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BossChief 03-06-2013 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 9469962)
95% of the reports are saying the 34th pick + a 2nd or 3rd next year

So we have a ballpark idea of the compensation
Maybe that's to try and maintain value for the first overall pick...also, John Clayton said it was a swap of second round picks and then a conditional pick next year.

When multiple highly respected guys report different things about the same move, it means there has been no confirmation.

Why would they want it to stay hush hush unless there was a secret they wanted to keep?

Rasputin 03-06-2013 08:49 AM
One of the biggest complaints from fans this franchise may address this offseason is the lack of or no QB competition for the last 100 years. That is if they draft Geno Smith we could see a real QB battle unfold and that would be cool as ****. They may have traded for Alex Smith and I hate that but with them retaining Brandon Albert another year they open the option to still take QB at number 1 pick.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-06-2013 08:51 AM
Geno is the only pick that makes sense at 1-1.

Wildcat2005 03-06-2013 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9469987)
Maybe that's to try and maintain value for the first overall pick...also, John Clayton said it was a swap of second round picks and then a conditional pick next year.

When multiple highly respected guys report different things about the same move, it means there has been no confirmation.

Why would they want it to stay hush hush unless there was a secret they wanted to keep?
I thought Clayton said that and then rectracted it?

Guys like Glazer and Schefter are legit IMO, and both said 34th + 2nd or 3rd next year
Or Schefter actually said "34th + similar pick next year"

Outside of Clayton I havent seen any "swap 2nds" reports

If the premise of you argument hinges on Schefter and Glazer being wrong, I think it is a longshot at best

Unless you think that they still would draft a qb at 1.1 after giving up the 34th + a 2nd or 3rd next year for one?

BossChief 03-06-2013 09:27 AM
I didn't see John Clayton retract it.

Wildcat2005 03-06-2013 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9470070)
I didn't see John Clayton retract it.
I could of swore I read on here he rectracted it
I asked it because I was not sure but thought I read it on here he did

Regardless ESPN, the station he reports his info to, is saying like everyone else it was the 34th + a future 2nd or 3rd

I dont think the same guy who was adament Shanahan was coming to KC is the one to be trusted when everyone else is saying something different

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-06-2013 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9470000)
Geno is the only pick that makes sense at 1-1.
This. And all the Chief Fan ankle-yapping in the world does NOT change that salient fact.
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RealSNR 03-06-2013 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 9466821)
They gave up all of that for Griffin, to be the future of the franchise
Cousins was just a value 4th round pick for competition
The redskins did not give up premium picks for a stopgap

Why would a team with the worst record in the league give up multiple 2nd round picks(or a 2nd and 3rd) for a 1 year stopgap player?

How is 1 year of Alex Smith worth the 34th overal pick in the draft + a 2nd or 3rd rounder? Especially for a team that is more than a qb away from being a contender

I just highly highly doubt this is the strategy used by the Chiefs FO
We are not talking about a hall of famer at the end of his career trying to make one more run ala Favre and Manning
Just seems like way too much compensation given up for a player to then turn around and draft his replacement
The point is to pool together all the resources we have to find that great QB, knowing that if Alex Smith does his job properly this year, the Chiefs won't be in any kind of position to draft one of the top QBs in next year's draft.

Alex has got to be replaced at some point. Either that, or he needs to crawl up a tree, shit out and envelop himself in a chrysalis, and come out a few weeks later transformed into a beautiful magical franchise QB butterfly.

Rasputin 03-06-2013 12:08 PM
Something to remember is that the Packers did draft Aaron Rodgers when they had Brett Fafavre as starting QB. That is something Dorsey has mentioned during his opening press conference with us. This is very doable and makes Alex Smiff as a stop gap QB. I can live with it then.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-06-2013 12:15 PM
That's true Tattoo, but Favre was alot older and they didn't just deal several quality picks to boot.

I want this to happen and it makes perfect sense to me, but the odds are very low of them thinking along the same lines.

Wildcat2005 03-06-2013 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9470441)
The point is to pool together all the resources we have to find that great QB, knowing that if Alex Smith does his job properly this year, the Chiefs won't be in any kind of position to draft one of the top QBs in next year's draft.

Alex has got to be replaced at some point. Either that, or he needs to crawl up a tree, shit out and envelop himself in a chrysalis, and come out a few weeks later transformed into a beautiful magical franchise QB butterfly.
Then just draft the qb and keep the premium picks to build around him

Im sure Geno Smith or whoever would rather have someone like a Terrance Williams out of Baylor to throw to for the next decade than a one year internship under Alex Smith

Is Andy Reid unable to cater an offense to a rookie?
If he really is the qb guru then surely he can adjust the playcalling and game planning to slowly bring the guy along without having him get too overwhelmed

As you see in today's NFL rookie qbs can have success, they don't have to be redshirted anymore

These draft picks the Chiefs are giving up are potential 10+ year starters
This is just way too much compensation for a nonelite player for me to think he is only viewed as a stop gap

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-06-2013 01:13 PM
I'm looking forward to watching Geno hit Bowe in stride, and watching his YAC stack up to the moon. Excitement is back in KC!
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Pablo 03-06-2013 01:54 PM
The first two pages were awesome.

Dane, don't ever change. Just kept plugging away and moving the goalposts.

LMAO


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