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Fish 04-27-2023 10:56 PM

He flushed out screens very well this season too. Like really hammered on any screen passes. Which makes me think he's a reasonably smart defender.

Dante84 04-27-2023 10:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Felix Anudike-Uzomah: &quot;They hosted me three times. I thought, &#39;I’m destined to go to the Chiefs.&#39; Frank Clark is one of my favorite pass rushers. This is all I dreamed of. It’s crazy how I’m living in the moment.&quot;</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1651812404131516417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

philfree 04-27-2023 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16922063)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The moment Clark Hunt announced his team&#39;s selection of Felix Anudike-Uzomah. You simply cannot script it any better. KC native, Kansas State Wildcat and now a Kansas City Chief. The Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year is going home.<a href="https://twitter.com/fanudike?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fanudike</a><a href="https://twitter.com/KStateFB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KStateFB</a><a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a><br>Video: ABC <a href="https://t.co/yxNFMeVQqP">pic.twitter.com/yxNFMeVQqP</a></p>&mdash; Glenn Kinley (@glenn_kinley) <a href="https://twitter.com/glenn_kinley/status/1651801071906324480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It's like itwas destiny.

I bet he leaves his entire soul on that field for us every single play. **** it, gimmie a dog like him on my team the rest will fall into place.

Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year? I like that.

Titty Meat 04-27-2023 11:00 PM

Said he went and saw the big crowd before the draft and nobody knew who he was LMAO

philfree 04-27-2023 11:01 PM

This is like a lot of Veach picks. I think it's okay but then the more I look the better it gets.

Titty Meat 04-27-2023 11:01 PM

I hope you all get to listen to his interview that was awesome

Coach 04-27-2023 11:03 PM

I would also consider the fact that Kansas State ran a 3-3-5 defense (or a 3-man front).

To put up those type of numbers while on that 3-man front (which invites more double teams, mainly the T & G), and winning the Big XII DPOY, kind of explains it.

To put it in another way, when he gets into the 4-man front in Spags scheme, he won't have that double team issue because they also have to account for Chris Jones in the interior.

Fish 04-27-2023 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16922094)
I hope you all get to listen to his interview that was awesome

Link bitch?

ThyKingdomCome15 04-27-2023 11:07 PM

Good pick, good player. I'm just wondering who they were trading up for.

Megatron96 04-27-2023 11:10 PM

Probably a solid player. Not the next Reggie White, but a solid all-arounder.

Sofa King 04-27-2023 11:12 PM

I feel like this is totally underwhelming for a pick. Would they reach for a player in a draft in Kansas City because the player was from Kansas State? Feels like they did.

But I had my sights set on the previous 4-5 players that were literally picked in a row + Mayer who we passed.

poolboy 04-27-2023 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16922094)
I hope you all get to listen to his interview that was awesome

link?

Fish 04-27-2023 11:12 PM

For pick 31, I'm pretty happy with this regardless of being a K-State homer... Guy has very high motor, and I think he can potentially put on another 10-20lbs and be a beast.

Kiimo 04-27-2023 11:13 PM

I am not gonna hide my disappointment at the lack of Hyatt, but I am open to this guy being a big piece of the puzzle

staylor26 04-27-2023 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16922107)
I feel like this is totally underwhelming for a pick. Would they reach for a player in a draft in Kansas City because the player was from Kansas State? Feels like they did.

But I had my sights set on the previous 4-5 players that were literally picked in a row + Mayer who we passed.

:facepalm:

Lol no.

Sofa King 04-27-2023 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16922111)
:facepalm:

Lol no.

I get it, you're a K State fan so you're going to disagree. But I think other's would agree.

Pretty meh pick.

chiefforlife 04-27-2023 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16922107)
I feel like this is totally underwhelming for a pick. Would they reach for a player in a draft in Kansas City because the player was from Kansas State? Feels like they did.

But I had my sights set on the previous 4-5 players that were literally picked in a row + Mayer who we passed.

I think thats my issue as well.

Im good with FAU and he was realistically one of the picks we expected, its just thinking for a little bit that Murphy, Nolan Smith, Mazi Smith, Anton Harrison, Bresee were all there. Hell at pick 19 it looked like a different draft for us, it was falling perfectly.

Hearing Veach say that they had 16-18 first rounders and FAU was one of them, makes me feel much better. They really liked him and thats great to hear.

Kiimo 04-27-2023 11:20 PM

I did not know staylor was a KSU fan, but I trust his opinion on players

staylor26 04-27-2023 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16922112)
I get it, you're a K State fan so you're going to disagree. But I think other's would agree.

Pretty meh pick.

No, I'm not a K State fan, but I did call this ****ing pick because it's not at all surprising. The Chiefs didn't draft this guy because he's from K State dude. That's reeruned.

staylor26 04-27-2023 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16922114)
I did not know staylor was a KSU fan, but I trust his opinion on players

I'm not, but if you check out my "Call Your Shot" thread, I could see this pick coming from miles away.

NJChiefsFan 04-27-2023 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16922075)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Felix Anudike-Uzomah said he went to his first Chiefs game at 7 years old. &quot;Back in the Matt Cassel days&quot;</p>&mdash; Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1651811683113877505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Any player that knows the "Matt Cassel" days like the rest of us is alright in my book.

carcosa 04-27-2023 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16922094)
I hope you all get to listen to his interview that was awesome

LINK???

Kiimo 04-27-2023 11:22 PM

Also, as a KU fan, I was kind of wishy-washy about Nick Bolton and I won’t make that mistake again

Raiderhater 04-27-2023 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16922075)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Felix Anudike-Uzomah said he went to his first Chiefs game at 7 years old. &quot;Back in the Matt Cassel days&quot;</p>&mdash; Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1651811683113877505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A Matt Cassel game at 7 years old…

Clearly young and naive enough not to be ruined by the experience. Thank God.

Sofa King 04-27-2023 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16922113)
I think thats my issue as well.

Im good with FAU and he was realistically one of the picks we expected, its just thinking for a little bit that Murphy, Nolan Smith, Mazi Smith, Anton Harrison, Bresee were all there. Hell at pick 19 it looked like a different draft for us, it was falling perfectly.

Hearing Veach say that they had 16-18 first rounders and FAU was one of them, makes me feel much better. They really liked him and thats great to hear.

Why WOULDNT he say that though. Of course he's going to say that. But to me that really means there was only 15-17 first rounders on his board. I think they went emotional with this pick.

We'll see. Hopefully he's an 7-10 sack guy for many years. Hopefully our 2nd and 3rd round picks are steals to relax the feeling of this one.

Kiimo 04-27-2023 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16922118)
I'm not, but if you check out my "Call Your Shot" thread, I could see this pick coming from miles away.

I completely admit that I’m a sucker for skill positions but are you OK with this guy over Hyatt?

Dunerdr 04-27-2023 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16922112)
I get it, you're a K State fan so you're going to disagree. But I think other's would agree.

Pretty meh pick.

Go sleep on it then watch his tape. Doesn’t feel like a reach at all. What did you have your heart set on? Ps I’m an Oklahoma state fan. He put in work on them, I’m no kstste homer.

staylor26 04-27-2023 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16922124)
I completely admit that I’m a sucker for skill positions but are you OK with this guy over Hyatt?

Yes, absolutely.

The difference in Hyatt and the round 2 WRs isn't all that significant, and they could still trade up for him.

Mingo's my guy though.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-27-2023 11:30 PM

LET’S ****ING GO! LEE’S SUMMIT IN THE MOTHER-****ING HOUSE!!

Fish 04-27-2023 11:32 PM

Watch the videos in the OP. He totally bullies normal college linemen. He's really strong and has the frame to carry more with an NFL program. This was the last pick of the first round, so temper expectations. But, this could turn out to be a good pick....

Kiimo 04-27-2023 11:32 PM

See my thing is is that I feel like Hyatt could be the best wide receiver in the draft. If it’s true that his 40 time was compromised I mean. But if Veach doesn’t feel the same? Well, I’m just basically shooting from the hip as a fan and I trust the scouts.

Raiderhater 04-27-2023 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16922107)
I feel like this is totally underwhelming for a pick. Would they reach for a player in a draft in Kansas City because the player was from Kansas State? Feels like they did.

But I had my sights set on the previous 4-5 players that were literally picked in a row + Mayer who we passed.

He was projected to go early to possibly mid-second round, at 31 it’s not a reach. We may trade up tomorrow for someone projected in the same range, flip them and you have the same results. Trading up in the first is more costly, and even at that was pursued but the offers were turned down. There is no way it was a reach.

As to picking him for his KSU ties, I’d think his KC metro ties would likely weigh more heavily, if that was even part of the consideration.

carcosa 04-27-2023 11:32 PM

My cousin saw Felix at the Lee's Summit Best Buy today

dlphg9 04-27-2023 11:37 PM

I actually really like this pick. It's pretty ****ing cool for him to play for the team he grew up loving. It's literally every kid that plays football's dream. Should give him additional motivation.

Wish he would have been invited to the draft. Kinda ****ed they didn't invite the local kid that had a 1st round grade.

Sofa King 04-27-2023 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16922121)
Also, as a KU fan, I was kind of wishy-washy about Nick Bolton and I won’t make that mistake again

Your whole statement tells me you’d be wishy washy about this pick if not for the success of a single other player.

And you’re a KU fan.

Exactly my point.

Total MEH pick but thankfully at the correct position. Hopefully we somehow find a steal in the second.

Rainbarrel 04-27-2023 11:44 PM

He and Drew Lock worked at Whataburger together

dlphg9 04-27-2023 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16922146)
Your whole statement tells me you’d be wishy washy about this pick if not for the success of a single other player.

And you’re a KU fan.

Exactly my point.

Total MEH pick but thankfully at the correct position. Hopefully we somehow find a steal in the second.

Holy ****, shut up you whiney bitch. I can't wait for someone to pull up you're stupid ass posts in this thread in a couple of years to show how much of a dipshit you were and you'll be like well the draft is never a sure thing and I'm glad I was wrong.

Bump 04-27-2023 11:50 PM

if you don't think every player the Kansas City Chiefs (my favorite team) drafts is going to be an all-pro, THEN **** YOU

Chieftain 04-27-2023 11:54 PM

Kollman and Snyder that run Bootleg Football praised the pick. Snyder in particular is a big fan of this kid and said he fits the defense like a glove.

Dante84 04-27-2023 11:56 PM

These guys had the FAU pick as the 9th best pick of the night

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The heroes graded every pick on a 1-10 scale during our first-round livestream, here are the final results...<br><br>And check out the watch party if you missed it: <a href="https://t.co/YfwYqXzEKp">https://t.co/YfwYqXzEKp</a> <a href="https://t.co/OOP83sp1mF">pic.twitter.com/OOP83sp1mF</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1651825860641693696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kccrow 04-28-2023 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16922165)
These guys had the FAU pick as the 9th best pick of the night

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The heroes graded every pick on a 1-10 scale during our first-round livestream, here are the final results...<br><br>And check out the watch party if you missed it: <a href="https://t.co/YfwYqXzEKp">https://t.co/YfwYqXzEKp</a> <a href="https://t.co/OOP83sp1mF">pic.twitter.com/OOP83sp1mF</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1651825860641693696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How the **** do the not have the Patriots pick of Gonzalez at 17 as a 10.0? That was the steal of the first round.

staylor26 04-28-2023 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16922168)
How the **** do the not have the Patriots pick of Gonzalez at 17 as a 10.0? That was the steal of the first round.

Agreed. Best Pats draft pick in a very long time.

Kiimo 04-28-2023 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16922146)
Your whole statement tells me you’d be wishy washy about this pick if not for the success of a single other player.

And you’re a KU fan.

Exactly my point.

Total MEH pick but thankfully at the correct position. Hopefully we somehow find a steal in the second.

I’ve been drinking, but I’m having a hard time understanding what your point is

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2023 12:23 AM

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ThyKingdomCome15 04-28-2023 12:54 AM

Veach mentioned several times this kid just turned 21, had a lot or production in the Big 12 at 19 and 20 years old. There's a huge opportunity for him to grow as a player just based on him gaining his man strength.

staylor26 04-28-2023 12:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Felix Anudike-Uzomah is 21 years old. <br><br>At age 19, he had 14.5 TFLs and 11 sacks for K-State.<br><br>Age matters in the draft.</p>&mdash; Nick Schwerdt (@nick_schwerdt) <a href="https://twitter.com/nick_schwerdt/status/1651811770980347904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Crazy to think about the season he had in 2022 at ****ing 19 years old. Big 12 DPOY.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-28-2023 12:59 AM

Veach is a wizard. I never placed much thought into factoring the age of a player at the time they were producing in college.

My only question is whether they were trying to trade up for him or someone else.

I still really like Adebawore but he doesn't have the band and moves this kid has. Freak athlete though. Someone is going to get a really good player, won't be us.

Best22 04-28-2023 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16922113)
I think thats my issue as well.

Im good with FAU and he was realistically one of the picks we expected, its just thinking for a little bit that Murphy, Nolan Smith, Mazi Smith, Anton Harrison, Bresee were all there. Hell at pick 19 it looked like a different draft for us, it was falling perfectly.

Hearing Veach say that they had 16-18 first rounders and FAU was one of them, makes me feel much better. They really liked him and thats great to hear.

Not everyone is going to be willing to trade up. The Bengals probably didn’t want to trade their pick with us.

Bob Dole 04-28-2023 02:20 AM

This pick just points out what I said last week about all the mock draft ridiculousness. Tens of thousands of hours spent on that shit, and did anyone get this one correct? I've been listening to the self-proclaimed experts for weeks and never heard this kid's name once.

TwistedChief 04-28-2023 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 16922189)
This pick just points out what I said last week about all the mock draft ridiculousness. Tens of thousands of hours spent on that shit, and did anyone get this one correct? I've been listening to the self-proclaimed experts for weeks and never heard this kid's name once.

Some people definitely mocked him to the Chiefs. This isn’t some shock pick.

dlphg9 04-28-2023 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 16922189)
This pick just points out what I said last week about all the mock draft ridiculousness. Tens of thousands of hours spent on that shit, and did anyone get this one correct? I've been listening to the self-proclaimed experts for weeks and never heard this kid's name once.

You probably did, but you're just stupid and forgot. I've heard of him multiple times.

Bob Dole 04-28-2023 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16922190)
Some people definitely mocked him to the Chiefs. This isn’t some shock pick.

Links?

ChiefsFanatic 04-28-2023 03:36 AM

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Hey, does anyone know why he didn't run the 40 at the combine or at his pro day?

Does he have a lingering injury?

Also, I am NOT saying that FAU is going to be TJ Watt, but when I was watching the highlights in the OP, I kept thinking that they looked similar to each other. So, I looked up their NFL Prospect profiles, and yeah, they have some similarities.

T-post Tom 04-28-2023 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16922197)
Hey, does anyone know why he didn't run the 40 at the combine or at his pro day?

Does he have a lingering injury?

Also, I am NOT saying that FAU is going to be TJ Watt, but when I was watching the highlights in the OP, I kept thinking that they looked similar to each other. So, I looked up their NFL Prospect profiles, and yeah, they have some similarities.

Nice!

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2023 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16922197)
Hey, does anyone know why he didn't run the 40 at the combine or at his pro day?

Does he have a lingering injury?


https://www.profootballnetwork.com/p...tate-pro-days/

Quote:

There were rumors Anudike-Uzomah may not be at full health. He was excused from testing at the Combine due to a right foot injury, and there was chatter at the pro day that he was struggling with a groin issue, though I’ve not confirmed that is the exact injury.

ChiefsFanatic 04-28-2023 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16922205)

Thanks. After I posted the question, I remembered that I have Google.

Yes, I am high.

scho63 04-28-2023 04:29 AM

I'm guessing this pick guarantees another Super Bowl.

I'm good.

HonestChieffan 04-28-2023 04:55 AM

I like this POS

Red Dawg 04-28-2023 05:51 AM

Good pick. The LOS is pretty damn important.

SithCeNtZ 04-28-2023 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16922113)
I think thats my issue as well.

Im good with FAU and he was realistically one of the picks we expected, its just thinking for a little bit that Murphy, Nolan Smith, Mazi Smith, Anton Harrison, Bresee were all there. Hell at pick 19 it looked like a different draft for us, it was falling perfectly.

Hearing Veach say that they had 16-18 first rounders and FAU was one of them, makes me feel much better. They really liked him and thats great to hear.

We see this on this board every time a local kid from KU/MU/KSU might be or is drafted by the Chiefs and it usually has no place in reality. I remember the board when Talib was projected as a first round pick and everyone was just like "KU sucks and had a lucky season Talib sucks huge bust". And then he was taken in the first round and had a very nice career with 2 all pro teams. It's almost like scouts from Seattle or New York or Mel Kiper don't have bias about college teams because they cheer for someone else.

Here's the facts: ESPN ranked Manzi, Bresee, and Harrison all lower than FAU. We tried to trade up and who knows maybe they would have taken Murphy if they did. Regardless, ESPN and PFF had him at 32nd best player. SI had him at 39. He was taken well within the range of variance where he was ranked. People need to stop with the "Chiefs are homers and wanted to stay at 31 so they could have a big celebration and draft a home town guy who was a huge reach for feels", as if fans celebrating two super bowls in 4 years with the greatest QB of all time really need to see another local player on the team before they buy a ticket to arrowhead.

Chris Meck 04-28-2023 06:11 AM

This is a good, solid, B+ type pick, and when you pick last, that's about all you can realistically expect.

Super productive player at a position of need (and a premium salary position, so you're cost controlled with him and George for the next several years), and still just 21. So that means he was putting up numbers at 19 and 20 against future NFL players.

The pass rush looks really, really good right now, and that's a great thing. If you're going young (and as most of you have been harping UNPROVEN) at WR, then having an excellent defense is a hell of a cushion.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2023 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16922113)
I think thats my issue as well.

Im good with FAU and he was realistically one of the picks we expected, its just thinking for a little bit that Murphy, Nolan Smith, Mazi Smith, Anton Harrison, Bresee were all there. Hell at pick 19 it looked like a different draft for us, it was falling perfectly.

Hearing Veach say that they had 16-18 first rounders and FAU was one of them, makes me feel much better. They really liked him and thats great to hear.

Do you believe him?

I don't think I do. That sounds like standard draft day puffery.

Dante84 04-28-2023 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16922254)
Do you believe him?

I don't think I do. That sounds like standard draft day puffery.

He said they use a model that excludes QB’s and couple other (unmentioned) variables.

So they use BPA + Need for their board, which is smart.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2023 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16921979)
Thanks man.

I thought one of those guys that went in the last half of the draft were going to fall to us, but FAU was my worst case scenario pick (in terms of how the board falls).

Bascially, there are quite a few guys I would've taken had they fallen, but he was my BPA (outside of Porter Jr.)

It's funny - you're the Felix Guy and I'll end up being seen as the anti-felix guy but I'll bet you and I see him almost identically as a player.

I think you see a little more burst than I do but still wouldn't consider him a 'twitchy' player. I think we both agree that he plays stronger than his size but he's not Foskey or White in terms of play strength.

He's a fairly chalky player. I don't think we got any sort of amazing value (I don't think you do either) but I think we took a solid guy who wouldn't have been available past 40 or so at a position where we want to keep layering talent.

It's...fine. B- outcome after it looked like A/A+ was on the table an hour previous to the the pick. It's neither brilliant nor stupid. It was a little more need based than I'd have expected as it's hard for me to believe that he graded higher in a vacuum than Porter or Branch, but they also clearly like him as a talent as they had him ahead of Foskey and White.

Ultimately I don't see much to be irritated or amazed by. It's just a fairly standard pick and ultimately development will determine how it ends up.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2023 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16922262)
He said they use a model that excludes QB’s and couple other (unmentioned) variables.

So they use BPA + Need for their board, which is smart.

I think he also said 'right there with those guys' before talking about how everyone gets really bunched up in that late 1st/early 2nd area.

I don't get the impression they were looking to trade up for him is ultimately my conclusion. They lost quite a few guess they liked in that 6-8 pick bloodbath through the 20s, IMO.

RunKC 04-28-2023 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16922267)
I think he also said 'right there with those guys' before talking about how everyone gets really bunched up in that late 1st/early 2nd area.

I don't get the impression they were looking to trade up for him is ultimately my conclusion. They lost quite a few guess they liked in that 6-8 pick bloodbath through the 20s, IMO.

If you believe reports (and again this could be Cowboys smoke) the Chiefs called Dallas to trade up, but it was apparently for Mazi Smith who Dallas wanted.

I think the other teams before Dallas didn’t want to fall back to 31 bc their boards were getting dry.

I’m fine with Felix. I actually like him more than I did Karlaftis. Think his ceiling is higher than George’s

O.city 04-28-2023 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16922266)
It's funny - you're the Felix Guy and I'll end up being seen as the anti-felix guy but I'll bet you and I see him almost identically as a player.

I think you see a little more burst than I do but still wouldn't consider him a 'twitchy' player. I think we both agree that he plays stronger than his size but he's not Foskey or White in terms of play strength.

He's a fairly chalky player. I don't think we got any sort of amazing value (I don't think you do either) but I think we took a solid guy who wouldn't have been available past 40 or so at a position where we want to keep layering talent.

It's...fine. B- outcome after it looked like A/A+ was on the table an hour previous to the the pick. It's neither brilliant nor stupid. It was a little more need based than I'd have expected as it's hard for me to believe that he graded higher in a vacuum than Porter or Branch, but they also clearly like him as a talent as they had him ahead of Foskey and White.

Ultimately I don't see much to be irritated or amazed by. It's just a fairly standard pick and ultimately development will determine how it ends up.

I think the KSU guys would have you believe he's a similar type player to what Nick Bolton was at Mizzou.

Christian & Barry 04-28-2023 07:04 AM

If he had less syllables in his name and played in the SEC, he would have been a top 10 pick. He can play.

BigRedChief 04-28-2023 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16922205)

So this is why he dropped?

Couch-Potato 04-28-2023 07:11 AM

Stoked for Felix getting drafted to his favorite team, that's a cool story.

Bl00dyBizkitz 04-28-2023 07:15 AM

Sounds like a solid starter. As long as that's what we get, this is a solid pick.

mlyonsd 04-28-2023 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16922286)
Stoked for Felix getting drafted to his favorite team, that's a cool story.

He's living my dream from 1969.

Chargem 04-28-2023 07:19 AM

Fine with this, feels like a solid pick at a premium position. I did feel like edge/DE wasn't particularly likely but the way the board fell, the pick makes a lot of sense.

BigRedChief 04-28-2023 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 16922292)
He's living my dream from 1969.

It's not too late. Start drinking grass juice or something.

Skyy God 04-28-2023 07:31 AM

For the record, good pick.

I told my buddy and his gf that is was likely the KSU DE from about pick 25.

Shields68 04-28-2023 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16922272)
If you believe reports (and again this could be Cowboys smoke) the Chiefs called Dallas to trade up, but it was apparently for Mazi Smith who Dallas wanted.

I think the other teams before Dallas didn’t want to fall back to 31 bc their boards were getting dry.

I’m fine with Felix. I actually like him more than I did Karlaftis. Think his ceiling is higher than George’s

Makes sense. Clear there was going to be a run on DLine. Better to have your choice than to be at the end of the run.

Some speculation Dallas was looking at a TE. If that was the case it would have been a win win. Nothing hurt to mke the call

emaw1979 04-28-2023 07:36 AM

He seems like a high floor low ceiling player. His coach didn’t put him in the best position to get sacks.

I wanted Nolan Smith so bad.

duncan_idaho 04-28-2023 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16922266)
It's funny - you're the Felix Guy and I'll end up being seen as the anti-felix guy but I'll bet you and I see him almost identically as a player.

I think you see a little more burst than I do but still wouldn't consider him a 'twitchy' player. I think we both agree that he plays stronger than his size but he's not Foskey or White in terms of play strength.

He's a fairly chalky player. I don't think we got any sort of amazing value (I don't think you do either) but I think we took a solid guy who wouldn't have been available past 40 or so at a position where we want to keep layering talent.

It's...fine. B- outcome after it looked like A/A+ was on the table an hour previous to the the pick. It's neither brilliant nor stupid. It was a little more need based than I'd have expected as it's hard for me to believe that he graded higher in a vacuum than Porter or Branch, but they also clearly like him as a talent as they had him ahead of Foskey and White.

Ultimately I don't see much to be irritated or amazed by. It's just a fairly standard pick and ultimately development will determine how it ends up.

I'd describe the pick as "fine." It's boring and steady and has some upside but isn't something that makes you bang the table in excitement (like Myles Murphy probably would have, or Michael Mayer, or a non-reach WR).

Listening to a few takes on him, it sounds lke KSU schemed him a lot to play inside the T's should, or reduced inside, which don't play to his strengths.

It also sounds like he was more explosive as a sophomore than a junior, so maybe there is some truth to the injury component.

Dunerdr 04-28-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16922267)
I think he also said 'right there with those guys' before talking about how everyone gets really bunched up in that late 1st/early 2nd area.

I don't get the impression they were looking to trade up for him is ultimately my conclusion. They lost quite a few guess they liked in that 6-8 pick bloodbath through the 20s, IMO.

I think your probably right about a big part of their board going in the 20-30 range.

BigRedChief 04-28-2023 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16922311)
It also sounds like he was more explosive as a sophomore than a junior, so maybe there is some truth to the injury component.

Since the kid is local, I'm assuming the Chiefs have all the "real" info on the injury. Also assuming, whatever it is/was they are good with it.


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