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He is more of the type of production you get from a rookie QB in his first year. Some good, some bad, some ugly, tons of potential, etc. |
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Come on Davone Bess is their best WR down there. Their OL is shit. Reggie Bush is their RB. He has looked pretty good with what I have seen of him especially considering what is around him. And if it takes you or anyone else having to see to believe you will always be late to the party and miss out. |
I take it some of you guys don't watch many of the games or sportscenter or Total Access or NFL Live.
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I don't read every thread, but honestly, I don't get the racism accusations against the posters here. I've seen huge props given out to RGIII, Cam and Gino. I've seen some negative comments, but they were all performance based. Can the accuser(s) here (Bump) site some examples of racist comments against black QBs? I hope this accusation is NOT based strictly on performance comments. If that's the case, then Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn and Scott Pioli must all be black.
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Geno is faster, has the frame and hands, and has a ton more experience even if it's not necessarily optimal, and throws a much better and more accurate ball. |
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RG III has a completely different build and has the intelligence to fit any offense. The athletic QB has become the new sexy. It just is. That said there will still be some hold outs, no matter the play, that say "just another dumb ****er running with the football..." This is life... |
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I think we need to acknowledge that despite stereotypes and preferences for style of play, the vast majority of posters here are concerned with the quality of QB play and NOT the QB race/ethnicity. To assign a racist agenda to the entire board deserves a rebuttal. |
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Cam doesn't belong in this equation. Lots of reasons to question his character, regardless of race. |
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Race doesn't play an issue? Ok. How many white RB's or WR's were taken in the 1st over the last 10 years? That's ****ing 68.4% of the population of this country. And how many white HB's or WR's were worth spending a 1st on?... |
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How many white rbs had the complete physical package? |
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It works both ways. Stereotypes work both ways. By the way, when you sweat, you smell like wet dog... |
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People no matter their race can't help what they are naturally good at or naturally bad at. It is merely other people wanting to say look the blacks or the whites are better at this or that. Who cares what color your skin. Just do what you are good at. Somebody wanting to use these type of statistics for anything racial is just not a very good person and should lose all credibility. I don't care that someone is better at something than I am because I will be better than they are at something. It is just the way life is for all of us. |
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"Running is what he does, regardless of how bad you want to think otherwise." |
The dumbshits on this message board who claimed that RGIII wasn't worth trading up to the #2 overall pick to draft should kill themselves.
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After we lose to Carolina at home.
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Bwahahahaha... /Pioli
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RGIII and Luck are just OMG good.
I honestly have them ranked as the 5th and 6th best QB's in the NFL...already. Their rookie seasons. Insane. 1a. Peyton 1b. Brady 2. Rodgers 3. Eli 4. Brees 5. Luck 6. RGIII 7. Big Ben and that's not taking into account anything other than 2012 value alone |
I'm just amazed by Russel Wilson.
He's turning out to be not just some nice 3rd round pick story. He's proving he's a legit franchise QB. Sure he doesn't have the height you'd typically look for but I think he has everything else. Kudos to Seattle for grabbing him. |
Guys are coming into the league ready to play and better than ever. That's why I want to puke when people want to pass on a guy like Geno for a ****ing MLB.
Like said above look at Russel Wilson and even a guy like Dalton. Geno is a better prospect by a good margin. |
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But, really, between those three they're all really neck and neck. I could see any of the three being better than the others by a very slim margin. |
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This is eggsactly why we should get Geno. He is a unpolished version of RGIII. Just a little work and BAM! QBOTF Baby!
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But Aaron doesn't have Russell's mobility. Hard to say at this point. Some old ways of thinking die hard. |
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I don't want my QB owning the rookie rushing record for QBs. |
And it looks like he is hurt again. This exactly why I don't want anyone that has his style of play. Is he good? Yes. Is he dependable? No.
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I was looking forward to seeing Kirk "the Savior" Cousins again... |
I'd take Cousins for a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat...and draft Geno if we could. **** it.
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I get the sarcasm and I understand you're a college football fan and didn't like what you saw from him while at MSU.
But I'm sorry...watching him in the preseason and then seeing him perform in a real NFL game under real NFL pressure...I think he's a gamer. I'd have no issues with trading a 2nd or 3rd for him and drafting the BQBA in round 1. I honestly think the Chiefs need to spend two picks on QB's this draft anyways. Whether it be on a trade for a guy like Cousins or taking a QB in the 1st and the 3rd. |
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I think Cousins put that awful comparison to rest this weekend though don't you? Cousins is clearly better than any QB on the KC or AZ roster. Not that that should be your standard. |
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Put Cousins in KC, with Romeo and the 3-ring Chiefs, and he'd be doing exactly what Stanzi is doing. |
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The reality is that the largest statistical sample - their college careers - suggests STRONGLY that they're the same heady yet physically-limited game manager that won a lot of games with strong defenses and running games. |
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He runs when other QBs slide and he pays for it. He runs when other QBs don't. He pays for it. What is so hard to understand? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FgK12g8to7U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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I have to watch the redskins and the vast majority of his running is designed within their game plan. He's not willy-nilly running wild every play like donkey dicks in denver seem to be led to believe. He also turns the ball over 500* less than andrew luck. |
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I agree that eventually RGIII is going to have to drop the running element out of his game...he'd be just fine as a pocket QB IMO circa Donovan McNabb (but better) |
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if you ever watch Cam Newton...his running is a thing of beauty he senses the big hit and always does this tumble right before and almost never takes a hit...at least never a hard hit that's one dude that knows how to run/not get hti |
Woah, how'd vailpass get banned?
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