Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15852328)

And while it never made it to DVD or bluray, Son of the Morning Star was excellent - it was a two part miniseries about Custer, starring Gary Cole (Nordberg from Office Space).

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15852319)

I'd say they're spiritual successors, to be sure, but there's definitely grounds to distinguish them.

I think Rio Bravo is easily the best of the 3. El Dorado is decent in its own way, but nowhere near the quality of film as Rio Bravo. It's a little more goofy, IMO. Rio Lobo is pretty much an also ran.

And while I do enjoy me some Josephine MacDonald, the latter two movies do not have Angie Dickinson. Apart from being a genuinely good actress, she's just awfully enjoyable to look at.

Feathers is probably the best female character in a John Wayne western. Maureen O'Hara in The Quiet Man is the best female character in any John Wayne movie, but she wasn't as good in the westerns (good in Big Jake, but her part was too small).

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15852326)

I could see that.

She's a pretty shitty character, for sure. Stupid and inexplicable motivation (not surprising for female characters of the era), grating persona at times and faaaaar too important down the homestretch.

Here's my biggest gripe about Red River -

Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15852340)

I think I may have watched this. Did the Indians jab something into Custer's eardrums after he died at the end of the movie?

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15852350)

Yes, a sewing awl. The punctured his ears so he would hear them better in the next life.

Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15852340)

I think I may have watched this. Did the Indians jab something into Custer's eardrums after he died at the end of the movie?

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15852363)

I don’t remember much about that movie, like so many movies adapted from books it was kind of a disappointment with me

But yes they did jab out his eardrums, because “he didn’t hear what they had been telling him” about wanting to be left alone

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15852357)

Forgot Silverado. Admittedly it's corny and cliched as hell, but it has one of the greatest casts ever assembled and is awesome and fun.

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15852328)

The Proposition is really cool. It is a touch on the arty side, but in a good way, as opposed to a Christopher Nolan mind**** way.

Another really good Australian western that I love is Quigley Down Under. Tom Selleck as the quintessential American hero and Alan Rickman in another wonderful role as sneering villain.

As previously mentioned, Unforgiven tops my list of favorite westerns. I also really, really, really liked the Cohen Brothers remake of True Grit, which is far superior to the original. Loved High Plains Drifter and The Shootist. Big fan of both (somewhat) recent Wyatt Earp movies, Tombstone and Wyatt Earp. Dennis Quaid was a much Doc Holliday than Val Kilmer.

Another favorite is the mostly forgotten Long Riders, about the James/Younger gang. All the brothers in the movie are played by actual brothers. The Keaches play the Jameses, the Carradines play the Youngers, the Quaids play the Millers, and the Guests play the Fords. Also features my favorite knife fight ever between David Carradine and James Remar.

And while it never made it to DVD or bluray, Son of the Morning Star was excellent - it was a two part miniseries about Custer, starring Gary Cole (Nordberg from Office Space).

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 15852344)

Oh, sure, there are obviously differences between the three but, the over all plot and structure are the same. And I agree that Rio Lobo is an also ran. Definitely the weakest of the three. One has to wonder how much better it might have been if Duke got his way and played the old drunken coot role.

Hmmm, I can’t really disagree with your take on Feathers as the best female character but, I can think of a couple of competitors that we could certainly have a discussion about: Vera Miles in Liberty Valance, and Lauren Bacall in The Shootist.

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15852374)

It's probably the best and most accurate portrayal of the events leading up to and the battle of Little Big Horn.

It was actually better than the book it was based on, which while informative, was a disjointed mess. He wrote about stuff in no particular order and just left it that way.

Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 15852262)

Years ago there was a fanedit combining a couple of different cuts of my favorite part of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. It began with James Coburn recruiting Slim Pickens and Katy Jurado and ended with the "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" scene. Those two scenes are so good and tell such a complete story they can stand alone as its own movie, imo.