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Dante84 02-26-2013 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9441976)
Andy maybe copy Bill Williamson's fat ass.

Still pissed about that Revis bullshit. :mad:

unlurking 02-26-2013 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9441982)
anybody who puts Flacco in the top 10 is CRAZY

he had a postseason of a lifetime...he also got a 1% on par with the Music City Miracle to have said postseason

PERHAPS NEXT YEAR if he parlays this Super Bowl into an actual regular season where he doesn't have 4 Tom Brady games, 4 Matt Schaub games, 2 Andy Dalton games and 6 Mark Sanchez games I'll be willing to reconsider.

As of right now, Flacco is who he is...a SUPREMELY talented INCONSISTENT QB who sometimes looks like the best in the league but often looks like Mark Sanchez as well.

He is the most confusing QB I've ever watched in my life. Maybe it really was Cam Cameron holding him back...I don't know.

but there is no way that, because of one Rahim Moore I'd take Joe Flacco over:

Aaron Rodgers
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Drew Brees
Colin Kaepernick
Russel Wilson
Andrew Luck
RGIII
Matt Ryan
Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton (I admit I appear to be higher on him than most)

but again...I'm not ruling out this Super Bowl elevating Flacco to 'swagger mode' where he finally stops with the inconsistency and becomes a true franchise QB.

Until then, no way. He still has something to prove in my eyes.
Dude, don't derail this thread with your Flacco hate.

htismaqe 02-26-2013 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9441982)
anybody who puts Flacco in the top 10 is CRAZY
He's not in the top 10. Your whole rant is silly. He's 14th.

And that list doesn't include ANY QBs drafted earlier than 1998 nor does it include anybody that wasn't drafted in the 1st round.

Hootie 02-26-2013 04:20 PM
it's not Flacco hate and I won't derail this thread but I just want everyone to relax and calm down with this whole idea "Joe Flacco is an elite NFL QB"

unlurking 02-26-2013 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9441996)
it's not Flacco hate and I won't derail this thread but I just want everyone to relax and calm down with this whole idea "Joe Flacco is an elite NFL QB"
Then start your own damned thread. No one has stated that in this thread.

Channeling your inner mememe?

htismaqe 02-26-2013 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9441996)
it's not Flacco hate and I won't derail this thread but I just want everyone to relax and calm down with this whole idea "Joe Flacco is an elite NFL QB"
Nobody said he was. Get a grip.

Hootie 02-26-2013 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9442000)
Nobody said he was. Get a grip.
relax LMAO

it was someone in a different thread the other day

I'm sorry for talking about an NFL QB in a QB thread. ROFL

my fault carry on everyone

htismaqe 02-26-2013 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9442003)
relax LMAO

it was someone in a different thread the other day

I'm sorry for talking about an NFL QB in a QB thread. ROFL

my fault carry on everyone
I'm just giving you shit man.

Take a look at the formula, apply it to Flacco, and then you'll get it.

CrazyPhuD 02-26-2013 04:25 PM
Just for those who wanted to know......

Matt Cassel -27.5

unlurking 02-26-2013 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9442009)
Just for those who wanted to know......

Matt Cassel -27.5
Actually, I really don't think I did. But thanks anyway.

ROFL

Dante84 02-26-2013 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9442009)
Just for those who wanted to know......

Matt Cassel -27.5
ROFL

candyman 02-26-2013 04:37 PM
I remember that, I remember when they picked him everyone was saying how its just their luck that the best option the year they had the first pick and desperately needed a QB was Matt Stafford, who most didn't think was all that great including myself. I dont think Stafford was any higher regarded then than Geno is now, people just cant seem to get past Luck, Wilson, and RG3 and cant comprehend that a QB draft class like that is rare and probably wont happen again anytime soon.

RealSNR 02-26-2013 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9442003)
relax LMAO

it was someone in a different thread the other day

I'm sorry for talking about an NFL QB in a QB thread. ROFL

my fault carry on everyone
He's only a success on that list because of the number he generates in the formula, for crying out loud.

You're still free to think Flacco is mediocre.

Dave Lane 02-26-2013 04:59 PM
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Here are the numbers of the last 3 years based on their stats and that formula.

Geno Smith 83.1
Matt Barkley 75.4
E.J. Manuel 50.7
Tyler Wilson 19.1


Andrew Luck 68.7
RG3 74.4
Ryan Tannehill 23.65
Brandon Weeden 56.35
Russell Wilson 36.3
Nick Foles 48.3

Cam Newton 54.3
Jake Locker -17.9
Blaine Gabbert 19.7
Christian Ponder 20.3
Andy Dalton 34.6
Colin Kaepernick 28.1

Sam Bradford 74.5

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr...hybuo1_500.gif

Dave Lane 02-26-2013 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9441901)
I think a metric that should be included would be quality of opponents. He slightly accounts for that with a broad stroke of "BCS or Non-BCS." They should look at the teams they played against and calculate those opponents win/loss percentage over the course of the respective QB's starts.

Also, you could take that one step further and take into account the quality of the defenses they played against over the course of their starts.

This way it would better categorize those shitty ass QB's from USC and the rest of the lame ass PAC 10/12.

EDIT: Additional thoughts -

ALSO

You should take into account the quality of the QB's own Defense, Special Teams, Running game, and WR dropped balls. This way you know what kind of support they had.

If they have a ton of support, it might ding them. If they performed well in spite of shitty support (Geno) it would be a credit to them.
Have that on my desk by 9am sharp.


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