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eDave 01-03-2017 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 12658306)
bing. we beat the steelers we will win the superbowl
Take it easy.

carcosa 01-03-2017 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12658332)
Why? Just because Brady threw for more yards and TD in 12 games than Alex in 16?


:Poke:
Yards and TDs are overrated. Alex has HEART!!!!!!

Chief Northman 01-03-2017 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12658329)
So here's the deal with the Pats OL -- it is MUCH better in 2016 than it was in 2015. I won't go on and on, but here's the bottom line:

1. Marcus Cannon is one MILLION times better this year than last year. Proof: He allowed fewer QB pressures/sacks in ALL of 2016 than he did in the 2015 playoff game against Denver alone. And completely stoned Von Miller in 2016 as part of that.

2. Nate Solder (IR last year) is healthy and playing well at LT.

3. Young OL better this year.

4. Dante Scarnecchia is back, and has really improved the whole OL.


It's like night and day. We CAN run the ball. We CAN pass protect. Amazing but true!
Agreed. The most notable difference by far. Losing Gronk hurts less considering how solid that O-line has played. Brady gets all the attention, but his job has been made so much easier this year because that Pats O-line is legit.

wazu 01-03-2017 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12658286)
Actually I'll take Steelers over Chiefs. The usual "any given Sunday" applies, but Pats have completely owned the Steelers for 15 years to be honest. Ben/Bell/Brown are scary, but teams with no defense never beat the Pats.

The way the Pats lose is ALWAYS when the DL controls our OL and Brady has no time. That is basically the only formula for beating the Pats, and the Chiefs might have that formula with Ford/Houston, while the Steelers definitely do not.
No defense? Steelers had 10 more sacks than the Chiefs. #12 ranked D. (Chiefs #24)

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2017 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12658329)
So here's the deal with the Pats OL -- it is MUCH better in 2016 than it was in 2015. I won't go on and on, but here's the bottom line:

1. Marcus Cannon is one MILLION times better this year than last year. Proof: He allowed fewer QB pressures/sacks in ALL of 2016 than he did in the 2015 playoff game against Denver alone. And completely stoned Von Miller in 2016 as part of that.

2. Nate Solder (IR last year) is healthy and playing well at LT.

3. Young OL better this year.

4. Dante Scarnecchia is back, and has really improved the whole OL.


It's like night and day. We CAN run the ball. We CAN pass protect. Amazing but true!
About what I figured... Scarnecchia was a nice boost.

Amnorix 01-03-2017 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12658343)
About what I figured... Scarnecchia was a nice boost.

That crazy old man is nails.

My favorite Scar story -- all NFL players and coaches must make themselves available to the media on Super Bowl media day so Scar -- who hates talking to reporters -- sits WAAAAY up in the nosebleed section of the stadium. Any reporter who wants to speak with him must pay the iron price of climbing all those steps.

Amnorix 01-03-2017 01:59 PM
My favor Scar fact -- he was once the interim Patriots head coach.....


....in 1992. After Dick MacPherson got sick the year before he was fired and the Pats hired Parcells.

Rain Man 01-03-2017 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 12658341)
No defense? Steelers had 10 more sacks than the Chiefs. #12 ranked D. (Chiefs #24)
Well, yeah, but they played the Browns twice. That's got to be 20 sacks or so.

wazu 01-03-2017 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12658356)
Well, yeah, but they played the Browns twice. That's got to be 20 sacks or so.
Agreed. And I'll take Chiefs D, but this myth that the Steelers suck on defense is wishful thinking.

Rooster 01-03-2017 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12658332)
Why? Just because Brady threw for more yards and TD in 12 games than Alex in 16?


:Poke:
That's cute but that's not how we measure QBs in KC. Check downs is where it's at my chowder eating friend. And Alex Smith has dominated in check downs for over a decade. ;)

Steve Sewell 01-03-2017 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12658356)
Well, yeah, but they played the Browns twice. That's got to be 20 sacks or so.
The Chiefs played the Broncos twice...

Rooster 01-03-2017 02:11 PM
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bing. we beat the steelers we will win the superbowl
Tap on this would ya?

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2017 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell (Post 12658373)
The Chiefs played the Broncos twice...
The Browns surrendered 66 sacks this year to Denver's 40.

Rain Man 01-03-2017 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell (Post 12658373)
The Chiefs played the Broncos twice...
Okay, that made me smile. I'll give you points for that.

prhom 01-03-2017 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12658290)
Don't forget Chris Jones and Poe... I think interior pressure is as or more important against Brady than anything and Jones gives us that in a way we haven't had in recent years. NE seems to be protecting Brady pretty well though. How did they block against DEN?
I thought our DL would the deciding factor in last year's game and in a way, it was. They utterly failed us and no other group was able to pick up the slack. We missed some INTs and had the fumble by Davis go against us as well. If the DL can pressure Brady this time then maybe things turn out our way. I've seen the DL play really well this year and play like they don't really care. I've got the feeling Houston just won't be a factor in the playoffs again so our other guys need to step up big time.


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