happens each episode.

Still love Quinn and Saul though.

Yeah. They just need to stick to the Agency trying to get baddies. There are many ways to make those plot-lines intense and addicting. We don't need ****ing Dana. At all. Like ever.

I hope that black girl comes out of nowhere and kills the shit out of Dana.


Then, takes of her mask, revealing herself to be none other than...

Why did Galvez randomly show up after like a 6 episode absence right when Carrie was captured by Nazir? If he's the mole, he'd be the most obvious mole of all time.LMAO

The way the writing has been for the past several episodes, that sounds about right.

LMAO

Even though it's just a gif, I can hear his voice perfectly in my head.

That quote of his is the title of the Dexter season finale this year. I'll be interested to see why.

BTW, I loved the moment this episode when Saul was just grilling Estes' about Quinn's real purpose to the operation. Hilarious how much he's in his head.

I'm going to say the same thing about this last episode that I said about some of season 1, and I know not a lot of people will agree with this, but they make some ****ing ridiculous decisions in the writers room from time to time. The whole bit with Abu Nazir being in the country was enough of a stretch, but then to have him wreck Carrie, then take her hostage in an abandoned warehouse, then make a threatening call to Brody was just...dumb. I mean we're talking mustache-twirling villain territory here, and I expect more than that from this show. And then to have Brody basically kill the vice president in his residence. Jesus. This is a smarter show than that. There's just things they do from time to time that are impossible for me to suspend my disbelief for.

And god, did they have to bring Finn back? That's just what we needed, more angsty teen conversations for me to fast-foward through.

Fortunately the rest of the episode's so good that I don't want to tune out.

I just dont get it. Showtime doesn't need to worry about demographics and ratings like networks. Why have a 14 year old girl as a major part in an international intrigue based show? Who wants to watch a brooding 14 year old act like a whiny bitch?

It's TV and expect a little latitude with reality. But comeon this show and writers can do better than that last show.

But, overall it was a good episode.

2 more shows left...she has to cover for brodie again!

Can Nazir kill Finn and his girlfriend? I could support that.

You and me both, man.

Maybe there is something more to all of that bullshit, maybe she plays a bigger role in all of this. If not, then WTF is the point?

She was the only person Brody could relate to in season 1 and perhaps still even now. She's the reason he didn't set off the vest (the 2nd time). She's also a vehicle to humanize Brody.

She still is going to be killed by Doakes.


Just wait.

Doakes is giving Lila the Chocolate Pain...in hell.

LMAO

I'm really afraid the show jumped the shark this past week. Everything was bad about it. Nazir kidnapping an important CIA operative, Brody's task to kill the VP, return of Finn, etc. Even Lewis' acting was bad this episode.

I understand that part. But, you can accomplish that without all the face time. The sub plot of the VP son, her brooding all the time etc.

There was many WTF moments that last episode but it has a lot of well made episodes in the bank and its only its 2nd year. It's still the best show on television.

I'm not ready to call Fonzie on the show.

They hit the turbo boost button these last two episodes, as in "well, that escalated quickly".

I'll save the spoiler for those that may have not seen it yet (and judging by the lack of discussion, not many have yet).

I just don't see where they're going but I had the same issues at the end of season 1.

They've basically wrapped up the current story line and put a bow on it.

I can see where they're going, maybe, but hopefully I'm wrong about it.

The season felt like a King novel - great storytelling, then HOLY SHIT IT'S THE END WRAP IT ALL UP KTHXBI.

Body double.

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If you haven't seen the current episode, stay out. Thats the way it is in all the media center threads. anything aired is fair game.