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DaFace

10-10-2008 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5101314)

You equate "genius" with a man whose sole claim to fame is comedic spoofs of popular songs? He is and was never talented enough to forge a career in music or comedy. So he settled somewhere in the middle. He has zero artistic merit of his own, but he's being called "genius"? I've truly heard it all.

Miles Davis, Bob Dylan, Muddy Waters, The Beatles...
That's genius.

The word genius is relative. I could make the same argument that your list is laughable compared to Einstein and Isaac Newton, for example. I'd never claim that Weird Al is a musical genius, but he's pretty far up there on the comedic genius scale.

luv	10-10-2008 01:13 PM

Don't know if it's been posted, but here's the song the parady is based on...

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vailpass

10-10-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5101102)

He's done a ton that I've loved, and that one might be his Citizen Kane.

Yes, although I would put 'Amish Paradise' up there as well.

Micjones

10-10-2008 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 5101390)

The word genius is relative.

I disagree. I just think it's used much too loosely.

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I could make the same argument that your list is laughable compared to Einstein and Isaac Newton, for example.

Different kind of genius.

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I'd never claim that Weird Al is a musical genius, but he's pretty far up there on the comedic genius scale.

I suppose if Carrot Top and Dane Cook are his comedic company.

TrickyNicky

10-10-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5101553)

Don't know if it's been posted, but here's the song the parady is based on...

I appreciate Weird Al's version even more now. Al's chorus and beat sound better IMO too.

Thig Lyfe

10-10-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5101314)

You equate "genius" with a man whose sole claim to fame is comedic spoofs of popular songs?

Some of his best songs aren't spoofs of anything. "Why Does This Always Happen To Me?" springs to mind as one of my favorite Weird Al songs, and it's 100% original.

I don't buy your argument that Weird Al "couldn't make it in music or comedy so he does this" because in reality, isn't he making it in both at once? I don't think he looks back at his career wishing he had "gone legit". This is what he was meant to do.

Weird Al, though understandably annoying to some people, is the greatest song parodist of all time. It takes a certain amount of genius to keep those song parodies funny for thirty years.

CoMoChief

10-10-2008 02:16 PM

wasn't weird al voted american's sexiest male alive at one point?

Micjones

10-10-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 5101722)

Some of his best songs aren't spoofs of anything. "Why Does This Always Happen To Me?"

He's known for parodies, not his original material.

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I don't buy your argument that Weird Al "couldn't make it in music or comedy so he does this" because in reality, isn't he making it in both at once?

What artistic merit does spoofing someone else's original musical work (with virtually the same arrangements and musical compositions) have?

I can't imagine that he wouldn't chase a serious musical career if he really did have the requisite skill set to do so. Especially at this point in his career... He's established a base. This would be the perfect jumping off point for such a career move. Why not? Because he'd never be taken seriously as an artist.

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I don't think he looks back at his career wishing he had "gone legit". This is what he was meant to do.

I tend to agree. My point is what he's done isn't worthy of being tabbed "musical genius". I think that requires artistic merit of your own.

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It takes a certain amount of genius to keep those song parodies funny for thirty years.

I suppose that depends on who you ask.
And also on how you measure the comedic value of spoofs.

I think the guy owns the song parody lane.
He's done very clever work during his long career.
I just think it's a bit ridiculous to assign the term "genius" to that.

gblowfish

10-10-2008 02:52 PM

He's this generation's version of Spike Jones.
You either get humor,
or you don't.

His polkas made up of clips from popular songs kick ass.

bobbything

10-10-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Limpdick (Post 5101168)

I can't tell you the genius behind this. It captures the sheer horribleness that is today's R&B. Uninspired lyrics, redundant beat and tune. Just talking and kind of singing at the same time. No real thought behind it.

I bet it took him longer to write that song than it did R. Kelly to write his awful, awful version.

Micjones

10-10-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 5101885)

He's this generation's version of Spike Jones.
You either get humor,
or you don't.

His polkas made up of clips from popular songs kick ass.

Humor isn't esoteric sir.
I get it.

This isn't even comedic genius.

If you think it is... You probably haven't been exposed to the greats.

bobbything

10-10-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5101758)

He's known for parodies, not his original material.

What artistic merit does spoofing someone else's original musical work (with virtually the same arrangements and musical compositions) have?

I can't imagine that he wouldn't chase a serious musical career if he really did have the requisite skill set to do so. Especially at this point in his career... He's established a base. This would be the perfect jumping off point for such a career move. Why not? Because he'd never be taken seriously as an artist.

I tend to agree. My point is what he's done isn't worthy of being tabbed "musical genius". I think that requires artistic merit of your own.

I suppose that depends on who you ask.
And also on how you measure the comedic value of spoofs.

I think the guy owns the song parody lane.
He's done very clever work during his long career.
I just think it's a bit ridiculous to assign the term "genius" to that.

With no due respect, you don't know shit from shinola, sir.

Micjones

10-10-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 5101920)

With no due respect, you don't know shit from shinola, sir.

Such the silver tongue.

I suppose when you don't have an argument to stand on you dust off an insult from the WWII era.
Fair enough.

Let's break out the Bing Crosby records while we're at it...

redbrian

10-10-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5101915)

Humor isn't esoteric sir.
I get it.

This isn't even comedic genius.

If you think it is... You probably haven't been exposed to the greats.

I too have to disagree with your opinion.....Al has the musical chops, his comedic genius rates right up with the Goons.......you don't see it, thats ok, you just lack the eye for musical and comedic talent.....

vailpass

10-10-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5101915)

Humor isn't esoteric sir.
I get it.

This isn't even comedic genius.

If you think it is... You probably haven't been exposed to the greats.

ROFL Dude, stop.

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