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Chiefs get Orton (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=252883)

If this is the move that prevents us from drafting a QB in the first round, I swear to God, I will murder Pioli

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8136173)

Ah, found a link citing Clayton:

https://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/sta...92062150815744

Eh, **** him. He'll get a chance to throw to some pretty good WRs and build his stock up a hell of a lot more than he would have in Denver. Maybe he shouldn't have insisted on a re-structured contract and that Miami deal could've gone through.

Beggers can't be choosers, Kyle. We need the help at QB to see what we have on this team. Dunno what to tell ya, sport.

Thanks DJ...I was going to post the link and u already found it.

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8136190)

Orton might be good enough to take us out of contention to draft a QB in the 1st round. Well, to draft Barkley anyway.

From yesterday in the other Orton thread:

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8133490)

We're going to pick him up, and end up winning a game we shouldn't/wouldn't have, and come April someone will trade up to the spot we would have been to take Barkley.

We proceed to take the best available RT or 5-tech with the pick.

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 8136181)

I worry that he'll start and win a game or two and screw us out of draft position.

He can actually throw a forward pass and he won three less games than Tebow. He won't make much of a difference for us. I highly doubt he's gonna start this week...

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8136208)

If this is the move that prevents us from drafting a QB in the first round, I swear to God, I will murder Pioli

I'm with you on that.

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8136190)

Orton might be good enough to take us out of contention to draft a QB in the 1st round. Well, to draft Barkley anyway.

My position on that shit has never changed, but that's just me. It's stupid (and not much fun) to root for your team to suck. Period.

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8136166)

I really don't understand this continued argument. If we extend him for next year, you'll have a point. As it is, this doesn't make any difference in the draft.

Agreed.

I mean hell, worst case scenario is he somehow makes the difference in a couple of games and we win maybe 2 more than we would have. So maybe we'd move down around 6-8 spots in the draft order. At that point we'd probably have to trade up to get a guy (or give up more for a trade up we'd have done anyway). On balance, it costs us maybe a 3rd rounder more than it would have.

I'm willing to go ahead and give up an extra pick or something if it means this team actually playing football with a decent quarterback for several weeks so we'll know for certain where/how we'll need to improve next year.

Guys - 'punting' 6 games costs us massive developmental time, not to mention a significant amount of review and analysis. We can gain a lot of knowledge over these 6 games if the team is committed to doing so.

Would I rather see Stanzi? Yup, but the staff isn't going to go that route. So this is an acceptable alternative, IMO. He's also a guy that would absolutely be a viable option for a year or two while we groom a young QB, especially a project like RGIII.

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8136208)

If this is the move that prevents us from drafting a QB in the first round, I swear to God, I will murder Pioli

I will help you. You get the head though

JFC. this organization will NEVER learn.

I haven't seen him much, but I hear a lot of good things about Orton.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7840342

Orton looked like Tom Brady. And that isn't just some homer talk. He played awesome tonight. Tebow isn't at Orton's level right now.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7248544

Jay Cutler has been carried by that defense this year. In those wins he has only thrown for more than 250 yards twice. They would be 11-1 with Kyle Orton.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7109855

Orton should be in the top 10. No doubt about it.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7058378

In NFL history, only K. Warner (2000 season) has thrown for more passing yds than Broncos QB Kyle Orton (1419 yds) thru 4 games

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7003833

I mean like a top 10 QB.

1. Manning
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. Rodgers
5. Rivers
6. Favre
7. Schaub
8. Romo
9. Rapelisburger
10. Orton

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...on#post7003808

Not with the way Kyle Orton is playing. Denver will have the best QB on the field 85% of the time this year, that alone will carry us to wins.

We're cursed.

We'll never have a QB we can actually call our own.

:(

Pioli picked him up so McDaniels could chose between Cassel and Orton next year.