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Rausch 06-26-2017 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12932196)
I kind of hate that "Anonymous says (or does) XXXX" is a thing. Anonymous is a loosely-affiliated set of a bunch of "anonymous" hackers, so that phrase is basically the equivalent of "A random hacker says (or does) XXXX."

I'd be thrilled if there was evidence of this, and you never know, but adding "Anonymous" to it doesn't make it credible in any way.

Their usefulness extends as far as encouraging people to do more research into a given topic based on the possibility they may have introduced some hacked/hidden info the public didn't know about before.

That's it...

Rausch 06-26-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12932201)
"We're rare, we're first or we're ****ed..."

Pretty much.

"What if our God/s are just tourists pissing on the side of the road?"

Beef Supreme 06-26-2017 11:29 AM

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suzzer99 06-26-2017 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12932201)
I love this article

https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

The basic thesis is a hell of a hook - "We're rare, we're first or we're ****ed..."

Pretty much. The Easter Islanders cut down all their trees to build more Moai (those big face statues) - leaving them ****ed.

If people on a small island can't band together to figure out they need to conserve a valuable resource - how are a bunch of different societies on earth going to do it?

Rausch 06-26-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12932215)

Posited by the History/Hitler/Aliens channel...

DJ's left nut 06-26-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12932209)
Pretty much.

"What if our God/s are just tourists pissing on the side of the road?"

The one that made me really say "huh...now that makes a lot of sense in a horrifying sort of way" was:

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Possibility 5) There’s only one instance of higher-intelligent life—a “superpredator” civilization (like humans are here on Earth)—that is far more advanced than everyone else and keeps it that way by exterminating any intelligent civilization once they get past a certain level. This would suck. The way it might work is that it’s an inefficient use of resources to exterminate all emerging intelligences, maybe because most die out on their own. But past a certain point, the super beings make their move—because to them, an emerging intelligent species becomes like a virus as it starts to grow and spread. This theory suggests that whoever was the first in the galaxy to reach intelligence won, and now no one else has a chance. This would explain the lack of activity out there because it would keep the number of super-intelligent civilizations to just one.
And look at that on a planetary scale; it checks out. We think primates are fun because they look like us and can't use guns yet. But the absolutely millisecond that gorillas presented a true existential threat to humanity, we'd wipe those !@#$ers off the planet. And why? Because we were first, we're at the top of the heap and we're disinclined to lose that status. Since they're no real threat to us, we're all good. But the moment they demonstrate human-level reasoning, we'll get 'em gone before they put an army together.

You think we'll ever reach a point where other creatures on this planet are capable of speaking to us in our native tongues? Oh hell no - we'll wipe them out well before they advance to that stage because we're not going to let them get anywhere near our perch.

O.city 06-26-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12932201)
I love this article

https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

The basic thesis is a hell of a hook - "We're rare, we're first or we're ****ed..."

Yeah I've read that before. Still crazy to me and. It sure what I believe.

I tend to think there's a shitload abundance of superior advanced shut out there

Rausch 06-26-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12932222)
You think we'll ever reach a point where other creatures on this planet are capable of speaking to us in our native tongues? Oh hell no - we'll wipe them out well before they advance to that stage because we're not going to let them get anywhere near our perch.

The most effective ruling philosophy was already determined almost a century ago.

What if you apply "1984" to a galactic scale?

What if most of all that is exists as a natural preserve and the few than can reason are just conditioned to love big(er) brother?

This could include religion as we know it and motivate a global culture to a predetermined end.

It's an interesting thought experiment...

Bowser 06-26-2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12932222)
You think we'll ever reach a point where other creatures on this planet are capable of speaking to us in our native tongues? Oh hell no - we'll wipe them out well before they advance to that stage because we're not going to let them get anywhere near our perch.

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vailpass 06-26-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12932264)
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LMAO oh my god I need one of those!

Kiimo 06-26-2017 12:00 PM

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ShiftyEyedWaterboy 06-26-2017 12:09 PM

There's a good chance we won't last long enough to find a way to leave the solar system. We need to advance to a point where we can make something like the Alcubierre drive actually work.

Rausch 06-26-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 12932270)

This topic is truly one of religious fervor.

There is no middle ground.

Grandma Pawtucket's cow WAS abducted by the aliens and they carved ole' Bessy up.

Dr. Knowledge says there's no life anywhere else in the universe. It is sterile.

If you entertain the idea you get lumped in with Grammy Pawtucket.

If you are skeptical (meaning requiring more evidence and reluctant to jump to a conclusion) you get lumped in with Dr. Knowledge.

O.city 06-26-2017 12:26 PM

I think they've been here and or are here. If they're that advanced, they could do it without our knowledge

DJ's left nut 06-26-2017 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12932299)
This topic is truly one of religious fervor.

There is no middle ground.

Grandma Pawtucket's cow WAS abducted by the aliens and they carved ole' Bessy up.

Dr. Knowledge says there's no life anywhere else in the universe. It is sterile.

If you entertain the idea you get lumped in with Grammy Pawtucket.

If you are skeptical (meaning requiring more evidence and reluctant to jump to a conclusion) you get lumped in with Dr. Knowledge.

I am firmly in the "the human mind simply cannot grasp just how unbelievably large the scale we're operating on here is" camp. And then throw in the whole 3 dimensional thing (which the human mind has a notoriously hard time conceptualizing) and you start to understand that even if we're looking for the right things and with the right tools, the odds of us looking at the right place and at the right time are almost infinitesimally small.

When people say "Man, how hard could it actually be to find Planet 9?" and then you listen to someone smart explain EXACTLY how hard it can be and why there's a really good chance that we just never find the thing even though we can see its wake, you get just an inkling of an understanding of the void we're dealing with.

These scales are just so far beyond our comprehension that it makes me think that A) it's virtually impossible that life doesn't exist SOMEWHERE but B) it's nearly as unlikely that we'll find it or it us over any appreciable timeline.


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