Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 9805888)

hahahahah I bet it was 20 gauge! **** that!!!!

Originally Posted by lead_block (Post 9806085)

I don't know much about injectable steroids/pro-hormones so please enlighten me. Which is safer injectable or oral pro-hormones (I think all pro-hormones are oral?)

I took H-Drol 2 years ago and it didn't really do much for me, I gained probably 10-15 lbs on bench and lost it all within a couple weeks of being off..I even used Nolvadex that I had left over from my rat experiment.

I took Havoc a few months later and same shit. I haven't took anything since and am not interested in taking anything until I actually put on some natural mass. Most likely I won't consider taking anything for a few years.

I just read in this thread that pro-hormones are much worse for you and I thought it would be completely backwards cause the injectable stuff seems to be the only mass that sticks around. I have a friend that keeps taking pro-hormones and it drives me nuts cause he thinks the shit is candy.

Anyways, I'm just wanting to be more educated. I'm not gathering information, so I can find a dealer and start shooting up.

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9806099)

Typically the injectables are better since they are not alkylated, which is really hard on your liver.

Pro hormones suck because they are only PRO hormones. Why wouldn't you just take HORMONES?

What's H-Drol? Is that a new designer steroid or is that one of those crappy knock off supplements that uses variations of real steroid names to confuse unknowing teenagers? (like Winni-V, SuperClen, T2, Testobol, Decosterone, etc)

Originally Posted by lead_block (Post 9806085)

I don't know much about injectable steroids/pro-hormones so please enlighten me. Which is safer injectable or oral pro-hormones (I think all pro-hormones are oral?)

I took H-Drol 2 years ago and it didn't really do much for me, I gained probably 10-15 lbs on bench and lost it all within a couple weeks of being off..I even used Nolvadex that I had left over from my rat experiment.

I took Havoc a few months later and same shit. I haven't took anything since and am not interested in taking anything until I actually put on some natural mass. Most likely I won't consider taking anything for a few years.

I just read in this thread that pro-hormones are much worse for you and I thought it would be completely backwards cause the injectable stuff seems to be the only mass that sticks around. I have a friend that keeps taking pro-hormones and it drives me nuts cause he thinks the shit is candy.

Anyways, I'm just wanting to be more educated. I'm not gathering information, so I can find a dealer and start shooting up.

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9806099)

Typically the injectables are better since they are not alkylated, which is really hard on your liver.

Pro hormones suck because they are only PRO hormones. Why wouldn't you just take HORMONES?

What's H-Drol? Is that a new designer steroid or is that one of those crappy knock off supplements that uses variations of real steroid names to confuse unknowing teenagers? (like Winni-V, SuperClen, T2, Testobol, Decosterone, etc)

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 9806398)

I had a friend who did that. Doubled up two cycles of pro hormones at the same time taking one in the morning one in the afternoon and one at night. Got huge. Started to hurt. Got small. Now he can only eat dr approved items or it kills his kidneys. I can get you in touch with him for your friend if you want.

Originally Posted by lead_block (Post 9806085)

I don't know much about injectable steroids/pro-hormones so please enlighten me. Which is safer injectable or oral pro-hormones (I think all pro-hormones are oral?)

I took H-Drol 2 years ago and it didn't really do much for me, I gained probably 10-15 lbs on bench and lost it all within a couple weeks of being off..I even used Nolvadex that I had left over from my rat experiment.

I took Havoc a few months later and same shit. I haven't took anything since and am not interested in taking anything until I actually put on some natural mass. Most likely I won't consider taking anything for a few years.

I just read in this thread that pro-hormones are much worse for you and I thought it would be completely backwards cause the injectable stuff seems to be the only mass that sticks around. I have a friend that keeps taking pro-hormones and it drives me nuts cause he thinks the shit is candy.

Anyways, I'm just wanting to be more educated. I'm not gathering information, so I can find a dealer and start shooting up.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9806592)

You're going to lose most of what you gain. Prohormones/Steroids are great for a short term boost, but I'm more of a fan of Testosterone runs. You're friend needs to get off or he's going to do seroius damage to his liver. Most of those should be ran at 6 weeks max followed by a PCT and 3-4 month break.

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 9803335)

He can do it a whole lot easier (or at least it happens wayyyy more often regardless of ease)than some chubby fat chick walking into a bar and pulling some svelt hot dude. Im also not talking about the hottest chick, Im saying society accepts fat guys more than they accept fat chicks. You see it on TV a lot, and I hear it in the conversations of the men around me, including on this very board. "How dare that chick be fat", "OMG she's 150lbs!!! What a cow!!!" yet, a lot of the time, the dude is just as many LBS overweight, belly hanging but thats more acceptable. Also, Sean Connery was 70 when he won that, and no woman has won it over the age of 40 (that I can think of). And while, you call that extreme, it is one of the reasons we believe it to be ok for guys to be less than perfect looks wise, weight wise, then women. Media media media teaches us froma very young age, that looks on a woman are important, while they teach men other things are important. Not saying men dont have pressures because of what society expects from them, but women are expected to be beautiful, and thin, and if they arent, theyre worthless cows.

Originally Posted by lead_block (Post 9806795)

Yeah, I regret what I even took and knowing they're as dangerous as test should help me in convincing him to stop. I ran the H-Drol and Havoc cycles with him but nothing since. He has done a number of cycles since and I refuse to participate which makes him cool it a bit. College is a time for experimenting and I took the pro-hormone plunge, so I don't feel too guilty.

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9806810)

Lotta truth in what you say but to quote Richard Pryor...

"Women have all the pussy and half the money. And they're out to get the other half of the money".