Considering who our coaches were before, it was just insane/****tarded not to consider Reid a massive upgrade. I do remember some Eagles fans wandering in warning that he could get you to the big one, but never win it (oops!). And even if that were the case, back then that would have been a significant improvement over one-and-done in the playoffs every goddamn year.

As for BWillie, well, that just speaks for itself. LMAO

Yeah, I can't recall thinking to myself "Reid or Herm Edwards? I think I gotta go Edwards here." I would have slit my own throat before that.

Oh no question - Reid was graded on a curve at the time given the Fat Scott era.

But "Horrible Hire" is the standard Keitzman set here and thaVirus half-heartedly endorsed.

No, even grading on a curve, nobody of sound mind thought this was a 'horrible hire'. Mediocre? Likely to eventually disappoint? Oh fine, that was a perhaps more commonly held position.

But that's not what that ****ing raging dipshit Kevin Keitzman was saying.

Lord almighty I hate that guy.

Why'd you have to go send out the mouth-breathing mongoloid signal?

(looks at poll, takes deep sigh of relief)

We have to remember Reid was coming off a very disappointing season with what the media deemed "The Dream Team" or some shit like that.

And the three loses were two AFC Championship games and a Super Bowl.

Yeah but he didn't run the ball when I screamed at him through the TV set so he's still not a great coach but don't pigeonhole me into saying he sucks even though all I ever do is bitch and whine about him and come up with explanations for how anything he does right is due to the team he's surrounded by even though he's responsible for selecting, hiring, and coaching all of the people who prop him up

/Wallcrawler

If you take into account that the Patriots playoff wins from 2001 to 2006 were tainted because of Spygate, Andy is well ahead of Belichick...

Agreed. It wasn’t the best look but in retrospect, I’m not sure if even Andy Reid would have been able to help that franchise.

Well you provided receipts so I will give you that.

Just didn’t seem weird to me given how miserable CPers are and definitely were at that point in time. Mfs wanted a Super Bowl more than anything and most people didn’t think Reid would ever be able to deliver one so I wouldn’t be surprised if anyone didn’t like the move at the time.

It actually is a shocking development. If he was on any other team, they would've ****ed him up. Maybe some playoff wins, 1 Super Bowl win if he's lucky. Only the combo of Andy and Mahomes could've led to the next NFL dynasty.

Media actually though he was gonna pass Shula. He wasn't just a few games behind. Over 20 I think.

Reerun still continues to double down. After 3 ****ing rings and 4 trips. Some people just wanna be right more than anything else.

You need a month long vacation for this post.

Andy is just as much responsible for Patrick's success as Patrick is for Andy's success.

Patrick himself has said this. In fact, in interviews, it's the one thing he repeats almost every chance he gets across multiple years.

What did Bill Walsh do without Montana? Belichick without Brady? Holmgren without Favre? The list goes on and on and on.

And considering how some other coaches have absolutely WASTED HOF talent at QB, Andy gets a lot of bonus points for absolutely maximizing the Patrick Mahomes era.

DON SHULA got Dan Marino one SB appearance and shit else apart from getting pounded in the postseason. The guy is on a short list of coaches who MIGHT be better than Andy and he didn't come close to what Andy is doing with one of the greatest QBs ever.

The greatest five year run in NFL history and you're still whining. Put some bricks in your pockets and take a long walk off a short pier.

You could probably throw GMs into that conversation too. A good GM puts the talent around them that enables that success. A bad GM leaves them unable to capitalize.