We seemed to be in win now mode last year. I'm not so sure that's the case now, but I guess some things could change. Some things better change.

If he lasts that long, the chiefs could really make some headway in a trade down.

Say Houston would be willing to give up their 2nd, 3rd and another pick, I'd think about it

No

I don't think we're in win now mode. You can't beat Manning in the modern NFL, even if he's got 52 dregs on the team with him. We saw that last year.

I'd take that deal, but I'd try to squeeze a 4th or 5th more, too.

I think it's a combination of last year being every bit as much rebuild as this year and them believing more in incumbent talent on the roster than the rest of us.

He's a guy you are going to have to groom.

He's going to have to fill in his frame.

He's going to have to work on his feet.

He's going to have to correct his throwing motion.

He's going to have to work on his progressions.

You never really know about a guy until he gets the chance, but I don't see the foundation to really build a high level starter from with Bridgewater.

And furthermore, is this the guy you want to groom versus Bray?

Because that's the real question. Bray or Bridgewater. Both are projects that are going to require another couple of years before they are truly ready.

This would be the ideal solution.

That extra high third could go a long way in netting a very good player at a position of need. And we'd likely get the same guy with the #33 pick that we will with the #23 pick.

Yeah for sure

If you draft him, let him sit for a year, Let Alex walk and dont pay him a big contract, then you can sign some playmakers.

As shitty as this franchise has been, i say you just draft him, if he's the number 1 guy. I do want to win now, but if this gives us a chance at a real QBOTF, then you always always take that chance.

With that being said. We are the ****ing Chiefs, we arent drafting a stinking qb.

You really start rebuilding a team by trading the 1st pick of the 2nd round and next year's 2nd rounder for a QB?

I heard them talking on the radio the other day. In a poll like 55% of Chief fans said they would pass on Manziel if he were there and Bridgewater if he were there in the 1st round. I think the phrase they used was Chiefs fans don't want to "dare to be great" at the QB spot.

Unless its Johnny ****ing Manziel, this team isn't drafting a 1st rd QB AND re-signing Alex Smith. It's simply not going to happen. And even Manziel did fall to KC, I still highly doubt Reid/Dorsey would pull the trigger on that.

Honestly, you have to have a quarterback in this league to compete at all. Alex Smith helps the Chiefs compete, which is the first step toward turning the ship around. You simply can't go into the 2013 season with Matt Cassel as your quarterback, and the NFL isn't a Madden game where you can tank a year by starting former secretary of state Madeleine O'Connell for a year.*



*Yeah, I know about Curtis Painter. I can't explain Curtis Painter.

While I understand people not wanting to draft him, I wouldn't give a shit if we drafting a QB with every single pick we had for the next 3 years if the end result was we picked up a franchise QB. Having a franchise QB locking down that spot for the next 15 years makes it all worth while. That being said, nothing is a guarantee. Go BPA for the most part but if you do reach, a QB isn't a bad position to reach on.