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DJ's left nut 10-25-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12506122)
That's assuming Hali wouldn't voluntarily repay it.

He's loyal, not stupid.

The guy's given a lot for this game and has left a few bucks on the table here and there. There aren't a ton of guys that earn every penny they make in the NFL but Hali will end up pretty close.

I wouldn't expect it and if he offered I suspect Hunt would decline.

I don't mind guys getting paid what they're worth and love it when that worth matches up with the team's need. Hali's been a hell of a fit in that regard pretty much his entire career. When I look at the ring of honor and realize that they're going to have to shrink names or give short shrift to someone like Hali or DJ because they can't help but put guys like Tony Richardson up there, it just makes me cringe a bit.

There are good players and then there are great Chiefs. Hali's the latter. I wouldn't take his money even if he tried to give it back.

BryanBusby 10-25-2016 03:57 PM

Hali has already made more money than he'll ever need and the Chiefs did things for him that are priceless. I wouldn't expect it, but it wouldn't surprise me if he gave it back voluntarily. He had zero incentive to adjust his contract earlier, but he did it.

The Chiefs are rather strapped for cap space and may need to recoup it for competitive reasons.

O.city 10-27-2016 11:08 AM

They've got 10 mil this year they can rollover, how much will that help? I haven't looked at next years space much

RunKC 10-27-2016 12:30 PM

The UNC QB looks really intriguing to me. I think he could be a good fit here.

O.city 10-28-2016 10:05 AM

This year's qb class lacks early front end starters which, is good for the chiefs draft spot. Could be some nice developmental guys therr mid late first

The Franchise 10-28-2016 10:11 AM

They have another writer (Charlie Campbell) who does his mock draft as well. Here's his...

25. Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

The Chiefs could have drafted a receiver early in the 2016 NFL Draft. Many believe they were targeting Laquon Treadwell with their first-round pick. Here's a receiver to trio with Jeremy Maclin and Chris Conley.

In 2016, Williams has 39 receptions for 578 yards and four touchdowns. He had an impressive return to college football against Auburn as he totaled nine receptions for 174 yards and was unstoppable on the sideline back-shoulder plays. Williams did show some rust with a fumble and a dropped touchdown pass.

In the 2015 season opener, Williams fractured his neck when he ran into the goalpost while catching a touchdown. That ended his year. Williams had the potential to be the top wide receiver prospect in the 2016 NFL Draft as the 6-foot-3, 205-pounder has a real combination of size and speed.

With Sammy Watkins in the NFL, Williams took over as Clemson's lead receiver in 2014 and caught 57 passes for 1,030 yards and six touchdowns. In his freshman season, he had 20 catches for 316 yards and three scores.

58. Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State

The Chiefs could use a young linebacker to pair with Derrick Johnson and eventually take over as the leader of their defense when Johnson is done.

In 2016, McMillan has been solid for Ohio State with 42 tackles, 2.5 for a loss, two passes broken up and one forced fumble. The 6-foot-2, 240-pounder played well in 2015, totaling 119 tackles with 1.5 sacks and four passes broken up on the year. As a freshman in 2014, he played a lot for Ohio State and totaled 54 tackles with 2.5 sacks and a pick-six.

McMillan is a tough defender who has the skill set to be a three-down starter in the NFL. However right now, he struggles in pass coverage and needs to improve his ability to drop into coverage. McMillan is a physical, tough run defender at the point of attack.

DJ's left nut 10-28-2016 10:23 AM

I'm not drafting a WR in the first round before we can figure out how to use the weapons we have.

And if we can't, it's time to be drafting a QB.

This team has the weapons and honestly it's becoming almost as ridiculous as Walter's insistence on drafting OL to us for the past 5 years. I think this is 3 straight that we've seen talking heads yapping about the Chiefs need to get another WR.

Smith has enough talent to succeed. There are other teams that have slightly better supporting casts, but not by leaps and bounds. Smith's weapons are well above average and if he can't score points with them, it's time to replace him and stop trying to prop him up.

I like the guy, but it looks like his ceiling is firmly fixed. Putting more people under said roof does nothing to raise it.

O.city 10-28-2016 10:28 AM

Pretty much

We're at the point that you can look at every spot on the offense save for the qb, and think "I mean we could upgrade it I guess, but that guys pretty good".

The last 2 weeks the offense has been better but they still need more explosion

The Franchise 10-28-2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12509535)
I'm not drafting a WR in the first round before we can figure out how to use the weapons we have.

And if we can't, it's time to be drafting a QB.

This team has the weapons and honestly it's becoming almost as ridiculous as Walter's insistence on drafting OL to us for the past 5 years. I think this is 3 straight that we've seen talking heads yapping about the Chiefs need to get another WR.

Smith has enough talent to succeed. There are other teams that have slightly better supporting casts, but not by leaps and bounds. Smith's weapons are well above average and if he can't score points with them, it's time to replace him and stop trying to prop him up.

I like the guy, but it looks like his ceiling is firmly fixed. Putting more people under said roof does nothing to raise it.

I don't know if there will be a QB where we end up drafting.....and I don't see them having the balls or the picks to move up and take one of the top ones.

Saccopoo 10-28-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12509503)
This year's 34 OLB class has early front end starters which, is good for the chiefs draft spot. Could be some nice starter guys in the mid late first

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The Franchise 10-28-2016 11:16 AM

Unless there is a QB there......I would like to see them come away with a DE/OLB and a CB in the first 2 rounds.

Saccopoo 10-28-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12509642)
Unless there is a QB there......I would like to see them come away with a DE/OLB and a CB in the first 2 rounds.

I don't see much of a QB or CB class here for the 2017 draft, however, it's chalk full of really solid 34 rush ends/OLBs.

Along with a starting level OLB and CB they also really need a ILB, but most of the guys that fit the Dorsey profile are underclassmen/juniors.

Zach Cunningham of Vanderbilt has been on an absolute tear so far this season, and the guys at Florida are also having a nice year, particularly Alex Anzalone.

They really might get stuck in a "BPA" type of situation, which is probably leaning towards a 34 OLB prospect. (Which wouldn't be a bad thing.)

OldSchool 10-29-2016 05:48 PM

Yup, smart move would be to take a pass rusher or DB up top in this draft.

Dante84 10-31-2016 11:46 AM

We'll be in a great spot (20-32) to pick up a top ILB, if the value is there.

Who is the best ILB coming out?

Saccopoo 11-03-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12519529)
We'll be in a great spot (20-32) to pick up a top ILB, if the value is there.

Who is the best ILB coming out?

Most are underclassmen and haven't declared.

The guys that fit the Dorsey profile and scheme best are guys like:

Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt; 6'3", 235 lb. rsJr.

Azeem Victor, Washington, 6'3", 230 lb., rsJr.

Alex Anzalone, Florida, 6'3", 235 lb. rs, Jr.


All three are having very productive seasons.

Victor was really strong against Utah and Anzalone was all over the field against Georgia. Cunningham's production so far in 2016 might get him the Butkus Award.


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