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Dave Lane 08-06-2012 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 8794364)
Let's go land something on Jupiter.
Already did that.

Planetman 08-06-2012 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8794749)
Already did that.
Actually, that's a bit of a misrepresentation. The Galileo spacecraft we sent there and placed into orbit ever landed. It did drop a probe into Jupiter's atmosphere but it was crushed by the exteme gravitational forces of Jupiter's atmosphere, as expected.

ReynardMuldrake 08-06-2012 10:29 AM
http://i.imgur.com/udmAg.jpg

Donger 08-06-2012 10:43 AM
Amazing. MRO snapped a picture of Curiosity descending under the parachute:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6..._1600-1200.jpg

Donger 08-06-2012 10:43 AM
Another:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6...-full_full.jpg

Dave Lane 08-06-2012 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8794845)
Amazing. MRO snapped a picture of Curiosity descending under the parachute:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6..._1600-1200.jpg
Thats frikken awesome on so many levels. Sometimes I think doing astrophotography is insanely difficult and then I see stuff like this.

ReynardMuldrake 08-06-2012 10:46 AM
http://i.qkme.me/3qdehj.jpg

vailpass 08-06-2012 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8794847)
HTF can they take those kinds of pictures? Amazing.

Tom_A_Hawk 08-06-2012 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8794689)
In a perfect world, I think government shouldn't do big projects in a good economy and build up their resources to do projects in a bad economy. In a bad economy they'll get better pricing on goods and services because firms are hungry, and they'll also help regulate the economy by filling in the trough at the bottom of recessions. It's an all-around win.

Of course, a long-term project like this or the Interstate Highway System or whatever will likely transcend short-term economic fluctuations. It's probably more for local governments or maybe state government. If I was building a library or airport or something that takes five years or less, I'd want to use this system if I'm a smart local government.

The challenge, of course, will be holding on to your resources during the good times without making it look like you're hoarding. If we trusted our government and if our government really looked out for our money, it would work, but I'm not sure that either is really true.
not so sure they can be trusted....they did spend $600 for hammers and $300 for toilet seats in the past

Fish 08-06-2012 10:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8794845)
Amazing. MRO snapped a picture of Curiosity descending under the parachute:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6..._1600-1200.jpg
Holy shit that's one of the coolest things ever......

Donger 08-06-2012 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8794856)
HTF can they take those kinds of pictures? Amazing.
That was apparently taken by the HiRISE camera onboard the MRO, which is in orbit around Mars.

vailpass 08-06-2012 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8794869)
That was apparently taken by the HiRISE camera onboard the MRO, which is in orbit around Mars.
Wicked. Thanks for posting.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EQ96oEwYrE8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Donger 08-06-2012 11:02 AM
For those who are curious, this isn't the first time MRO has taken such a picture. Here's what MRO took of the Phoenix lander:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ce_Orbiter.jpg

Molitoth 08-06-2012 11:09 AM
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Computers: The two identical on-board rover computers, called "Rover Compute Element" (RCE), contain radiation hardened memory to tolerate the extreme radiation from space and to safeguard against power-off cycles. Each computer's memory includes 256 KB of EEPROM, 256 MB of DRAM, and 2 GB of flash memory.[19] This compares to 3 MB of EEPROM, 128 MB of DRAM, and 256 MB of flash memory used in the Mars Exploration Rovers.[20]
The RCE computers use the RAD750 CPU, which is a successor to the RAD6000 CPU used in the Mars Exploration Rovers.[21][22] The RAD750 CPU is capable of up to 400 MIPS, while the RAD6000 CPU is capable of up to 35 MIPS.[23][24] Of the two on-board computers, one is configured as backup, and will take over in the event of problems with the main computer.[19]
The rover has an Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU) that provides 3-axis information on its position, which is used in rover navigation.[19] The rover's computers are constantly self-monitoring to keep the rover operational, such as by regulating the rover's temperature.[19] Activities such as taking pictures, driving, and operating the instruments are performed in a command sequence that is sent from the flight team to the rover.[19]

One would think that the computers in this rover would be a bit more robust.

tooge 08-06-2012 11:12 AM
Is one of its 10 functions the ability to make crop circles? when are we gonna get back at them?

Planetman 08-06-2012 11:12 AM
Its nice to be able to move the MRO's orbit to capture photos like these.

Reerun_KC 08-06-2012 11:22 AM
Its time to put a man on Mars

qabbaan 08-06-2012 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8794881)
For those who are curious, this isn't the first time MRO has taken such a picture. Here's what MRO took of the Phoenix lander:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ce_Orbiter.jpg
I wouldn't have wanted to be there when that crater was created.

qabbaan 08-06-2012 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8794903)
Its time to put a man on Mars
I don't really see what the benefit would be, we can just devote the funding and effort to sending ever more advanced landers.

It would be horrendously costly to try to get meat there just to say we did.

Planetman 08-06-2012 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8794903)
Its time to put a man on Mars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_...ars#Challenges

Donger 08-06-2012 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8794907)
I don't really see what the benefit would be
You kind of answered your own "question" with your previous post.

qabbaan 08-06-2012 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8794911)
You kind of answered your own "question" with your previous post.
I am afraid I don't take your meaning.


Say, when will the kooks arrive saying all the space program stuff is faked?

Molitoth 08-06-2012 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8794904)
I wouldn't have wanted to be there when that crater was created.
Better than drowning....

:D

Molitoth 08-06-2012 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8794903)
Its time to put a man on Mars
The MSL mission has four scientific goals:
Determine whether Mars could ever have supported life.
Study the climate of Mars.
Study the geology of Mars.
Plan for a human mission to Mars.

To contribute to these goals, MSL has six main scientific objectives:
Determine the mineralogical composition of the Martian surface and near-surface geological materials.
Attempt to detect chemical building blocks of life (biosignatures).
Interpret the processes that have formed and modified rocks and soils.
Assess long-timescale (i.e., 4-billion-year) Martian atmospheric evolution processes.
Determine present state, distribution, and cycling of water and carbon dioxide.
Characterize the broad spectrum of surface radiation, including galactic radiation, cosmic radiation, solar proton events and secondary neutrons.
As part of its exploration, it is measuring the radiation exposure in the interior of the spacecraft as it travels to Mars, important data for a future manned mission.

Reerun_KC 08-06-2012 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8794924)
The MSL mission has four scientific goals:
Determine whether Mars could ever have supported life.
Study the climate of Mars.
Study the geology of Mars.
Plan for a human mission to Mars.

To contribute to these goals, MSL has six main scientific objectives:
Determine the mineralogical composition of the Martian surface and near-surface geological materials.
Attempt to detect chemical building blocks of life (biosignatures).
Interpret the processes that have formed and modified rocks and soils.
Assess long-timescale (i.e., 4-billion-year) Martian atmospheric evolution processes.
Determine present state, distribution, and cycling of water and carbon dioxide.
Characterize the broad spectrum of surface radiation, including galactic radiation, cosmic radiation, solar proton events and secondary neutrons.
As part of its exploration, it is measuring the radiation exposure in the interior of the spacecraft as it travels to Mars, important data for a future manned mission.
Probably wont happen in my life time.

I am turning 40 in March, I dont see us putting a guy on Mars in the next 40 years...

do you ?

Rain Man 08-06-2012 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8794881)
For those who are curious, this isn't the first time MRO has taken such a picture. Here's what MRO took of the Phoenix lander:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ce_Orbiter.jpg

That's a way cool photo.

Donger 08-06-2012 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8794921)
I am afraid I don't take your meaning.


Say, when will the kooks arrive saying all the space program stuff is faked?
If/when an extinction event happens on Earth, having humans living elsewhere (Mars, the Moon, etc.) would ensure our continuation.

Fish 08-06-2012 11:46 AM
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8...1620340729.jpg

Molitoth 08-06-2012 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8794931)
If/when an extinction event happens on Earth, having humans living elsewhere (Mars, the Moon, etc.) would ensure our continuation.
Which is why NASA and it's allies should be funded more than anything else on earth. This should be humans #1 goal.

Fish 08-06-2012 11:50 AM
Dammit... not again.....

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2...3429474310.jpg

vailpass 08-06-2012 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8794969)
LMAO

bevischief 08-06-2012 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8794969)
:)

Dave Lane 08-06-2012 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8794921)
Say, when will the kooks arrive saying all the space program stuff is faked?
CoMo Chief should be inbound immediately after todays episode of Prisonerplanet and Infowars to tell us why Obama faked this.

Dave Lane 08-06-2012 12:08 PM
Is that Schrodinger's cat?

chefsos 08-06-2012 02:00 PM
That was pretty damn cool. I woke up to watch the feed at 1:15 and followed this thread (can't prove it though, because I didn't post anything) and the landing seemed to go off without a hitch. Amazing. Hail to the geeks!

I'm pretty sleepy now...

JD10367 08-06-2012 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 8794855)
Right to my Facebook feed. :D

JD10367 08-06-2012 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8794903)
Its time to put a man on Mars
Aw, geez, let's not have another "Cassel sucks" thread... :D

Huffmeister 08-06-2012 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8794987)
CoMo Chief should be inbound immediately after todays episode of Prisonerplanet and Infowars to tell us why Obama faked this.
With YouTube videos. Lots and lots of YouTube videos.

Frazod 08-06-2012 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8794969)
I've been waiting for some sort of take on this all day. LMAO

HonestChieffan 08-06-2012 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8795457)
I've been waiting for some sort of take on this all day. LMAO
Mars possums look a lot like our housecats

JD10367 08-06-2012 02:46 PM
I'm sure they're all on far-distant sides of the planet, but it'd be cool if Curiosity could find the other rovers. "Group photo, everyone get together!"

Reerun_KC 08-06-2012 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8795483)
I'm sure they're all on far-distant sides of the planet, but it'd be cool if Curiosity could find the other rovers. "Group photo, everyone get together!"
'Or at least get them back on track and working?

Rain Man 08-06-2012 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8795507)
'Or at least get them back on track and working?
A rover that fixes other rovers. That's a pretty cool concept.

BigCatDaddy 08-06-2012 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8794969)
A beautiful soul was lost....

Fish 08-06-2012 03:17 PM
Pretty much...

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1...4095538996.jpg

ReynardMuldrake 08-06-2012 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8795587)
XKCD?

Fish 08-06-2012 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 8795625)
XKCD?
Yes sir.

Donger 08-06-2012 03:32 PM
I'm such a dork. Until just now, I didn't get why there would be a cat on Mars, or why it was run over by Curiosity, or why it was funny.

Reerun_KC 08-06-2012 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8795658)
I'm such a dork. Until just now, I didn't get why there would be a cat on Mars, or why it was run over by Curiosity, or why it was funny.
I still cant figure it out.

Planetman 08-06-2012 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8795682)
I still cant figure it out.
Fill in the blank.

________ killed the cat.

Reerun_KC 08-06-2012 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetman (Post 8795709)
Fill in the blank.

________ killed the cat.
:eek:

Dammit!

LOL

Planetman 08-06-2012 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8795718)
:eek:

Dammit!

LOL
Exactly. :D

-King- 08-06-2012 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetman (Post 8795709)
Fill in the blank.

________ killed the cat.
Heart murmur?

Reerun_KC 08-06-2012 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetman (Post 8795721)
Exactly. :D
Glad I wasnt the only one...

:huh:

Huffmeister 08-06-2012 04:08 PM
Any idea when we should be seeing some pictures from the HD cameras?

Fish 08-06-2012 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetman (Post 8795709)
Fill in the blank.

________ killed the cat.
Feline Immunodeficiency Virus

BigMeatballDave 08-06-2012 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8795658)
I'm such a dork. Until just now, I didn't get why there would be a cat on Mars, or why it was run over by Curiosity, or why it was funny.
Because cats suck.

Donger 08-06-2012 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Huffmeister (Post 8795753)
Any idea when we should be seeing some pictures from the HD cameras?
Later on this week when they get the mast deployed. Hi-resolution and color.

-King- 08-06-2012 04:21 PM
How far down can it drill?

|Zach| 08-06-2012 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8794925)
Probably wont happen in my life time.

I am turning 40 in March, I dont see us putting a guy on Mars in the next 40 years...

do you ?
They wanna do it by 2035

BillSelfsTrophycase 08-06-2012 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8795312)
Aw, geez, let's not have another "Cassel sucks" thread... :D
Great idea, let's send Cassel to Mars

chefsos 08-06-2012 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BillSelfsTrophycase (Post 8795784)
Great idea, let's send Cassel to Mars
Get that shit out of the Curiosity thread.






























We're launching him into the Sun.

Donger 08-06-2012 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8795775)
How far down can it drill?
I don't know, but I would be surprised if it is much different than on the other rovers:

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conten...nding_rock.jpg

Hopefully, the on-board camera worked during the final descent stage. That'll be really neat.

mlyonsd 08-06-2012 05:06 PM
Very cool.

Especially good was the video of mission control when it was announced they had landed. Watching a room full of rocket scientists attempt to high five and hug is entertaining.

Molitoth 08-06-2012 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 8795907)
Very cool.

Especially good was the video of mission control when it was announced they had landed. Watching a room full of rocket scientists attempt to high five and hug is entertaining.
No doubt that video was awesome.

Frazod 08-06-2012 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8795718)
:eek:

Dammit!

LOL
Dumbass LMAO

Reerun_KC 08-06-2012 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8796000)
Dumbass LMAO
shut your methed out mouth...

:thumb:


Yeah well some are slower than others... :harumph:

Frazod 08-06-2012 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8796007)
shut your methed out mouth...

:thumb:


Yeah well some are slower than others... :harumph:
Save yourself some pain and skip the civics test in DC, Vince Young. :p

Reerun_KC 08-06-2012 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8796011)
Save yourself some pain and skip the civics test in DC, Vince Young. :p
HEY!
:cuss:

Screw you guys, I'm going home...

Frazod 08-06-2012 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8796018)
HEY!
:cuss:

Screw you guys, I'm going home...
:evil:

Planetman 08-06-2012 06:04 PM
The video of the landing is on YouTube but all I have is the mobile link so I won't bother posting it. The description is as follows: The Curiosity Mars Descent Imager (MARDI) captured the rover's descent to the surface of the Red Planet. The instrument shot 4 fps video from heatshield separation to the ground

Donger 08-06-2012 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Planetman (Post 8796049)
The video of the landing is on YouTube but all I have is the mobile link so I won't bother posting it. The description is as follows: The Curiosity Mars Descent Imager (MARDI) captured the rover's descent to the surface of the Red Planet. The instrument shot 4 fps video from heatshield separation to the ground
Holy shit!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UcGMDXy-Y1I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Planetman 08-06-2012 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8796074)
Holy shit!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UcGMDXy-Y1I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
You're welcome. Pretty damn cool, eh?

Molitoth 08-06-2012 06:27 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/N9hXqzkH7YA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DaFace 08-06-2012 10:14 PM
Quite a few pics on this page (though many of them were in the video posted above).

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/index.html

JD10367 08-06-2012 10:37 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KeyLHPg6ft4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Molitoth 08-07-2012 07:13 AM
The next news conference should be held at Noon central today here:
http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL

ReynardMuldrake 08-07-2012 07:44 AM
First high-res shots from Curiousity:

http://i.imgur.com/6IY4x.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9KLfd.jpg

Hammock Parties 08-07-2012 07:45 AM
Now that is incredible.

notorious 08-07-2012 07:46 AM
They need to find life.


Earthlings need to get over themselves already.


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