Connor Barth was 28 for 33 last season.

Ryan Succop was 28 for 34.

Huge difference.

Like what? We already disproved the Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Oakland losses in 2011

Oh geez.

I'll get back to you in the morning. Don't feel like digging.

Neg rep me if you want.

I believe the game situations were different.

As I stated to SNR, I'll get back tomorrow. Too tired to research.

Donger need food.

The Succop arguments are just stupid.

You don't need an elite kicker to win a SB.

Last 5 SB winning kickers:

Lawrence Tynes
Mason Crosby
John Carney/Garrett Hartley
Jeff Reed
Lawrence Tynes

Only Reed had a significantly better kicking percentage than Succop the year he won the SB.

80 percent kicker is just fine. The only reason you might lose a SB with an 80 percent kicker is because your QB is a POS.

Elite kicker? No.

Reliable under pressure? Yes.

Succop is fine for the most part. He just has a tendency to miss easy chipshots at times which can be really ****ing aggravating.

I can't think of a single pressure kick Succop has ever missed to be perfectly honest.

Succop nailed GW FGs against Pittsburgh (09), Buffalo (10) and San Diego (11) in his career.

He also made a 52-yard field goal against the Panthers last season that basically sealed a win late in the 4th.

And he's had at LEAST 4 games where the Chiefs only won because he made every kick in the game out of 4 or 5 attempts. Washington in 09, Minnesota and Green Bay in 2011, New Orleans in 2012.

He did miss a FG against the Steelers last year that would have given us a lead, but he also forced OT in that game with a late FG.

In pressure situations, he's done pretty well.

He is far from Lin Elliot.

He missed a couple this year that could have helped us win one or two more. I think the PIT game and another in KC. I considered them an addition to his resume, not a detraction. Dude was just taking one for the good of the team.

Blaming the kicker in games where the QB was surely complete dogshit is so Chiefs fans.

The SD game was a hardcore choke job final play and missed the FG

So blame the kicker when we lost the game by 18 points.

Interesting.

I don't blame Succop. He missed kicks. That's just reality, doesn't mean I hate him or blame him. He missed a couple timely kicks. I agree with your post from before. I am not out looking to remove him.

I think he missed a big one in PIT, and I also am pretty sure our QB was extra bad in that game as well. There is no doubt that the QB was SOC's biggest hero this year.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201112...ghts&tab=recap

correction it was the Raider Game

That was a blocked kick. Please.