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notorious 01-31-2011 06:44 PM

Prarie Dog Photos


JFC

LiveSteam 01-31-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7396608)
Prarie Dog Photos


JFC

Maybe you like these better :shrug:

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teedubya 01-31-2011 08:04 PM

Everything is fine, people... go back to sleep.

LMAO

Gracie Dean 01-31-2011 08:12 PM

I have a Charter Pink Lady 38

Have been to the range with it about 5 times. Going to get my CC when I get my confidence in shooting up. I can hit the target, but not like I want to do yet

CrazyPhuD 01-31-2011 09:14 PM

Ok time for some gun hotness....

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Frazod 01-31-2011 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 7396888)
Ok time for some gun hotness....

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I HAVE GOT TO GET ME ONE OF THOSE! :drool:

CrazyPhuD 01-31-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7396891)
I HAVE GOT TO GET ME ONE OF THOSE! :drool:

The gun or the girl....personally I'd take both...the girl just needs to learn to handle to recoil! :D

Frazod 01-31-2011 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 7396897)
The gun or the girl....personally I'd take both...the girl just needs to learn to handle to recoil! :D

There is no wrong answer. :D

CrazyPhuD 01-31-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7396906)
There is no wrong answer. :D

true but some may be more right than others! ;)

Actually the saiga-12 is pretty easy to get in most states I've thought about getting one, but I'm not quite enough of a fan yet. Just need to get an SBS stamp to get that gun(with the short barrel)

CrazyPhuD 01-31-2011 09:27 PM

More shotgun porn I'd be all over it except I'm kinda waiting to see if they'll bring a semi version out.

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Frazod 01-31-2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 7396914)
More shotgun porn I'd be all over it except I'm kinda waiting to see if they'll bring a semi version out.

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:rockon:

LiveSteam 01-31-2011 09:34 PM

I think I will be getting one of these
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Frazod 01-31-2011 09:41 PM

Holy shit! There's $320 well spent.

LiveSteam 01-31-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7396934)
Holy shit! There's $320 well spent.

Mall Zombie protection
This works well in the Mini 14. cheap wolf ammo works well.As for the staple, I used a 7/8th staple for a pazz-low air gun. & NO! that is not me in the vid.
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CrazyPhuD 01-31-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7396921)
I think I will be getting one of these
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cool...BUT be aware the BATF can and does change it's mind at any time. SO it could go from legal to illegal very quickly. It's nice that there are no mechanical bits, so it's less likely too but still.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...united-states/

case where the BATF changed their mind. But there were mechanical changes for this device.

Frazod 01-31-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 7396939)
cool...BUT be aware the BATF can and does change it's mind at any time. SO it could go from legal to illegal very quickly. It's nice that there are no mechanical bits, so it's less likely too but still.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...united-states/

case where the BATF changed their mind. But there were mechanical changes for this device.

The other problem would be having to explain it when every cop within ear shot hears it and assumes you've got an illegal machine gun. That would probably get old pretty fast.

Seems right for the zombie apocalypse or the absolute middle of nowhere, but probably not much else.

CrazyPhuD 01-31-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7396955)
The other problem would be having to explain it when every cop within ear shot hears it and assumes you've got an illegal machine gun. That would probably get old pretty fast.

Seems right for the zombie apocalypse or the absolute middle of nowhere, but probably not much else.

yea and frankly I'd rather not risk the felony that would remove my ability to have guns at all for a while. I'd just pay the piper for a real FA. One day I will own a 1928 and a RDIAS.

HonestChieffan 01-31-2011 09:59 PM

Im going to look into this suppressor thing. Not sure what is involved in getting the right permit in Mo but Im thinking I'll be wanting one soon.

LiveSteam 01-31-2011 10:14 PM

I wouldn't buy it either. just seen it on another gun site today. thought it was well engineered. My next purchase will be another Mohawk 600 .

Frazod 01-31-2011 10:27 PM

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I think this will be my next purchase - I'm going to dump my Beretta mini-cougar and pick up one of these.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/47925

RedNFeisty 01-31-2011 10:35 PM

I need help!!!!!
 
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My son just purchased an M16 Airsoft Rifle, from the 16-A Welll Airpistol Series. It is an all plastic gun. My issue is I can't figure out how to load the magazine, it is a spring. (leave out the girl jokes...lol) I have spent an hour looking on line and have become frustrated with the process.

I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me out. My son is driving me nuts whining about me not be able to figure it out, also. Save a kid and please help!!! :D

Frazod 01-31-2011 10:38 PM

Sorry, dear. I can break down my Ruger in about seven seconds, but I'm afraid Airsoft rifles are beyond my area of expertise. :D

rockymtnchief 01-31-2011 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7397027)
I think this will be my next purchase - I'm going to dump my Beretta mini-cougar and pick up one of these.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/47925

I haven't shot that model, but do own the PT-745 for my CCW. I'd suggest finding one to test fire, if you can.

I've always carried 1911's and switching to the 745 took some getting used to. It shoots fine, but the trigger feels mushy. The first couple times I shot it I thought I might have left the safety on. But it wasn't. It needs some work to get to my liking.

Good luck.

Frazod 01-31-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 7397050)
I haven't shot that model, but do own the PT-745 for my CCW. I'd suggest finding one to test fire, if you can.

I've always carried 1911's and switching to the 745 took some getting used to. It shoots fine, but the trigger feels mushy. The first couple times I shot it I thought I might have left the safety on. But it wasn't. It needs some work to get to my liking.

Good luck.

I won't be doing this soon - I just picked up the Ruger last week. I've got a lot of time to look around and do some more research. But I like the idea that it's double/single, has the pit rail and I really like the 12 round capacity - for .45, that's impressive.

RedNFeisty 01-31-2011 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7397042)
Sorry, dear. I can break down my Ruger in about seven seconds, but I'm afraid Airsoft rifles are beyond my area of expertise. :D

Well damn, what use are you to me then?? :D

I know this doesn't exactly fit in this thread, but I didn't want to start a thread for it.

rockymtnchief 01-31-2011 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7397055)
I won't be doing this soon - I just picked up the Ruger last week. I've got a lot of time to look around and do some more research. But I like the idea that it's double/single, has the pit rail and I really like the 12 round capacity - for .45, that's impressive.

I prefer double/single myself. And 12 rounds is impressive for a .45.

I've had good luck with a couple different Taurus firearms, but the 745 will need some tweaking for me to REALLY like it. But for the money I won't bitch.

CrazyPhuD 01-31-2011 11:09 PM

ok last gun porn of the night....because some guns are bigger than others.

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Frazod 01-31-2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 7397071)
I prefer double/single myself. And 12 rounds is impressive for a .45.

I've had good luck with a couple different Taurus firearms, but the 745 will need some tweaking for me to REALLY like it. But for the money I won't bitch.

I've got a little Taurus .38 that I've had for a long time and really like. I know their pistols weren't always the best, but apparently they've improved a great deal.

rockymtnchief 01-31-2011 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 7397082)
ok last gun porn of the night....because some guns are bigger than others.

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Thanks for reminding me that I'm underpaid. :D

rockymtnchief 01-31-2011 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7397103)
I've got a little Taurus .38 that I've had for a long time and really like. I know their pistols weren't always the best, but apparently they've improved a great deal.

I never owned one until a couple years ago. I got a steal on a PT-92 and shot the hell out of it. Never had a single FTF or FTE. Since then I've given them a little more business.

They aren't going to win you any competitions, but they seem to be reliable.

HonestChieffan 02-02-2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNFeisty (Post 7397068)
Well damn, what use are you to me then?? :D

I know this doesn't exactly fit in this thread, but I didn't want to start a thread for it.


Good on ya for getting it bought. Toy Guns may soon be banned.....crazy talk?....nooooo...read on...

http://www.advicegoddess.com/archive..._gun_cont.html

Otter 02-02-2011 09:28 AM

Anyone ever shoot a Steyr Scout Rifle? I've always wanted to but no one I know owns one and they run about $2000 a pop so it's not exactly cash I'm willing to drop for something that's going to sit in the gun cabinet 99% of the year.

Just curious if they lived up to their reputation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f/Scout-1-.gif

HonestChieffan 02-02-2011 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 7400079)
Anyone ever shoot a Steyr Scout Rifle? I've always wanted to but no one I know owns one and they run about $2000 a pop so it's not exactly cash I'm willing to drop for something that's going to sit in the gun cabinet 99% of the year.

Just curious if they lived up to their reputation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f/Scout-1-.gif

Germans make good stuff

Pants 02-02-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 7400079)
Anyone ever shoot a Steyr Scout Rifle? I've always wanted to but no one I know owns one and they run about $2000 a pop so it's not exactly cash I'm willing to drop for something that's going to sit in the gun cabinet 99% of the year.

Just curious if they lived up to their reputation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f/Scout-1-.gif

Best sniper rife in Counter-Strike. :D

I used to no-scope headhsot with that beast like a mother****er.

Pants 02-02-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 7400098)
Austrians make good stuff

FYP

Otter 02-02-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7400102)
Best sniper rife in Counter-Strike. :D

I used to no-scope headhsot with that beast like a mother****er.

Hehe, I was waiting for that. :D

HonestChieffan 02-04-2011 08:22 AM

Pretty big...Not sure Id even want to carry to the range but interesting anyway:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/p...un-lg-1-de.jpg

In the 1971 movie "Dirty Harry," actor Clint Eastwood introduced the world to the double-action Smith & Wesson Model 29 .44-cal. Magnum revolver—"the most powerful handgun in the world."

It was a crown S&W wore proudly, albeit briefly.

The rising popularity of handgun hunting for big game (spurred largely by the .44 Magnum itself) prompted the introduction of newer and significantly more powerful revolver cartridges. Many powerful enough that they had to be chambered in single-action handguns because existing double-action designs could not contain the recoil forces and pressures they produced.

Since S&W does not make single-action revolvers, and no double-action frame at its disposal could handle the new loads, S&W was effectively dethroned.

At the 2003 Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trade (SHOT) Show, the manufacturer regained its crown. And, most significantly, it did it by introducing a new massive double-action revolver that is chambered for an equally new .50-cal. cartridge.

The S&W X-frame Model 500 is a brawny handgun designed to master the most rigorous hunting fields in the world. It is not a revolver one would, or likely could, tuck into a waistband. In fact, to call it massive is an understatement.

With its 8-3/8-in. barrel, the overall length of the Model 500 is 15 in. and the empty weight is 4.5 pounds. The cylinder alone is almost 2 in. in diameter and approaches 2.25 in. in length. Thumb the cylinder open and five charge holes await. Each is 1/2 in. in diameter, and the .50-cal. cartridges they hold are almost 2 in. long. Load five of them and the total weight of the handgun climbs to 5 pounds.

You don't just casually pick up a Model 500. You have to lift it.

Fire even one of those big cartridges and you'll appreciate why the weight and mass are there.

When the .44 Magnum laid claim to being the most powerful handgun in the world, its standard load produced about 900 ft.-lb. of muzzle energy. Several new loads have since eclipsed that, but the handgun most commonly used by big game hunters is the .454 Casull, which will generate about 1900 ft.-lb.

The 500 S&W Magnum will produce almost 2600 ft.-lb. with its heaviest load, and more powerful loads may well be on the way.

If Dirty Harry felt that the .44 Magnum would make his day, the new 500 S&W Magnum would certainly make his decade. It is the largest double-action revolver available, and there is no production revolver in the world—single or double action—capable of matching, or even approaching, the level of power it produces.

Harnessing that power in a double-action revolver, however, required some departures from traditional designs.
Rethinking Double-Action Design
No frame in the S&W line was capable of containing the 500 Magnum, so the new X-frame was designed specifically for the 500's .50-cal. cartridge. It is massive. But, just making a bigger double-action revolver was not the solution. A major concern was the barrel-to-frame connection. This is traditionally done by simply screwing the barrel into the front of the frame, but this design places all firing stress at that one point. To increase strength throughout the 500's barrel assembly, S&W opted for a composite barrel/shroud system.

A stainless steel barrel tube is torqued into the frame to form a solid rear attachment point. A separate, heavy stainless steel shroud is then slipped over the barrel and braced against the forward portion of the frame. The muzzle end of the barrel bears against the forward end of the shroud, and a separate compensator/muzzle brake is then rotated into place under torque at the muzzle end of the shroud.

This arrangement compresses the shroud and places the barrel tube under tension for its entire length. In effect, the barrel and shroud act as linear springs to distribute the stress of firing across the entire barrel/shroud component instead of focusing it all at the single junction of the barrel and frame.

Maintaining precise cylinder alignment was another concern. Traditional designs utilize a front- and rear-cylinder lockup, with the forward end of the ejector rod bearing against a ball-detent fixture on the barrel to provide the front lockup. Given the power of the 500 Magnum, the potential for flex in the ejector rod had to be addressed. The solution was to dispense with that design and install a massive ball-detent lock on the frame itself, directly below the barrel forcing cone. This mates with the yoke to provide a solid front lockup directly at the front of the cylinder. Combined with the traditional rear lockup, this is the strongest cylinder alignment design possible.

While the 500 S&W Magnum answers the question of "where's the beef?" the company wisely decided to incorporate the same grip dimensions found on its much smaller K-frame handguns. Experienced handgunners regard this as one of the best handgun grips ever made.

Thus, the 500 Magnum is a big revolver that's strong where it needs to be, but is comfortable to handle. That was borne out during firing tests.

SPECIFICATIONS: 500 S&W Magnum

Caliber: .500 S&W Magnum
Barrel: 8-3/8 in.
Capacity: 5 rounds
Front Sight: Interchangeable black blade
Rear Sight: Micrometer click-adjustable black blade
Grips: Hogue rubber, energy absorbing
Weight (empty) : 72.5 ounces
Material: Stainless steel
Finish: Satin stainless
Overall length: 15 in.
Other features: Internal key lock and recoil muzzle compensator
MSRP: $987


More at the link: http://www.popularmechanics.com/outd...click=pop_more

Rooster 02-04-2011 08:37 AM

After yesterdays OC hire, I probably shouldn't talk about guns. :evil:

Radar Chief 02-04-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7397027)
I think this will be my next purchase - I'm going to dump my Beretta mini-cougar and pick up one of these.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/47925

Nice. I’d think 12 rounds of .45 ACP would make for a fat grip, which could be a good thing. I’ve always thought my Colt with the single stack mag felt a bit thin in my hand.
I also think you’ll like the .45 ACP round. There’s a reason the cops and military are still using it 100 years down the road.

LiveSteam 02-04-2011 09:17 AM

I love my 1911. Its not a high dollar hand gun. Its a GI mil spec made in the Philippines.
Same as a Rock Island. $375.00 NIB out the door at Scheels. I could not be happier

Frazod 02-04-2011 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 7405511)
Nice. I’d think 12 rounds of .45 ACP would make for a fat grip, which could be a good thing. I’ve always thought my Colt with the single stack mag felt a bit thin in my hand.
I also think you’ll like the .45 ACP round. There’s a reason the cops and military are still using it 100 years down the road.

I have a .45, I'm just don't really care for it - Beretta mini cougar with a short grip - a have an extended 8 round magazine for it, but I've pinched my hand loading it a couple times too often. And the 6 round magazine that came with sucks, and the pistol sucks with the short grip. I also want something with a rail.

I traded my Glock 26 for it about a year ago, and I may be able to get that back since the guy I traded with is one of my best friends and has several guns and doesn't seem to care. I probably got a bit hosed on that deal anyway. If I get the Glock back, I can probably sell it to the dealer and get most of the price of the Taurus in trade.

MOhillbilly 02-04-2011 09:35 AM

Still have the same 12 i had 15 years ago. It still goes BOOM!


edit- more of a BUMP!

kepp 02-04-2011 09:36 AM

And I bet right after that the booger turned around and knifed you and lowered your KDR, huh?

LiveSteam 02-04-2011 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 7405551)
And I bet right after that the booger turned around and knifed you and lowered your KDR, huh?

Its how I make cat fish bate.
& WTH does KDR stand for?

MOhillbilly 02-04-2011 09:46 AM

i clipped a blackbird off the sleeping porch with a 762 at about 10 paces. Damn near turned its feathers to dust.

kepp 02-04-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7405558)
Its how I make cat fish bate.
& WTH does KDR stand for?

Sorry, just a little Call of Duty humor - "kill/death ratio"

Radar Chief 02-04-2011 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7405544)
I have a .45, I'm just don't really care for it - Beretta mini cougar with a short grip - a have an extended 8 round magazine for it, but I've pinched my hand loading it a couple times too often. And the 6 round magazine that came with sucks, and the pistol sucks with the short grip.

I love my Colt, and I’m really in love with the .45 ACP round, perfect self defense round IMO.
I will admit though, I was watching a on Outdoor Channel and saw a guy pull off a 100 yard shot with a 9mm, looked similar to a Ruger P90. That’s something that a .45 ACP just flat won’t do. In fact once past about 50 yards you might as well pull the bullets out of the magazine and throw them, you’ll get them just about as far, but up close few handguns can surpass its knockdown power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7405544)
I also want something with a rail.

Looking to go tactical?
If you just want a laser site check out Crimson Trace. Nice little laser built right into the grips so you don’t need a special holster to carry it.

Frazod 02-04-2011 10:24 AM

I've already got a nice Veridian light/green laser for my Ruger (picture's in post 145). I need to sight that in at the range tomorrow. Not sure if I'd pick up a second one for a new .45 or just switch the laser between pistols, but I'd like to have the option.

HonestChieffan 02-04-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7405558)
Its how I make cat fish bate.
& WTH does KDR stand for?


You dont watch cat fish bate do you? Thats sick as hell.

Radar Chief 02-04-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7405636)
I've already got a nice Veridian light/green laser for my Ruger (picture's in post 145). I need to sight that in at the range tomorrow. Not sure if I'd pick up a second one for a new .45 or just switch the laser between pistols, but I'd like to have the option.

Ah, understandable.

LiveSteam 02-04-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 7405645)
You dont watch cat fish bate do you? Thats sick as hell.

you let the guts sit there all day in the sun, Then pick it up & go cat fishing.

MOhillbilly 02-04-2011 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7405664)
you let the guts sit there all day in the sun, Then pick it up & go cat fishing.

truth.

roadkill.:thumb:

WV 02-04-2011 01:59 PM

Check out this beast....

http://www.realguns.com/articles/275.htm
http://www.realguns.com/images/newprodinprocessLG.jpg

Smith & Weston's .410 Double Trouble Autoloader

New for 2011 - A RealGuns' Exclusive

By Joe D'Alessandro
Editor
| RealGuns.Com

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With Taurus, Magnum Research and Bond Arms working hard to keep up with rapidly growing concealed carry .410 shotshell revolver demand, it was only a matter of time before market savvy Smith & Weston weighed in with a signature product for 1911 type autoloader fans.

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Dubbed "Double Trouble" this unique autoloader holds eight rounds .45 Colt or 2½" or 3" .410 gauge, shot or slug ammo. The standard DT is supplied with smooth bore barrels and five interchangeable chokes. The DT may also be ordered with a rifled, or a smooth bore - rifled combination barrels.

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Manufacturer
Smith & Weston
Model
1911 DTA
Country of Origin
Grand Fenwick
Type Action
1911 Single Action
Frame & Slide
Alloy
Steel
Finish
Matte Blue - Walnut Grips
Caliber
.45 Colt - 410 Shotshell
Capacity
8+2
Barrel Length
5"
Twist
1:51
Weight
116.2 oz
Overall Length
12"
Overall Height
10"
Fixed Sights
Three Dot -
Tritium
Trigger Pull
3 lbs 16.4 oz
MSRP
$2699
Discount Retail
$1985

Included Accessories: Hard Case, 2
8 shot

magazines,
gun lock, manual, and duck call
SDF® & PAFCDS®

When asked about applications for this new burst of fire power, Warren Whippet, S&W's VP of Sales and Markup said, "We see this as a tactical weapon for those situations where
you want to lay down some serious fire, then get the hell out of there. Sort of like carpet bombing with a handgun, but without the turbine engine noise, flight suits or a large carbon foot print. The DT is a very green weapons system. Yes, very green indeed". The DT is the first member of a family of products to be built on S&W's new large Y series
autoloader frame. When asked about the "Y" designation, Patrician Pedelunker, S&W's VP of Product Names and Employee Parking Space Assignments told us, "We were eighteen hours into a marathon frame naming session. Several people had fallen asleep, one guy confessed to stealing Post-Its and we discovered a recent hire to the marketing department could speak only French...which probably explains why she kept blurting out "Où sont les toilettes?". We finally elected to name the frame based on the question everyone asked the moment they saw the prototype".

The Double Trouble® design incorporates Simultaneous Double* Fire® capability. According to G. Gas Rhonda, S&W's Director of Advanced Gas Port Logistical Engineering, "The selective single trigger can be set to fire both barrels or, alternatively, either top of bottom, or bottom and top barrels individually. With chambers loaded, hammers are positioned cocked and carried locked. In speaking with S&W personnel, there was the hint of a decocker version of the DT being released in the very near future. A Passive Aggressive Fired Cartridge Detection System® took a little getting use to as it doesn't display any obvious signs of status or condition. The system will eject a fired cartridge, or a misfiring cartridge, however, it also can silently and arbitrarily undermine the gun's cartridge extraction system and leave the cartridge in place... or pack up and take the kids and move in with its mother while the DT is at work... trying to make a living for its family. The important thing is that all of the gun's systems have learned to get along harmoniously... for the
sake of the chil...parts. Preproduction, but still pretty slick...We thought the dual ejection port was a stroke of genius. When asked about this feature,*
C. Gas Rhonda, Smith and Weston's VP of Gas Logistics Management said, "We fired 100 rounds with the first prototype and noticed ejection of the lower barrel caused an accelerated unlock which left an impression on some of our testers... or as is technically referred to, an unanticipated and joyless ophryonic metallurgical intersection. We were further concerned that, and I apologize for the technical jargon, the original system would lead to the whole gun explodacatin'. We received lots of double takes at the range during our test firing session. In some ways the Double Trouble is very much a traditional 1911, in others, not so much. The three comments heard the most were, "Why the heck does it have two hammers?", "Why the heck does it have two ports?" and "Are you guys almost finished? We've been waiting for a bench for four hours?" We shot the Double Trouble with fixed sights, adjustable sights, laser sights, a scope and absolutely none of the systems resulted in sore eyes. Shooting 500 grain gas checked cast bullets, .45 Colt accuracy was
exceptional with groups consistently under an inch at three hundred yards. Fifty yard yammer jammers were easy to hit but swinging bobcats at one hundred yards suggested just a touch of dominant eye cross parallax ventilation. Moving to the skeet range and 3" ¾ oz loads, flying vertical birdies were a snap, oscillating rollers were a challenge... which is almost always the case, but spinning flams is where the DT really shined where we were able to shoot a perfect 106¼. Trap shooting, however, had us hoping there was a pump action DT in S&W's future as Cheney shots are near impossible with an autoloader. All and all, we burned through 122,000 rounds of 410 gauge bird shot, slugs, 00 buck and hot loaded .45 Colt ammo. There was no hint of failure or hesitation and the gun maintained a high level of performance throughout. I only wish the gun had been supplied with an extra magazine as reloading became somewhat tedious. The DT magazine, show next to a conventional .45 ACP, reflects the proportions of the gun. Unable to locate an appropriate holster for the hunting segment of this evaluation we found that a BABYBJÖRN, and a little duct tape, worked perfectly with no signs of chafing. With modified chokes in place, the DT was fierce for use on grouse and Grand Banks Caiman. With full chokes in place, Canadian geese were easily within reach. Switching over to .45 Colt and rifled barrels, we were able to drop red tail, black tail, white tail, and high tailed deer competently.* Next month we are scheduled to carry the DT to Namibia where we will be hunting loxodonta africana, syncerus caffer, delphinus, and assorted peromyscus. Great sport and we'll report!
Preliminary conclusions...We believe the Double Trouble® is spiffy, jiffy perhaps even nifty. A little larger than a full size 1911, the potential it brings more than makes up for its size.
We believe the time has come for a large frame autoloading shot pistol. If it makes sense to carry a two pound six inch long derringer or a five pound foot long revolver for personal protection, who could argue with the need for an autoloader version of the same. The DT delivers greater capacity, rapid fire and reload capability and a presence that shouts, "Don't look down there, look over here".
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Radar Chief 02-04-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7406191)
Check out this beast....

http://www.realguns.com/articles/275.htm
http://www.realguns.com/images/newprodinprocessLG.jpg

Smith & Weston's .410 Double Trouble Autoloader
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:spock:ROFL

HonestChieffan 02-04-2011 03:14 PM

Weston.....funny stuff

notorious 02-04-2011 03:18 PM

I might lean towards the Judge if I had to choose. :D

LiveSteam 02-04-2011 03:53 PM

http://cz-usa.com/assets/product-ima...37x200_q85.png

Im really leaning towards this CZ. They make a flush 3 round box mag for it. I love the wood.

http://cz-usa.com/assets/user-submit...pscale_q85.png

300 yard target

WV 02-04-2011 08:40 PM

Yeah there's no way I could even hold that S&W 410 Auto. I have relatively small hands and a 45 double stack is too big let alone that bohemoth.

notorious 02-04-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 7406517)
http://cz-usa.com/assets/product-ima...37x200_q85.png

Im really leaning towards this CZ. They make a flush 3 round box mag for it. I love the wood.

http://cz-usa.com/assets/user-submit...pscale_q85.png

300 yard target

That is a unique Walnut Stock. It has a cream grain to it that reminds me of Bellawood Walnut Hardwood floors.

Beautiful.

Frazod 02-04-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 7407117)
Yeah there's no way I could even hold that S&W 410 Auto. I have relatively small hands and a 45 double stack is too big let alone that bohemoth.

Who the hell could - Andre the Giant? Jaws from the 007 movies? Good God. That thing is so ridiculous looking at first I thought it was a joke picture.

notorious 02-04-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7407139)
Who the hell could - Andre the Giant? Jaws from the 007 movies? Good God. That thing is so ridiculous looking at first I thought it was a joke picture.

It is a joke.....right?

Frazod 02-04-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7407141)
It is a joke.....right?

Looks like a real link to me.

notorious 02-04-2011 09:01 PM

"We believe the Double Trouble® is spiffy, jiffy perhaps even nifty. A little larger than a full size 1911, the potential it brings more than makes up for its size."


A little larger then a full size 1911......... :D

HonestChieffan 02-04-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7407144)
Looks like a real link to me.


major spoof

trndobrd 02-04-2011 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7405636)
I've already got a nice Veridian light/green laser for my Ruger (picture's in post 145). I need to sight that in at the range tomorrow. Not sure if I'd pick up a second one for a new .45 or just switch the laser between pistols, but I'd like to have the option.


I look forward to hearing your feedback on the Veridian. They seem pretty slick.

Frazod 02-04-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 7407374)
I look forward to hearing your feedback on the Veridian. They seem pretty slick.

I plan on going to the range tomorrow. Should be fun. :bang:

58-4ever 02-05-2011 06:35 PM

I'm looking for a gun that is fun to shoot at the range and offers good home protection.

I was thinking about purchasing this one:

http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397877309.html

The only down side I see is the extra safety on the grip. It just seems unnecessary. Thoughts?

Dunit35 02-05-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 7408991)
I'm looking for a gun that is fun to shoot at the range and offers good home protection.

I was thinking about purchasing this one:

http://www.impactguns.com/store/706397877309.html

The only down side I see is the extra safety on the grip. It just seems unnecessary. Thoughts?

Nothing wrong with it.

My buddy uses one when he's on duty.

Frazod 02-05-2011 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7407389)
I plan on going to the range tomorrow. Should be fun. :bang:

Fun day at the range. The Veridian is awesome - pretty straight forward - point and shoot. Hole goes where the green dot is.

But I must say, I LOVE my new Ruger. Love it. Ran a couple of hundred rounds through it this afternoon. Very accurate, fun to shoot, light recoil. Magazines easy to load (actually easier to load manually than with the loader thing that came with it). The $10 rubber slip-on grip I added took care of all the grip issues - feels great in my hand. Trigger does have a bit of play, but once I got used to it it was no big deal. Easy to stage shots. Breaks down quickly and easily.

For $300 (price at Buds and what I paid locally), you can't go wrong with this bad boy, IMO. :thumb:

BigRedChief 02-05-2011 06:56 PM

I never owned a gun and never felt unsafe. But, thats just me, maybe...

Frazod 02-05-2011 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409038)
I never owned a gun and never felt unsafe. But, thats just me, maybe...

There's a first time for everything.

And a last time for everything.

notorious 02-05-2011 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409038)
I never owned a gun and never felt unsafe. But, thats just me, maybe...

Good for you. I feel safe without my guns, too.



I want to be fully prepared and a dead accurate shot if it ever comes to survival, though. Plus shooting is a lot of fun.

LiveSteam 02-05-2011 06:59 PM

I didnt get to go to the range. Fricken place had an all day waiting list. HATE THAT.
Instead I looked at pics all day & watched Kan kick our asses for the last time.
my favorite pic of the day. Out of the 1000s I looked at. Hope you guys like it.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._8357048_n.jpg


All the Iowa class, ladies lined up.

LiveSteam 02-05-2011 07:08 PM

CCI is running a lil promotion. By any 2 boxes of CCi and get a free spin target.
My lil girl will love shooting this with her Henry 22
http://www.cci-ammunition.com/downlo...lineCoupon.pdf

Dunit35 02-05-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409034)
Fun day at the range. The Veridian is awesome - pretty straight forward - point and shoot. Hole goes where the green dot is.

But I must say, I LOVE my new Ruger. Love it. Ran a couple of hundred rounds through it this afternoon. Very accurate, fun to shoot, light recoil. Magazines easy to load (actually easier to load manually than with the loader thing that came with it). The $10 rubber slip-on grip I added took care of all the grip issues - feels great in my hand. Trigger does have a bit of play, but once I got used to it it was no big deal. Easy to stage shots. Breaks down quickly and easily.

For $300 (price at Buds and what I paid locally), you can't go wrong with this bad boy, IMO. :thumb:

Good deal. Told you it'd feel good.

BigRedChief 02-05-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7409040)
There's a first time for everything.

And a last time for everything.

yeah, I know. Not an anti-gun person or anything like that,J just never felt the need to buy one. I traveled all the world and went to some really bad parts of the world without a gun. So living in suburbia I never felt the need for a gun.

notorious 02-05-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409095)
yeah, I know. Not an anti-gun person or anything like that,J just never felt the need to buy one. I traveled all the world and went to some really bad parts of the world without a gun. So living in suburbia I never felt the need for a gun.

I have always believed that when a person carries a gun they are inviting all of the attention to themselves in the event of something bad occuring.

I worked as a security guard in a bank for a couple years while going to flight school. We could carry if we wanted to, but I declined.

By carrying I would be killed in the event of a robbery. They can have the money, lives are more important.


Inside my house and car are completely different, though........

Frazod 02-05-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409095)
yeah, I know. Not an anti-gun person or anything like that,J just never felt the need to buy one. I traveled all the world and went to some really bad parts of the world without a gun. So living in suburbia I never felt the need for a gun.

I was raised around guns all my life, so having one is as natural to me as breathing. I understand most people aren't like that. I've also lived in places where nobody was safe. Again, if you haven't, good for you.

The thing to remember is, everything is wonderful where you live, until that one moment that it isn't. At that point, nothing that came before will matter. It's just you and whatever happens next.

The guy who would break into your house, steal your possessions and inflict horrendous bodily harm on you and your family that you may or may not recover from earnestly hopes you never change your mind. Personally, I'd prefer to meet that person on my terms, not his.

HonestChieffan 02-05-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7409095)
yeah, I know. Not an anti-gun person or anything like that,J just never felt the need to buy one. I traveled all the world and went to some really bad parts of the world without a gun. So living in suburbia I never felt the need for a gun.

I never "needed" a basketball but I love shootin hoops.

jbwm89 02-05-2011 07:51 PM

looking at getting a handgun for my graduation gift. Buddy of mine that works at a gunshop recommended a Glock 19 or a Ruger p95, what does everyone think?


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