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007 12-11-2018 10:47 PM
Depends. If we are playing under year 2000 rules and refs, our point total would be potentially under 20. BUT, if under 2018 rules, no way we score less than 30.

That guy needs to go back and look at some of the scores from their games that year. By the way they had 4 losses as well.

tk13 12-11-2018 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 13953090)
Depends. If we are playing under year 2000 rules and refs, our point total would be potentially under 20. BUT, if under 2018 rules, no way we score less than 30.

That guy needs to go back and look at some of the scores from their games that year. By the way they had 4 losses as well.
To be fair in those 4 losses their offense scored 21 points. They won every game that year when their offense scored at least double digits. Their defense allowed like 10 points a game, which is pretty absurd.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-11-2018 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 13953090)
Depends. If we are playing under year 2000 rules and refs, our point total would be potentially under 20. BUT, if under 2018 rules, no way we score less than 30.
I'm pretty sure that's what he means. I would HOPE that's what he means. Ravens "Lewis/Reed" defense at its peak, under the old rules, vs this current Chiefs O-line?

Oh Jesus.... LMAO

PAChiefsGuy 12-11-2018 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13953075)
It's basically like the arguments about the classic Bulls vs today's Warriors. Depends on the rules you play under. If you play under the old hand check rules and allow the physical basketball of the 90s the Warriors would have a rough time. If you play by today's rules the Bulls would have a lot of trouble trying to slow the Warriors offense down.

The biggest problem the Ravens would still have is there weren't mobile QBs who could run and throw like Mahomes and Rodgers can. There were guys who could certainly pass the ball, and guys like Kordell Stewart who could run, but they weren't anywhere near the level of passer that you'd see today. Of course their DBs could maul the KC receivers without penalty.
Great post and I agree with this. Chiefs offense isn't built to score pts in the early 2000s it's built to score pts in today's era. Ravens defense it is the same thing only reversed.

One aspect that is in the Ravens favor is that when great defenses go against great offenses often times the defense is the winner. All you have to do is look at Broncos vs Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII

BossPooper 12-11-2018 11:56 PM
Ray... Will Shields called. He wants your ass home by midnight or you're grounded. Don't make your Daddy angry now.

007 12-11-2018 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13953094)
To be fair in those 4 losses their offense scored 21 points. They won every game that year when their offense scored at least double digits. Their defense allowed like 10 points a game, which is pretty absurd.
they gave up over 30 to Jacksonville

tk13 12-12-2018 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 13953140)
they gave up over 30 to Jacksonville
Yeah they did. But does that really change anything? That means they allowed like 6 points per game in the other 19 games of the season. The 85 Bears got lit up by Marino. It's not like every great team is perfect all year. The 99 Rams was maybe the best offense ever and they had to win an 11-6 game to get to the Super Bowl.

Bob Dole 12-12-2018 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13953075)
It's basically like the arguments about the classic Bulls vs today's Warriors. Depends on the rules you play under. If you play under the old hand check rules and allow the physical basketball of the 90s the Warriors would have a rough time. If you play by today's rules the Bulls would have a lot of trouble trying to slow the Warriors offense down.

The biggest problem the Ravens would still have is there weren't mobile QBs who could run and throw like Mahomes and Rodgers can. There were guys who could certainly pass the ball, and guys like Kordell Stewart who could run, but they weren't anywhere near the level of passer that you'd see today. Of course their DBs could maul the KC receivers without penalty.

Back when Sir Charles got to elbow his way in and score... About the time I stopped watching that thing they called basketball.

TribalElder 12-12-2018 12:51 AM
CTE

007 12-12-2018 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13953157)
Yeah they did. But does that really change anything? That means they allowed like 6 points per game in the other 19 games of the season. The 85 Bears got lit up by Marino. It's not like every great team is perfect all year. The 99 Rams was maybe the best offense ever and they had to win an 11-6 game to get to the Super Bowl.
That my point. Lewis can't say something like that with a straight face. Two different eras and they did get lit up once that season while losing four games. Its stupid to sit there and say "oh yeah, we would hold this chiefs offense to 3 points." Guy is full of shit.

Naptown Chief 12-12-2018 01:36 AM
In this hypothetical situation, is he locked up for murda or naw?

Baby Lee 12-12-2018 01:38 AM
When did professional athletes become overconfident and hyperbolic?

Rasputin 12-12-2018 03:52 AM
This offense would cut the 85 Bears.

Iconic 12-12-2018 05:27 AM
If the rules went back to how they used to play then 3 would still be too low. That defense was good but this O is just as good.

I'd say something like 20-17 Chiefs.

Rasputin 12-12-2018 06:14 AM
We weren't even healthy against the Ravens so they didn't get the best we got. Tyreek was limping we are without a #2 WR and our Oline is dinged. I think a healthy O and Patrick would put up 4 TD passes against the Ravens Ray Lewis. You can't stop the no look pass.


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